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So he is ordering a fake census (Original Post) orangecrush Aug 2025 OP
Hmmmm....that might hurt Texas Bettie Aug 2025 #1
They will get exceptions gab13by13 Aug 2025 #2
I keep forgetting that the Bettie Aug 2025 #3
Yeah, these will be completely fake numbers Johnny2X2X Aug 2025 #6
Far from a done deal Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #4
Nah, it will be cheap Johnny2X2X Aug 2025 #7
Don't fall for the mythology Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #8
Besides being unconstitutional, A Census before the midterms would be logistically impossible. Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #5
I think it's about cutting the seats in Blue states with false numbers... mitch96 Aug 2025 #9
Democrats in red states like Texas and Florida should boycott this fake census. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #10

gab13by13

(32,788 posts)
2. They will get exceptions
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:02 AM
Aug 2025

just like the Big Farms are allowed to hire undocumented workers.

Bettie

(19,878 posts)
3. I keep forgetting that the
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:03 AM
Aug 2025

corruption is out in the open now, they don't even try to hide it anymore.

Johnny2X2X

(24,438 posts)
6. Yeah, these will be completely fake numbers
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 11:55 AM
Aug 2025

They're going to count in secret and presto, New York and California lost 20 million people and 15 EVs while Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and South Carolina gained 15 EVs. It's going to be blatant on purpose, because the purpose is to let the blue states know that we no longer live in a Democracy.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,082 posts)
4. Far from a done deal
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:04 AM
Aug 2025

A Census costs billions, and takes hundreds of thousands of temporary workers to complete.

The courts and congress will have something to say about that.

Even if started today, the census results wouldn’t be ready to report until after the midterms, and making changes to Electoral votes and congressional seats before 2028 would still be a stretch.

Johnny2X2X

(24,438 posts)
7. Nah, it will be cheap
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 11:59 AM
Aug 2025

Just Stephen Miller and a few others in a room with a spread sheet. New EV count-
CA- 12
NY- 8
MA- 4
CT- 3
NJ-4
MS-19
AL- 17
SC- 21
TX-60
OK- 22
etc. etc.

Who's going to stop them?

Fiendish Thingy

(24,082 posts)
8. Don't fall for the mythology
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 01:48 PM
Aug 2025

Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless.

An analysis on Daily Kos today suggests that, if somehow Trump’s scheme succeeds, and a new census is completed not counting the undocumented, the GOP stands to lose seats.

Wiz Imp

(10,422 posts)
5. Besides being unconstitutional, A Census before the midterms would be logistically impossible.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 11:49 AM
Aug 2025

mitch96

(15,876 posts)
9. I think it's about cutting the seats in Blue states with false numbers...
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 02:07 PM
Aug 2025

From the google machine...
"At the conclusion of each census, the results are used to calculate the number of House memberships to which each state is entitled

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LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
10. Democrats in red states like Texas and Florida should boycott this fake census.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 02:11 PM
Aug 2025

If all the Democrats in Texas boycotted the census, the population of Texas would go down by 40% and we would lose 10-15 electoral votes.

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