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Chasstev365

(7,798 posts)
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:03 AM Aug 2025

One of the things about Trump that pisses me off the most:

Other than Ronald Reagan, it astounds me how much Trump can get away with lying. It not just little things; he is literally a pathological liar, who spews shit that is demonstratively false on a daily basis.

We know why the media and Congressional Republicans don't call him out to his face, and even when Democrats do in the media they are largely ignored. By how can a significant percentage of the American public still believe the lies that they would not accept from a junior high student?

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One of the things about Trump that pisses me off the most: (Original Post) Chasstev365 Aug 2025 OP
The power of the Magic R aids republican voters, Emile Aug 2025 #1
His voters don't care newdeal2 Aug 2025 #2
Donnie didn't emerge out of the blue. This is after more than 4 decades of propaganda unblock Aug 2025 #3
You nailed it Ohioboy Aug 2025 #5
It seems an important factor to the success of their efforts over the last 40 years has been... Ol Janx Spirit Aug 2025 #13
And much of the time, it is obvious that PatSeg Aug 2025 #4
100% Mr.Bee Aug 2025 #6
Maybe this will help you make it make sense... littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #7
Anything to OWN THE LIBS or whatever phrase is abused to gaslight them to vote their way? Brainfodder Aug 2025 #8
He validates their victimhood fantasies Orrex Aug 2025 #9
Well said! Chasstev365 Aug 2025 #10
Very simple answer. traveler50 Aug 2025 #11
Its all whataboutism to them Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #12

Emile

(42,289 posts)
1. The power of the Magic R aids republican voters,
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:22 AM
Aug 2025

to lose any common sense that they may have.

newdeal2

(5,411 posts)
2. His voters don't care
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:25 AM
Aug 2025

Some brush it off as just him boasting or kidding around or owning the libs. Others believe his lies because there is literally an entire RW echo chamber beyond MSM that uses the same talking points. That is the harder problem to solve.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
3. Donnie didn't emerge out of the blue. This is after more than 4 decades of propaganda
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:13 AM
Aug 2025

The right wing took over AM radio, then created foxnews, and got churches in on the act.

They consistently demonized democrats, mainly based on abortion and accusations of socialism. Of course, they lied relentlessly to achieve this, ignoring the difference between the ethics of abortion and the legalization of abortion, and insisting that any government program that helped "others" was socialism. And of course, they had tons of bigotry, though in the early days it was more "coded" and "dog whistled" than it is today.

They branded the Republican Party as the only patriotic party and democrats as unamerican. They did this to the point it became a matter of identity and faith that republican meant good and democrat meant evil.

With more than a generation steeped in this nonsense, only then could someone like Donnie come along and get away with his lies. His supporters see him as a borderline savior, so they don't care about literally anything bad he says or does (they'll even get over the Epstein thing soon enough) because to them, he's a powerful leader on the side of good and he's fighting against the side of evil and they will allow him anything he wants because to them, they're basically in a holy way against democrats, abortion, socialism, etc., which a far the greater evil in their mind.

They're simply not equipped to identify an evil person on their side. They can't overcome decades of partisan training. They literally think they'd be siding with Satan if they criticize Donnie.

Ohioboy

(3,892 posts)
5. You nailed it
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:16 AM
Aug 2025

The lies and distortions that preceded Trump have a lot to do with our situation.

Trump heard all those lies and knows how to make them familiar to MAGA.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,012 posts)
13. It seems an important factor to the success of their efforts over the last 40 years has been...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:13 PM
Aug 2025

...the particular brand of conservative religion that so many--especially rural Republicans--have been steeped in.

In their do-as-you're-told and don't-ask-questions world, it is not a long walk to join a political cult. Believing in lies is just part of the curriculum--as is the fear of not believing in them.

In their world, the story of Abraham binding his son Isaac to an alter for sacrifice in order to prove his faith is something to be heralded and not hidden. When you teach your children that it is reasonable for a deity to ask you to kill your own children as a profession of faith, you are planting the seeds for all sorts of other abuses being normal in their young minds.

And on the other side of that equation: believing that there is a deity that will punish your every sin means that when bad behavior goes unpunished it must be acceptable to said deity. Sure, there may be punishment in the afterlife, but the belief that anyone can ask for forgiveness at any time and be forgiven by a merciful god basically nullifies that fear.

Reason and logic have very difficult times climbing the walls of that fort....

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
4. And much of the time, it is obvious that
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:08 AM
Aug 2025

he is just making stuff up as he goes. It is like watching an eight year old trying to cover his butt with random nonsensical lies.

littlemissmartypants

(33,579 posts)
7. Maybe this will help you make it make sense...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:30 AM
Aug 2025
Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior


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Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
8. Anything to OWN THE LIBS or whatever phrase is abused to gaslight them to vote their way?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:39 AM
Aug 2025
Help Leaders Lead Again should be on BLUE HATS?

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
9. He validates their victimhood fantasies
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:41 AM
Aug 2025

He glorifies their ignorance and praises their bigotry & racism. For these reasons, his kkkultists will overlook every lie and forgive every rape, and they’ll continue to worship him until the last of them has died.

traveler50

(21 posts)
11. Very simple answer.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:49 AM
Aug 2025

Corporate media is owned by Republicans. Imagine Biden doing any of what Trump has done.

 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
12. Its all whataboutism to them
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:55 AM
Aug 2025

It is Hillary/Biden/Obama have a cult, and they have sex with children in the basement of an ice cream shop. It is part of why they put out the constant conspiracies, because they need their supporters to think a Democrat is just as bad.

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