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applegrove

(133,181 posts)
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 04:48 PM Aug 2025

The Myth on non-citizens voting:

GOP lawmakers have used the threat of noncitizen voting to justify harsh voting restrictions, claiming noncitizens are illegally swinging elections.

But investigations across the country unanimously concluded one thing: noncitizen voting is a nonissue.

Democracy Docket (@democracydocket.com) 2025-08-07T16:09:08.753Z
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The Myth on non-citizens voting: (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2025 OP
The GOP is delusional wendyb-NC Aug 2025 #1
When there are not actual enemies, you have to invent them. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #2
No, they're not. This is deliberate lying to kill trust in elections. LearnedHand Aug 2025 #3
Typical lies, distraction and othering TheProle Aug 2025 #4
Chinese student to face criminal charges for voting in Michigan. Ballot will apparently count MichMan Aug 2025 #5

TheProle

(4,122 posts)
4. Typical lies, distraction and othering
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:13 PM
Aug 2025

from the BBC (feast your eyes on the last paragraph; 77 in 24 years, according to Republicans' own idols):

What evidence is there that illegal immigrants vote?

A number of studies, both from conservative and left-leaning organisations, suggest instances of illegal immigrants voting in US federal elections are very rare.

One by the Brennan Center for Justice interviewed 44 election officials who worked across 12 states during the 2016 election.

It found that out of 23.5 million votes counted in these states, an estimated 30 suspected incidents of non-citizens voting were referred for further investigation.

That’s about 0.0001% of all votes cast.

An analysis of a database which collected election fraud cases between 1999 and 2023 by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative research group, found 77 instances of non-citizens voting.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yj98grr5lo

MichMan

(17,421 posts)
5. Chinese student to face criminal charges for voting in Michigan. Ballot will apparently count
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:40 PM
Aug 2025
Ann Arbor — A University of Michigan student who is from China and not a U.S. citizen allegedly voted Sunday in Ann Arbor and is being charged with two crimes, six days before a pivotal presidential election.

The 19-year-old from China was legally present in the United States but not a citizen, which meant he couldn't legally cast a ballot, according to information from the Michigan Secretary of State's office. He registered to vote on Sunday using his UM student identification and other documentation establishing residency in Ann Arbor, signed a document identifying himself as a U.S. citizen and his ballot was entered into a tabulator, according to the Secretary of State's office.

Later, the UM student voter contacted the local clerk's office, asking if he could somehow get his ballot back, according to Benson's office.

The student's ballot is expected to count in the upcoming election — although it was illegally cast — because there is no way for election officials to retrieve it once it's been put through a tabulator, according to two sources familiar with Michigan election laws. The setup is meant to prevent ballots from being tracked back to an individual voter.


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/chinese-university-of-michigan-college-student-voted-presidential-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/
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