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gab13by13

(32,789 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:04 AM Aug 2025

I Know What The Peace Plan Will Be Coming Out Of Alaska

First of all, what an embarrassment, Inviting Putin to the United States, just like when Krasnov invited the Taliban to Camp David.

The peace plan will be the same exact one that JD Vance proposed way back during the campaign;

Russia gets the land it has occupied.

A peace force is stationed at the border,

Ukraine pledges not to join NATO.

All of the mean talk Krasnov had towards Putin was pre-planned, Kabuki theater, Krasnov is still Putin's puppet.

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I Know What The Peace Plan Will Be Coming Out Of Alaska (Original Post) gab13by13 Aug 2025 OP
Go, go, President Chamberlain...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2025 #1
That's the Putin/Trump plan and Zelenskyy won't accept it. Ocelot II Aug 2025 #2
Agreed, President Zelenski will not accept. Prairie_Seagull Aug 2025 #3
Ukraine will fight on, with or without the help of the US(most likely without) indusurb Aug 2025 #4
Putin has plenty of cannon fodder to use up, gab13by13 Aug 2025 #5
Nah, he is on the losing side of a war of attrition indusurb Aug 2025 #7
I think that's accurate... appmanga Aug 2025 #6
The EU won't accept it. roamer65 Aug 2025 #8

indusurb

(347 posts)
4. Ukraine will fight on, with or without the help of the US(most likely without)
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:38 AM
Aug 2025

The EU will continue to back Ukraine, and hopefully that will be enough to outlast Russia. This is a war of attrition now, and Russia and Putin are facing some serious deadlines. Money for Russia's war machine is running out. The men and material needed to supply that war machine is also running out. Putin's political stock is also running low. I think if Ukraine can stay in the fight Russia will be forced to turn tail and return home like they did in Afghanistan forty years ago, and Ukraine, all of Ukraine will remain free.

There's a reason why Putin wants a peace deal, to regroup, resupply, and renew his political capital. He can't keep this up, otherwise Russia implodes, much like the USSR did. This is very much a replay of the Soviet-Afghan war and its aftermath, and Putin knows this and in his heart of hearts, is running scared.

gab13by13

(32,789 posts)
5. Putin has plenty of cannon fodder to use up,
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 11:14 AM
Aug 2025

plus he just initiated a 300,00 plus military draft, plus he is paying mercenaries from other countries to fight.

China is helping Putin, India is buying his oil, the United States is buying his fertilizer and uranium.

indusurb

(347 posts)
7. Nah, he is on the losing side of a war of attrition
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 12:33 PM
Aug 2025

Here:
https://fortune.com/2025/08/09/russia-economy-fiscal-deficit-trump-putin-meeting-alaska-ukraine-war/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/14/is-russia-running-out-of-weapons-and-manpower-for-its-war-in-ukraine
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/analytics/not-unlimited-why-russia-can-t-fight-for-1721802902.html

If Putin still thought he could push through and achieve total victory in Ukraine, he wouldn't even be considering peace talks. Now he is trying to bluff his way in this war, get territorial concessions from Ukraine, and a pause in hostilities so he can regroup and resupply. He knows that if he continues down this current road it ends up like the Afghan war, humiliation, defeat, and himself out of power. Ukraine needs to call his bluff and keep pressing the war home.

appmanga

(1,531 posts)
6. I think that's accurate...
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 12:28 PM
Aug 2025

...and the Trump Cabal will try to strongarm Zelenskyy into accepting this modern day appeasement, on par with giving Hitler the Sudetenland. Half of Europe is already bowing down to Trump, so, unless France and Germany step up, Ukraine will likely be left on its own.

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