Hegseth Threatens Another Civil War to Defend 'Proud' Confederate History

[Zorro]

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has vowed not to back down from celebrating America’s “proud” Confederate history.

“We recognize our history,” Hegseth told Fox News host Will Cain on Thursday. “We don’t erase it. We don’t follow the woke lemmings off the cliff that want to tear down statues… We’re proud of our history.”

Hegseth was defending the decision to restore a Confederate monument in Arlington National Cemetery that critics say whitewashes the history of slavery in America.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the “Reconciliation Monument,” a Confederate memorial criticized for depicting a sanitized view of slavery, will be returned to Arlington National Cemetery.
Shortly after rebuking those who want to remove Confederate symbols, Hegseth made it clear that he is willing to do whatever it takes to defeat his opposition.

“Our job is to ensure our enemies know exactly what we will do to them if they threaten us up to and including total war,” he said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hegseth-threatens-another-civil-war-to-defend-proud-confederate-history/

Republicans really are jonesing to start a second civil war here.

[SheltieLover]

1. Only repukes would consider racists, traitors, & losers as "proud"

[Duncanpup]

52. Degeneracy Sheltie.

Fucking white guys who feel threatened by truth. And by the way i myself am an old white dude and i as all of us despise these people.

[Permanut]

61. Another old white dude here..

Amen.

[SheltieLover]

65. Yup.

Privikeged, entitled assholes, Dunc.

[Hey Joe]

67. Absolutely Dunc

As another older white guy I am continuously flabbergasted by white men who are obsessed with their whiteness and/or their manhood to the point that everything seems threatening to them and their place in the world.
These immature manboys constantly need to wave their imagined superiority all over the place, drawing attention to their pathetic inadequacy.

[icnorth]

79. Seldom post, but I still hang around and check in often as a silent observer, just to keep up.

Being another old white dude with over 80 circles around the sun, habitating north of the 45th, I wandered over from the Smirking Chimp back in 04, so it's been awhile. Keep the faith, we're pulling for you good guys and girls, and we can separate pretty quickly quality oats compared to those that have already been through the horse...

[kysrsoze]

2. "We recognize our history. We don't erase it... " yeah, unless it involves brown people, women, gay people, etc.

Fuck that cracker.

[Botany]

3. Hog's Breath, "We are proud of our Confederate History."

[MiHale]

13. Hegseth would be proud of that picture...

His only regret…he didn’t do it.

[COL Mustard]

56. He wouldn't do it.

He’d order someone else to do it, but he wouldn’t dirty his hands by doing it himself.

[North Coast Lawyer]

68. Sadly they are proud of this.

When these folks talk about freedom and 'their way of life" they mean the freedom to hate and the act upon that hate.

[electric_blue68]

88. Oh, I've seen That photo, or one like it

[Hekate]

89. As far back as high school, before the RW decided the whole country needed "protecting" from truth...

Yes, there it was.

[GAtomboy]

95. At this point...

I’m surprised these degenerates don’t start preaching these images were created by AI - fake news. 🤬🤦🏼‍♀️

[Autumn]

4. Drunken loser supports losers and has pride in those fucking losers

[Initech]

18. Worst defense secretrary in United States history!

[JT45242]

5. Our enemies in the Confederacy should have all been hanged...

They were losers in rebellion. That makes them volunteers for the noose.

[Nigrum Cattus]

53. 100%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tecumseh_Sherman

[LastDemocratInSC]

92. Many officers on both sides attended West Point together.

I think their relationships with each other affected the decisions to not hang the Southern traitors.

[underpants]

6. Albert Pike. Indian recruiter. Charged with Treason by the CSA. Klan's "Chief Judicial Officer"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike

[calimary]

7. Oh great.

[keep_left]

8. There was a post yesterday about this as well. Here's...

...my take from that discussion.

If they were so concerned about the "erasure of history", Hegseth and his like-minded followers would be advocating for these various and sundry Confederate monuments to be placed in a museum--which is where they belong. But they're far too preoccupied fighting their all-culture-war-all-the-time campaign for such an idea to even cross their minds!

https://democraticunderground.com/100220543964#post2

[PSPS]

9. Sounds about right

Let's face it. Trump has transformed the GOP into the confederacy.

[brush]

10. A racst, drunkard rapist threatens civil war to keep monuments to traitor losers.

Just what we need.

[Ping Tung]

11. He's "proud" of our history of conquest, theft, slavery, misogyny, aggression. genocide.

fraud,, lies, and stupidity? And he threatens to kill people to protect our reputation?

"Merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherence of our own nightly dreams".

Thomas Jefferson

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

12. Republicans, totally for the "Free Market", except when it came to buying/selling White folks!

[QED]

14. He's such an adolescent.

A preening greaser of an adolescent touting what he thinks is masculinity.

[maxsolomon]

15. Those monuments were imposed on the US by racist revisionists.

Woke Lemmings my ass. Tearing them down is what the MAJORITY want.

We also want Stone Mountain scraped clean.

[IronLionZion]

16. These people erase parts of history they don't like, from books and schools

while glorifying a false history. Statues are for honoring someone, not for history. There are reasons why the "never forget" types don't put up statues for Bin Laden or Hitler.

[Initech]

17. Wouldn't it be easier to just give these lunatics a one way trip to Mars on a Space X rocket?

And may they never come back!

[surfered]

19. My thoughts

The people who waved this flag



Declared war on the people who waved this flag

[OldBaldy1701E]

96. AND LOST!

Sorry, you don't get to talk about 'pride' when your side lost the entire thing and were forced to surrender in disgrace.

That is not pride. That is delusion with a healthy dose of narcissism.

I mean, let's face it. That dude would not know a real man if one came up and kissed him on the mouth.

Because a real man is one who is comfortable with themselves and their 'image'. They don't make a career out of trying to convince people that they are 'manly'.

That is what insecure children do.

[Martin Eden]

20. Republicans are bringing back the fascism the USA defeated in 1945

Makes sense they're bringing back the Confederacy the USA defeated in 1865.

[PatrickforB]

21. Hitler tried 'total war.' Didn't work for him or for Germany or for the 60 million killed over the course of WWII. n/t

[Demovictory9]

22. "white race, and that race alone, shall govern this country. It is the only one that is fit to govern, and it is the onl

The National Park Service announced earlier this week that it is bringing back a statue of Confederate Army Gen. Albert Pike, who once wrote that the “white race, and that race alone, shall govern this country. It is the only one that is fit to govern, and it is the only one that shall.”

[Dave Bowman]

29. Yeah, well the "white race" has done a swell job at governing lately.

[Jimvanhise]

23. HISTORY? LET'S GIVE THEM HISTORY

Let's put up statues showing the way slaves were actually treated. The articles of Confederacy signed by every state at the time defended the right to own slaves. That's history. During the Civil War, if any northern soldier prisoners were taken who were black, they were executed as being traitors to the South. There was also a southern military prison in Georgia where prisoners were brutally mistreated and the men who ran it were put on trial after the Civil War. Let's create a monument to the horrors of Andersonville prison. Is Hegseth proud of that history?

[Bayard]

40. He has never opened a history book,

And if he did, he'd be completely in agreement with the Confederacy. So in answer to your question--yes, he is proud of that history. This admin thinks our black population should be back in slavery, working the fields, since they are depleting all brown migrant workers by deportation. I think the Obamas picking cotton is a trump fantasy.

Confederates were traitors to the United States. They still are, from the morons who fly Confederate flags from their trucks around here, to people like Hogsbreath.

[NoMoreRepugs]

24. Amazing to me that so many in the US support morons being in charge.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

35. Birds of a feather....

[Walleye]

26. Traitor!

[Dave Bowman]

27. Proud of what? Being monsters, traitors and losers?

[Orrex]

28. Was he drunk?

[MyOwnPeace]

46. Only if his eyes were open........

[SheltieLover]

94. Is he ever not drunk?

[Omnipresent]

30. So is he a democrat or republican?

I keep hearing from magas that Democratic party was for slavery and republicans were against it.
Since the north won, shouldn’t he fighting to keep those monuments in storage?

[Omnipresent]

57. My girlfriends maga father for one, thinks he's clever to say this...

Knowing I’m a Democrat. It’s part of their ignorance that both parties evolved to different political stances in the 160 years since reconstruction.
I just like throwing this issue back in their faces after try to defend the confederacy in any way.

One of my ancestors was in the army and fought for the US from Illinois, and yes he was a Republican like many of my early ancestors.
I am proud that they transitioned away from the Republican party,

[randr]

31. Doesn't he know he is in charge of the winning team?

[VanceFan]

32. Hegseth the Nazi

"Totaler Krieg", the same words used by Goebbels in his Sportspalast speech.

[Crowman2009]

33. There's not much history to a short-lived corrupt slave-funded country.

I' ve had pets that lived longer than the Confederacy.

