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Innocent men women and children as ICE agents is only about undocumented immigrants?
Clearly this authoritarian regime, not my words, Rachel Maddows, is preparing a nationwide maga army to deal with us when the time comes.
They also have and will use our military but it will be much easier if they have 75 million maga assholes all with multiple weapons.
unblock
(56,220 posts)The right wing has money, the trifecta, a number of key states, the media, most of social media, billionaires willing to spend to help them, and a long-term plan going back decades.
They are consolidating power by further intimidating opposition. Universities, holdout parts of the media, opposition politics, businesses. They are all being threatened, sued, prosecuted, extorted, blackmailed, or otherwise punished through selected tariffs, delayed or denied regulatory approvals, etc.
And yes, ICE is now larger than the FBI, ATF, DEA, U.S. Marshals Service, and Bureau of Prisons, at least in terms of funding.
It should be seen as a military entity, charged with ethnic cleansing, and why would they stop at people who seem Hispanic?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-funding-world-militaries-b2790466.html
"It surpasses the annual military budgets of Iran, Turkey, Spain, Mexico, Iran, and at least 23 countries in the top 40 military spenders, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.
ICEs new annual budget places the federal agency among the top 20 most well-funded militaries in the world, sitting between Canada, which spent roughly $29.3 billion in 2024, and Turkey, which spent $25 billion last year."
Eliot Rosewater
(34,286 posts)Better figure out right now that they need to exercise their second amendment right, their neighbors are going to come after them, this we know.
And for those who think its a ridiculous suggestion, I am speechless.
unblock
(56,220 posts)We are exploring options. My daughter has already started the process to get, ironically, Austrian citizenship. Yes, the easiest path to citizenship to escape fascism is in the land my grandparents had to flee because of fascism.
While people are obsessing over Netanyahu's stupid overreach in Gaza, we are living the reality of what it means to be Jewish -- having to flee from one place to the next because we are never welcome for too long....
Eliot Rosewater
(34,286 posts)Is it extremely difficult to get citizenship there to move there like it is Canada?
Qutzupalotl
(15,833 posts)unblock
(56,220 posts)of holocaust victims & survivors.
My mother and her parents survived the holocaust, so my daughter and I qualify. My wife doesn't, but I think once I get citizenship there, she should be ok.
JustAnotherGen
(38,070 posts)I will be at the firing range with one of my gun clubs.
I'm important because I had my first shotgun at the age of 12. When they get to Newark NJ or Philly - they are going to encounter urban guerilla warfare resistance.
35 years ago it was rural white men cos playing as Revolutionary War Militias.
Now it's urban and suburban Black women following Harriet's lead in the Combahee Ferry raid.
No one is going to save us but ourselves.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,286 posts)I shouldve added that originally in fact I will.
erronis
(24,061 posts)Most national militaries are there for protection against foreign countries, or built up to fight against them.
ICE is being positioned to fight the people living in the US.
Expect a lot of collateral damage. Every civilian is a potential target.:
but the fact that they are having trouble recruiting despite all the financial rewards they are offering gives me some hope that people are on to them.
Plus, young men who join ICE are virtually guaranteed to never have sex again.
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Before i found my awesome girlfriend. There must have been 10:1 posts saying if youre maga, you have zero chance.
Then youd see the im a "trad wife" post, and they didnt want to work, and they needed to have x amount of money every month for an allowance. These people are fucked in the head.
North Coast Lawyer
(260 posts)ICE is to Trump as the SS was to Hitler.
JustAnotherGen
(38,070 posts)How important it is to arm oneself.
AverageOldGuy
(3,980 posts)My paternal grandparents came from Switzerland. We have already contacted the Swiss Embassy for the details on long-term residency. It's possible, not difficult
Meanwhile, At age 80 I'm no longer hunting but I'm an old soldier who spent a year in a place called Vietnam (look it up -- it's a few paragraphs in the history books) where I became quite proficient in the use of the M-16/AR-15. I won't describe what's in my gun safe, but any MAGAt who wants to threaten us needs to bring ID so we know whom to call.
JustAnotherGen
(38,070 posts)In the early days of FB my dad went viral with:
Pic 1:
Rules For Dating My Daughter
Pic 2:
I was a Green Beret.
Pic 3:
I taught her everything she knows.
But he did. I almost broke his arm when I was 14 getting out of a back hair / shirt grab. Dislocated his shoulder. Was with him all day before he died.
No joke. He was still laughing about it.
hadEnuf
(3,634 posts)our loved ones, our friends and our country. Trump is amassing too much power, too quickly and his cabinet appointees are insane fascists who worship him like a Fuhrer and will do whatever he says without question. Then there are his MAGA followers.
I really hope I'm wrong, but at the very least we should expect some shit to start breaking out in the future and be prepared, however you choose to prepare.
Just the MAGAs understanding that we are prepared and that we have had enough of them, would give them pause and possibly act as a deterrent. They only understand strength, not diplomacy.
Magoo48
(6,723 posts)unblock
(56,220 posts)They are really only celebrated and admired within their own delusional world. Sadly, it is a dangerously large delusional world....
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,496 posts)that Hitler removed the age requirements for soldiers. These fuckers are doing it 8 mos in!
BBbats
(310 posts)They're just itching to!
And what do we think the buildup of the private prison industry is about?
Take a wild guess!
Lucky Luciano
(11,868 posts)while getting paid?
Magoo48
(6,723 posts)The solutions are being worked out within our resistance on the streets and in the fields of California as well as neighborhoods across our nation.