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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen does he announce he is running for POTUS again after this term is up?
What is the scenario you think we will see?
marble falls
(71,926 posts)Initech
(108,783 posts)Either dementia or a massive coronary will get him before the term is up. He can barely stand as it is.
Deuxcents
(26,915 posts)No elections needed as hes already said that last year
CTyankee
(68,202 posts)He's gonna claim the Constitution meant only successive terms, not ones with intervening years, was the limit. I'm sure he's got some folks working on it now.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)But do very little, and that includes not running again for president.
But he will sell a lot of Trump 2028 hats, just to make the libs cry.
Reminder: states run the elections, and not even SCOTUS can force a state to put Trump on its ballot for an unconstitutional third term.
CTyankee
(68,202 posts)I know this sounds crazy, but I think he is capable of doing it. Personally, I think he'll be removed, one way or another, before his term is out and we'll have to deal with JD, a far craftier character. Then Vance will be all set to have his next term to finish us off as a democratic republic.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)I think there are quite a few Dem governors and Secretaries of State who would disagree with you.
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)they've already amply demonstrated that they have no respect for the Constitution or the rule of law....
and that they have the backbone of a jellyfish
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Which is why Trump wont subject himself to the humiliation of actually attempting it.
Blues Heron
(8,838 posts)Free speech or whatever they end up justifying it with.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)But an unprecedented ruling overturning a constitutional amendment a clear, black letter (and number) law, would eliminate the courts relevancy and power.
Its not going to happen, and Trump isnt going to run as VP, or any of that other loophole nonsense.
Blues Heron
(8,838 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Somebody had sued in state court regarding 14th amendment disqualification for federal office.
The court ruled, with 2 liberals concurring, and the other only partially dissenting, that the suit should have been brought in federal court, to determine disqualification for the presidency nationwide, rather than have 50 suits in state courts to disqualify Trump on a state by state basis - imagine the chaos in that scenario, as red states disqualified Biden in retaliation.
Blues Heron
(8,838 posts)You were right the first time, the Roberts court is corrupt.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)I dont think you understand the ruling - it wasnt about disqualification, it was about venue and standing.
Blues Heron
(8,838 posts)What do you think they would have done if the big O had done J6? Let him back on the ballot if Mississippi had taken him off?
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Of course, one would have to believe Obama would incite an insurrection first.
Lets say Mississippi disqualified Obama over his birth certificate- the Roberts court would have overturned such a move.
But you have changed the subject- go read Jacksons concurrence of the Colorado ruling, if you truly seek to understand.
Blues Heron
(8,838 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)I think the ruling came out in late winter/early spring 2024, so there was still time before states printed ballots in the fall, although the Roberts court would likely have delayed it.
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)Of course if they had ruled against Trump, that would have been a bombshell which should have ended his candidacy right then.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)The suit was about whether a state had the standing, and whether a state court was the appropriate venue to make a ruling on disqualification under the 14th amendment for a federal office.
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EdmondDantes_
(1,797 posts)Thank you for bringing some common sense to this.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)You are writing about anymore.
It's gone.
The rules don't apply. We can rebuild however we want.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)But it also makes little sense.
Care to clarify?
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)without thinking of the possible consequences when the pendulum swings back,
as it always does....
My childhood best friend, a Republican with whom I often talked politics
once made this observation, during the Shrub administration:
"Yeah, the Democrats 'spend like drunken sailors',
but now the Republicans are spending 'like drunken Democrats'!"---
and stated that they were "lowering the bar" for deficit spending....
(while claiming to want to 'balance the budget')
Republicans have now been "lowering the bar" for political persecution,
respect for the rule of law and for the truth---
and I hope Democrats will make them PAY for it when we get the chance!
FUCK this "look to the future" nonsense---
there can be no future without prosecuting the criminals of the present!
And frankly, I have often said that Democrats don't LIE enough----
but we don't have to, now, the TRUTH is bad enough---
That the Republican Party is FULL OF PEDOPHILES,
and PEDOPHILE APOLOGISTS!!!
But do our Democratic politicians USE THAT???
NO!!!!! because they are too fucking 'polite'
There are LISTS.......
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Well be lucky if Dems can get a trifecta by 2028, and elect enough courageous senators who will kill the filibuster and expand the court so that any laws passed by the new congress wont be overturned before the ink is dry.
Your revenge fantasies will have to remain just that - fantasies.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)What's your thought on what the end game is?
I'm interested.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)We have elections in November 2028, and in January 2029 a new president and VP, neither of whom will be named Donald J Trump, will be inaugurated.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)2025?
Scott Pressler has set up camp in NJ. He's the second coming of Roger Stone. He turned (cheated) PA for Krasnov The Rapist.
In 1981, Stone sent out 'Flying Squads' to intimidate and terrorize Black voters. Kean Sr. won by1,797 votes in a recount.
How soon is now?
Armed Men at the Polls, Voters in Urban Areas removed and/or challenged.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/Voices/2020/08/11/Armed-poll-watchers-NJs-cautionary-tale-from-1981/3701597146308/
Are you familiar with this history?
Also - Shelby v Holder in 2013 says the magapubs can do it again.
Are you POSITIVE that they will not scrub anyone who is not a magapub from the voter rolls in NJ or VA this year?
What leads you to believe that everyone will be allowed to vote?
Do you have insider info from the magapub party you can share here?