[lonely bird]

97. Hell

Nirvana lasted longer

[marble falls]

34. Let's hear what he's got to say in 2029. When he goes to work at whatever it is Blackwater is calling itself.

[Sailingdiver]

37. "Our job is to ensure our enemies know exactly what we will do to them"

According to the cult we'll memorialize the enemy and put up statues of them.

How much worse will it get? That's a questions, not a challenge.

[Geechie]

38. Hi, I'm Pete Hogsbreath

I was raised in Minnesota & went to Princeton.. but yeeehaaah! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!

[barbtries]

39. they will lose.

AGAIN.

[Exp]

41. He is the ignorant Trump Base. I'd expect nothing less even if he was a German defending Hitler. nt

[Martin68]

42. No wonder that idolizes the confederacy. They are traitor to their own country, and are willing to fight a second civil

if they think they can win this time. But this one is not on the battlefield, but behind the scenes where they nefariously warp and destroy every principle embedded in our hallowed Constitution to cheat their way into a totalitarian dictatorship.

[LeftinOH]

43. "We're proud of our Confederate history..but also the Confederates were Democrats"

..as they always like to point out. Make it make sense.

[Kid Berwyn]

44. Triple Sec Def reportedly was born in Minnesota.

Traitors know no borders nor much of anything else.

[dflprincess]

55. He grew up here

And apparently knows nothing about the 1st Minnesota Infantry's history.

He is a disgrace to the state, the country, and the uniform he wore.

[Crowman2009]

91. So Hegseth is the Kid Rock of Minnesota?

By that I mean they are both from states with no Confederate regiments during the civil war.

On a side note, I had a bunch of ancestors who volunteered in the civil war, all of whom were on the Union side. But pretty much the vast majority were in New York and Massachusetts regiments. Only one was from Michigan where I'm originally from. But took part in about ten battles in a course of three years and survived.

[Warpy]

45. This time, if they take up arms against the US military, let them go

Maybe they'll rise to the challenge and maybe they'll devolve into a bunch of little kingdoms fighting each other, each with its separate currency, laws, and bureaucracy.

They just can't seem to understand the original colonies abandoned that form of non government when some of the colonies were on the brink of war with each other. That's why we got the constitution.

The worst thing you can do to people like this is give them exactly what they've been squalling for since they lost the Civil War.

(I lived there growing up. Loved the food, southerners actually season things. Hated the culture)

[FoggyLake]

47. Sounds like that's the trajectory for ICE to be their heavily armed militia...

which will be used against Americans.

[JustAnotherGen]

48. So are 5 Black gun clubs in NJ

And if it is citizens against citizens?

We are in much better shape.

This is all he has got to get me off the Epstein Files?

[twodogsbarking]

49. Just get the fuck out of our country. You lost. Suck it up. You were the bad guys. Losers. Traitors.

[Puppyjive]

50. We are not proud

We have a very dark past.

[Baitball Blogger]

51. The "woke" lemmings have more right to define the future of America than

the people who lost the Civil War.

[hadEnuf]

54. "Our enemies?" Who might that be Mr. Secretary? The United States of America?

The Confederacy LOST the civil war that they started. They are owed NOTHING. The Confederacy does not legitimately or legally exist anywhere in these United States. It appears that you are aiding and abetting a new Confederate revolt against this country. That makes you guilty of TREASON.

You should immediately be removed as Secretary of Defense, arrested and put on trial for fomenting insurrection and treason against the United States.

This has gone far enough.

[Ray Bruns]

58. The only confederate flag that mattered.

[Gimpyknee]

59. OMG! Yet more projection from this asswipe.

[4catsmom]

60. maybe he doesn't know the south lost

maybe he was drunk on the day in high school history class

[EndlessWire]

62. He's the Secretary of Defense

and this is what he says:

“Our job is to ensure our enemies know exactly what we will do to them if they threaten us up to and including total war,” he said.

So, now we are the enemy. Okay, I accept that. He and his ilk are my enemy. Two can play the game. I think he should realize that there are far more of us than them, and the ONLY way he can win the game is by calling out the military and ordering them to kill us. He doesn't have enough trained soldiers to take anybody down. The same complaints they had which elected rump (maybe) will be their downfall in a straight up armed conflict. They only want someone else to deliver the work of the nation.

He's not exactly mincing words here. He is telling us that we are the enemy. His enemy. An enemy worthy of being shot because we are not proud of our slave history. He, apparently, is proud of the history. He's proud of it. Well, I'm not his damned slave, and neither are any of you. We the People will fight for our country. WE WILL FIGHT.

