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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo let me get this straight
On January 6 2021, there was a big riot in Washington DC, instigated by Donald Trump, who encouraged his supporters to march to the Capitol Building by telling them lies about the presidential election.
When they got there, they assaulted hundreds of police officers (causing the deaths of a couple) and vandalized the beautiful, historic building on their way to try to hang the vice president and various members of Congress. They smashed windows, caused millions of dollars in property damage, and stole personal and government property from offices.
Then, when he became president again, Donald Trump gave pardons to all of those people and let them out of jail, even the ones with long sentences for violently assaulting cops and committing seditious conspiracy.
And then today Donald Trump went on TV and said he was sending the National Guard into DC and federalizing its police force, in order to combat violent crime and protect government property, even though violent crime in DC is currently down 26% from 2024, which was down 35% from 2023.
If I have all that right, then I guess I just have one more question...
Is Trump going to release the Epstein files like he promised?

unblock
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never mind all the further crimes and mayhem and corruption and abuses of office and power he's be accused of...
... being in charge of law and order.
leftstreet
(41,257 posts)They're supposedly very pissed off at him
GoCubsGo
(35,000 posts)He's looking for an excuse to institute martial law, and he's hoping to instigate violence to give himself a reason to do so. He's hoping to goad any protesters into rioting. It didn't work in L.A., so he's moving on to another big city with a black lady for a mayor, because he's a racist fuck on top of it all. No doubt he wants them riot so that the police and military will mow them all down, too.
The only thing he's afraid of is that whatever he's trying to hide regarding his relationship with Jeffery Epstein becomes public.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Magoo48
(6,739 posts)Depending on push back, or acquiescence, this fascist move will be either disturbing or a public-galvanizing failure.
GoCubsGo
(35,000 posts)Including that.
Justice matters.
(10,084 posts)and keep the pressure on his Fascist regime until it will fall in disgrace.
IronLionZion
(51,554 posts)to distract from the Epstein files. Dude is looking so guilty. His goons have probably destroyed the files by now.
Justice matters.
(10,084 posts)somewhere they have no idea where, which could prevent them from even trying. (pedofelon's life could end anytime and his cult would not survive to protect any potential criminal covering up).
Bev54
(13,517 posts)Warpy
(114,676 posts)in what was reported to be an attempted carjacking (yeah, right, the poor lad) and now King Fatberg is calling up the military to rid "his" city of homeless people, although there is no proof they had any part in the purported ass stomping.
But yes, this is still unlikely be be news so massive that it will drown out anything that is in Epstein's remaining paperwork because we all know that paperwork will never see the light of day until his client list have all gone on to their eternal rewards in comfort, surrounded by still loving family.
He's hoping his fan club won't notice. He's probably right.
spanone
(142,062 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,985 posts)Who says Orange Julius Caesar has no compassion for others?
Diamond_Dog
(41,057 posts)Endlessmike56
(240 posts)Same old routine
aggiesal
(10,915 posts)erronis
(24,541 posts)Living inside of this transforming beast is difficult to see what is happening. I'm guessing that the astute observers on the outside can watch the horror and understand more clearly.
Uncle Joe
(65,538 posts)standing there proudly wearing her cross.
It must just be a fashion statement with Bondi that "looks pretty," as *rump's vision of D.C. would be once they kick out "the least of these."
Thanks for thread EarlG
Owens
(600 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Only dropped his fellow pedo because he stole his underage womenfolk from under him?
Like every upstanding pedo, come on man!
PEDO is in with them!
Show us the list so we can rattle off those upstanding PEDO names!!!!!
upstanding.... muhahaha!
malaise
(297,993 posts)Rec
CaptainTruth
(8,258 posts)Trump is trying to turn America into a lawless shithole & I'm effing mad as hell about it.
He needs to be stopped & I no longer care how. America is under attack, we are at war & we need to fight to save our country.
North Coast Lawyer
(266 posts)"Big Balls" went running to his Daddy when he go beat up by a teenage girl.
underpants
(197,192 posts)tonekat
(2,569 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,726 posts)If he was actually beat up, I'd guess it was not a carjacking. More likely he mouthed off to the wrong person.
Is Mr Balls still employed by the government?
underpants
(197,192 posts)From what Ive read he got his girlfriend in the car then he got beat up. He was jumped for sure. At that point if theyd wanted to take the car, they could have.