For your edification:
https://secure.anedot.com/hunterdon-county-republican-committee/earlyvoteaction
https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2020/11/voter-suppression-in-nj-kean-florio-election-rnc-flying-squads-roger-stone-john-roberts/
Archived remembrance by former Assistant AG Kristen Clarke. I trust her. She's a known Black Woman who put her neck on the line for America. Like Harris, Crockett, Chisholm . . .
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/reflecting-10th-anniversary-shelby-county-v-holder
Seriously - is this like the whole "He's not going to do that" stuff we heard about Project 2025?
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Indeed, chicanery and subterfuge will be attempted, but success is not guaranteed.
I follow Marc Elias and his Democracy Docket newsletter for the latest on anti-voter actions by state and federal governments, as well as the legal challenges to protect the vote.
Much will unfold between now and November 2028, but one thing is certain: Trump will not be president after January 20, 2029.
Dont give in to the mythology that Trump is omnipotent and the states and the people are powerless- that is a form of subtly surrendering in advance.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)In NJ - a northern state held to the same standards as Mississippi and Alabama until Shelby V Holder.
I also follow and subscribe to the Democracy Docket.
One thing we know when we look at Fascism in Italy and it's true point of beginning (1925) is that it was a 6 month slide until the Black Shirts took over. My husband's family were fascists and their descendants - including him -
Are hitting the alarm.
Where I sit in Amerikkka? It's always been bullshit, it has never been equal opportunity and from the very beginning it started with the subjugation of human beings.
We have to agree to disagree. Your family history may very well differ from mine. And so you have experienced America as the land of the free and the home of the brave. Others not so much.
You can find my husband's Zio Nicolo all over pictures with Beni. A week after the 2016 election he told my Giovanni "Come home now and bring your pretty American wife with you. Now." He died a few years ago.
He had seen some shit in his life.
I believe him. I believe the man who set up the fake concentration camp in Calabria to punk the Nazis and was heralded as a Great Partisan, Senator for life . . . That's who I believe.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Im not interested in discussing tangential topics.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)So everything is alright in your book.
Interesting.
Nothing bad is happening in the country.
Gotcha.
Voting rights is a tangential issue.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)If you want to discuss voting rights in general, why not start your own thread, rather than hijack this one, which was created to discuss whether Trump can/will seek a third term.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)And I didn't put words in your mouth. Chillax.
I only argue with my peers in the Democratic Committee. Everyone else - I'm just picking your brain.
It's interesting though to see how far the rank and file American will go to deny the Dictatorship.
It's too bad you thought I was arguing with you. Regardless - we are prepared in our house.
Good luck out there!
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Interesting.
Nothing bad is happening in the country.
Gotcha.
Voting rights is a tangential issue.
I never said any of those things, I merely refused to engage with you in your thread hijack.
If this is how you conduct field research for the DNC, youre gonna need way more luck out there than I ever will.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)Voting rights is a tangential issue in the context of the topic of this thread , which is whether Trump can or will seek a third term, and not a thread about the much broader topic of voting rights.
You are attempting to portray my words as implying voting rights is a tangential issue (as in, unimportant and unworthy of discussion at all ), which, if not an attack, is a ham handed attempt to smear me.
Takket
(23,715 posts)and SCOTUS will say "if the president does it, it is not illegal (again)"
that's the somewhat less likely result.
I think the most likely result is JD becomes the puppet and the campaign is "vote for JD and drumpf will still basically be president".
and Miller will continue running the country.
drumpf has always been the useful idiot for Miller's fascist agenda. Miller can't get elected which is why they use the racist senile old fool to fire up MAGA but Miller is drumpf's real handler and calls the shots. drumpf has no real idea what is going on around him. Miller carefully controls the information drumpf gets so drumpf will support every policy Miller wants.
Midnight Writer
(25,410 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)
CTyankee
(68,202 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,706 posts)It's not his money.
How much he spent is strictly for his immediate gratification. Three years from now isn't even a factor in the equation.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)That's just a stupid unsourced meme.
JoseBalow
(9,489 posts)B.See
(8,503 posts)occupation is up, but he's BEEN airing that idea for quite some time. He's dead serious, though some apparently don't think so.
He keeps showing us who... WHAT he is. Believe him
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)Think everyone understands where we are yet.
B.See
(8,503 posts)off-the-clock
(339 posts)...because the Biden win wasn't. So nothing to stop a 4th or 5th...just hold a lovely pageant every 4th January
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)A recent poll testing this unconstitutional scenario showed Obama beating Trump by double digits in a general election....
So maybe Obama chooses Kamala Harris as his running mate, and then resigns after taking office....
no_hypocrisy
(54,908 posts)contributions from "donors" and "Trump 2028" PACs. Then you can just connect the dots.
Torchlight
(6,830 posts)he begins dropping trial balloons to gauge the support. If he thinks he has enough, all bets are off.
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)In 2026 From rigging the whole damn thing. Putin like.
Maybe 1500 percent from trumps math skills.
dem4decades
(14,057 posts)A Democrat will never have an election certified again. There's no more Mike Pence left in the Republican Party. It's just about over, democracy is for all intents and purposes dead.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)With his plan to hold Trump accountable for the crimes he is committing against the Constitution. That will drive Trump off the deep end.
Runningdawg
(4,664 posts)He will rule until he dies or is assassinated (by one of his own) and will have previously named his successor. We have passed the point of no return. With the privatization of the DC police force he is preparing the throne for a seige. Prepare accordingly.