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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStephen Miller pitches a hissy-fit over redistricting -- his math is nuts
Democrats have stolen 20 to 30 House seats by counting illegal aliens in the census. Just think about that for a second, Miller said. Now you have Democrats talking about, Oh Republicans cant change their congressional maps?
According to The Poynter Institutes Politifact, the number Miller cited was amplified last year by prominent Republicansincluding Elon Muskand is based on pure fantasy.
To get there, anti-immigration advocates took one unofficial and unreliable estimate for the total number of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. (16.8 million) and divided it by the number of people that each congressional seat represents (761,169).
Then they assumed that every single one of those undocumented immigrants lived in blue stateseven though far more immigrants moved to red states than blue states between 2019 and 2023and concluded that Democrats stole 22 seats.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-miller-yells-about-democrats-in-defense-of-donald-trumps-census-and-redistricting-power-grabs/
underpants
(197,189 posts)Kid Berwyn
(25,107 posts)NAZIs like Stephen Miller think just saying something makes it so.
allegorical oracle
(6,592 posts)newdeal2
(5,610 posts)Just the low information voters watching Fox and Newsmax.
crazylikafox
(2,942 posts)Undocumented residents would have been very reluctant to respond to a census. Why would they want to give the government that much information about where they lived, etc.?
My daughter worked a previous census, and she has many stories of people who didnt want to be found and identified. I imagine the undocumented were already grossly undercounted
yellowdogintexas
(23,763 posts)The only refusals to complete my questionaire were African-Americans!
I had one woman literally chase me out of her yard. She came home while I was interviewing her husband and she threw a wall-eyed fit!
Another married couple got almost all the way through the questionaire and abruptly stopped and decided they "needed to think about it" .
I was interviewing a young man (anyone over 15 qualified to give me information) who was somewhat reticent. We had a lot of flexibility with hesitant people; we could use substitute names for example. So anyway we were almost finished when the parents came home. The first thing out of the father's mouth was " What did you tell them?" I had to explain how I structured the data for security and he calmed down. He was better after I told him it was just a head count.
On the other hand, not ONE Hispanic/Mexican/Latino person refused me. They would invite me in, give me water, answer all my questions and were very welcoming. One lady who did not speak English called the neighbor's daughter over to translate for us.
yellowdogintexas
(23,763 posts)I think the folks I interviewed were quite aware of this.
All we wanted was the basic statistics
Some of the worst undercounting was in Alabama and Mississippi.
Texas was undercounted also, mostly due to the late start because of COVID. Normally the Census starts in June, but we did not get going until September.
I really enjoyed doing it and I hope I am healthy enough to do it again in 5 years. If the citizenship question gets on the form though I will not do it even though it is good money. I just don't want to contribute to anything happening to someone I interviewed.
JCMach1
(29,242 posts)He is full of 💩💩💩
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220543643
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