Scrivener7
(60,076 posts)underpants
(197,192 posts)Dont want to get in trouble.
Scrivener7
(60,076 posts)He was 19 or 20. The drinking age is 21.
underpants
(197,192 posts)He was just out until 3 AM.
Depends on the bar. They may card and wristband or stamp people.
progree
(13,078 posts)Trump puts Washington, DC, police under federal control, deploys National Guard, CNBC, 8/11/25
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/watch-trump-puts-washington-dc-police-under-federal-control-deploys-national-guard/ar-AA1Kj70M
democrank
(12,680 posts)Surely Fox News is hot on Trumps trail. If that doesnt work out, theres always CBS
.ABC
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If Trump wants to be known as The Anti-Crime president, maybe the Highly Qualified Bondi/Patel/Miller team can grab some Sharpies and show The Best President Ever the connection between DC crime and January 6ers.
hadEnuf
(3,657 posts)If you think about it in those terms, what he does makes more sense.
Dave Bowman
(7,456 posts)AntiFascist
(13,756 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(34,296 posts)How in the fuck can you fucking Republicans reading this continue to fucking support this.
I hate you I hate every one of you, but if you dont support it then thats great and you are welcome to join us.
JCMach1
(29,242 posts)We need to always paint that distinction.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,296 posts)And hopefully some of the idiots out there will remember it when it comes time to vote.
JCMach1
(29,242 posts)On similitude to organize their universe. Without reframing they will continue to see the similitude between the Republican title, what is now and the past.
Change would require thought that they are not particularly familiar with.
dweller
(28,703 posts)Narratively speaking, the tightest ending to this screenplay is probably the freed J6 protestors storming the White House to demand the release of the Epstein files
Franklin Leonard
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allegorical oracle
(6,594 posts)feared that there would be some mention of Clinton in the files, but have decided there must not be much. Otherwise Pam, Kash, and the gang would've surely released it.
Fil1957
(881 posts)BidenRocks
(3,498 posts)Do a military Coup and restore democracy. All enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!
We laughed about the domestic part. We never realized in 1973 it could get this bad.
The entire cabinet, especially Miller are jailed.
Perform a forensic audit of the treasury to show magats where the money went!
Outlaw maga as an un-American activity.
Deep breath, unload and smile again!
surfered
(14,301 posts)His playbook: create a problem that doesnt exist, then claim credit for fixing the problem that didnt exist.
Emile
(43,283 posts)
Justice matters.
(10,084 posts)In spite of his criminal management of the pandemic, he didn't crush it down without a shred of it coming back from total destruction for Putin and Kim Jung.
And since the company failed to hold him accountable, he came back to finish the job until the day he'll die, while robbing a few billions out of it for himself and his corrupt offspring.
mahina
(20,724 posts)When the Epstein files are finally released
Aloha Earl G
1WorldHope
(2,158 posts)into Ivanka's casket, and now he is making a mafia move and paving over a bunch more under the rose garden slab? If there are even more documents he could put in the bases of all the confederate statues he is resurrecting?
He isn't doing this shit alone. And there are few secrets that last forever.
Just thinking out loud.
SunSeeker
(58,374 posts)But I was told by everyone on the right that the only person who could deploy the National Guard (or prevent the deployment of the National Guard) was Nancy Pelosi.
— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen.bsky.social) 2025-08-11T20:07:58.307Z
moondust
(21,352 posts)Initech
(109,269 posts)berniesandersmittens
(13,211 posts)Johonny
(26,618 posts)Had committed crimes unrelated to Jan 6th. Several people who were pardoned have hence forth committed over violent crimes. Meaning he didn't even bother to do the basic protocol of checking the pardons background.
But none of this rule of law matters anymore. The criminal justice system isn't for law and order, but exists only to maintain the status quo.
America is dead, many Americans don't realize this fact
marble falls
(72,543 posts)ecstatic
(35,135 posts)without the added bullshit that he's trying to inject into them, his own supporters might try to physically drag him out the White House.
mcar
(46,366 posts)When is the convict going to release the Epstein files?
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,091 posts)ZDU
(1,415 posts)... establishing his fortress within the District of Columbia and has zero intention of ever leaving his position. Future elections will be a sham or not be held. We have long, long passed the "constitutional crisis" phase... ugly, ugly, ugly... and worse
happy feet
(1,302 posts)at every presser (except getting aid to Gaza and supporting Ukraine against Russia)
TBF
(37,197 posts)
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