It's easy to see that the Orange Pedo has lost control of his cabinet. These people are putting words in his mouth that he can't live up to, for sure. Does rumpy deserve the Nobel Peace Prize when he is setting up for an armed conflict in his own country? I hardly think so.

Stick together, People. We will fight off fascism, and a lot of these people will be in a jail cell.

[appleannie1]

63. Guess they want to proudly lose another war. GREAT mentality. Making it again.

[Mblaze]

64. So he's proud that Southerners attacked the US

To defend the right to hold slaves. Alrighty then.

[Permanut]

66. From August 2017, Charlottesville, Virginia..

Mango Mussolini stated that there were "...fine people on both sides."

[Lucky Luciano]

69. The confederates should have gotten the Appian Way treatment

[Hornedfrog2000]

70. He will be one of many first in line

We will need dozens of guillotines.

[Lem1951]

71. Defend the Confederacy??????

I thought we defeated it a long time ago!!!

[bluestarone]

72. Never, in my life did have any thoughts of fighting the civil war, and WW2 again.

NEVER. WTF?

[lastlib]

73. Bring it on, Kegbreath. n/t

If you're so big on preserving "history," explain to us WHY your BOSS took down the Smithsonian display on his TWO impeachments!

[Racygrandma]

74. My Great Uncle was in Sherman's march on Georgia

He’s buried in Dickinson county KS. My mom was showing me his gravestone it has a map of the march on the stone. I asked Mom what was it like, she just hung her head and said “they said it was so bloody”. So if they knew the real history.

[Lucky Luciano]

86. The more I see of the modern confederacy, the more it seems...

…that they deserved much worse. The march to sea should have covered all the southern shitheads.

[Blue Ozarks]

75. He's lying. They do erase it

Just last week the Smithsonian museum removed an exhibit about two trump impeachments, upon threat of funding loss.

Black and Native American history began to be erased soon after Grabber’s second term began.

He’s reversed the renaming of monuments annd military installations…..
and just last week claimed the DC based baseball team should go back to calling their team the Redskins.

[Skittles]

77. CORRECT

and there is a HUGE difference between "recognizing history" and CELBRATING it

[Skittles]

76. a REPUKE saying WE DON'T ERASE HISTORY

[multigraincracker]

78. Let's honor a real Civil War hero.

Change the name of ft Steward to for William Tecumseh Sherman.

[Quanto Magnus]

80. So he's saying he's proud of slavery....

Right up their alley....

[AntiFascist]

81. "Ours enemies," as far as KKKegsbreath is concerned, include practically half of the American population...

The true domestic enemies are those who act against the Constitution. Hegseth is high on this enemies list.

[Turbineguy]

82. Hegseth fought the wrong people

he should have been shooting Americans. He'd have been much happier.

[TygrBright]

83. Remind me again what they're "proud" of? Being racists? Traitors? Losers? n/t

[OMGWTF]

84. We need to start calling Rethuglicans the "Confederates."

People who fly both the US and Confederate flags need to pick a fking side. You can't have it both ways.

[grockri]

85. Bring it on Bitch!!!!!

[mdbl]

87. More treason from the Dump administration

[Jack Valentino]

90. Could someone please inform Pete Hegseth that he works for the UNION government,

that Confederates were traitors to that government,
that many of these Confederate military officers BROKE THEIR PREVIOUS OATHS
to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and were
thus guilty of actual "treason", besides fighting to protect human slavery,
and that the actual founders and founding principles of his own alleged political party
were what these rebels were fighting against....
and thus there is nothing to be 'proud of' about the so-called 'Confederate states',
or any of their soldiers who fired upon the flag of
the United States of America.

'Thank you for your attention to this matter'.

[Aussie105]

93. Strange!

Those who died defending slavery are, I'm sure, proud that they chose that to be the 'Hill to Die On'.
It was a noble cause, one worth fighting for one worth dying for, after all.

/mucho sarcasm!

Strange thing is . . . aren't Republicans unwinding the current form of slavery, undocumented immigrants from south of the border?

Still waiting to hear who will replace all those farm laborers no longer working the fields, but the silence on that topic is deafening!

[malthaussen]

98. Does he even know what country he putatively works for?

I am reminded of an old "Combat" episode when a Southern redneck joined the squad. He kept making cracks about "The Yankee Army," until a fed-up Sergeant Saunders snapped "It's not the Yankee Army, it's the United States Army. And you're part of it."

-- Mal