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First of all, what an embarrassment, Inviting Putin to the United States, just like when Krasnov invited the Taliban to Camp David.
The peace plan will be the same exact one that JD Vance proposed way back during the campaign;
Russia gets the land it has occupied.
A peace force is stationed at the border,
Ukraine pledges not to join NATO.
All of the mean talk Krasnov had towards Putin was pre-planned, Kabuki theater, Krasnov is still Putin's puppet.
Wounded Bear
(64,643 posts)Ocelot II
(131,242 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(4,806 posts)Then what?
indusurb
(347 posts)The EU will continue to back Ukraine, and hopefully that will be enough to outlast Russia. This is a war of attrition now, and Russia and Putin are facing some serious deadlines. Money for Russia's war machine is running out. The men and material needed to supply that war machine is also running out. Putin's political stock is also running low. I think if Ukraine can stay in the fight Russia will be forced to turn tail and return home like they did in Afghanistan forty years ago, and Ukraine, all of Ukraine will remain free.
There's a reason why Putin wants a peace deal, to regroup, resupply, and renew his political capital. He can't keep this up, otherwise Russia implodes, much like the USSR did. This is very much a replay of the Soviet-Afghan war and its aftermath, and Putin knows this and in his heart of hearts, is running scared.
gab13by13
(32,789 posts)plus he just initiated a 300,00 plus military draft, plus he is paying mercenaries from other countries to fight.
China is helping Putin, India is buying his oil, the United States is buying his fertilizer and uranium.
indusurb
(347 posts)Here:
https://fortune.com/2025/08/09/russia-economy-fiscal-deficit-trump-putin-meeting-alaska-ukraine-war/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/14/is-russia-running-out-of-weapons-and-manpower-for-its-war-in-ukraine
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/analytics/not-unlimited-why-russia-can-t-fight-for-1721802902.html
If Putin still thought he could push through and achieve total victory in Ukraine, he wouldn't even be considering peace talks. Now he is trying to bluff his way in this war, get territorial concessions from Ukraine, and a pause in hostilities so he can regroup and resupply. He knows that if he continues down this current road it ends up like the Afghan war, humiliation, defeat, and himself out of power. Ukraine needs to call his bluff and keep pressing the war home.
appmanga
(1,531 posts)...and the Trump Cabal will try to strongarm Zelenskyy into accepting this modern day appeasement, on par with giving Hitler the Sudetenland. Half of Europe is already bowing down to Trump, so, unless France and Germany step up, Ukraine will likely be left on its own.
roamer65
(37,974 posts)Aka the Franco-German alliance.
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