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gab13by13

(32,767 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:25 PM Aug 2025

Dan Goldman Is Getting Eaten Alive On MSNBC

On Symone's show. I just posted a thread 2 hours ago about how Democrats are fighting fire with fire. Symone and her panel asked Goldman what is Democrats' plan to deal with the militarization of D.C.

His answers were weak tea. He said they would file a lawsuit, he said they will blame Congressional Magats.

It is time for Democrats to think outside the box, blaming Congressional Magats and blaming Krasnov and hoping that Congressional Magats come around is wishful thinking.

Symone was very frustrated with his response.

Maybe organizing a massive peaceful protest? Get together and brainstorm what to do, DC won't be the last place to be militarized.

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Dan Goldman Is Getting Eaten Alive On MSNBC (Original Post) gab13by13 Aug 2025 OP
Maybe it's not his job to organize a protest? flamingdem Aug 2025 #1
Why not? gab13by13 Aug 2025 #13
Yeah, we don't want our leaders "leading" - that's crazy talk. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2025 #37
It's up to us. Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #2
I donate to Indivisible and the ACLU gab13by13 Aug 2025 #21
I wasn't talking about donations Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #24
Goldman is a patriot..... Lovie777 Aug 2025 #3
She went independent (or at least said she was) in mid March 2025, over 4 months after the 2024 election. Celerity Aug 2025 #19
I don't t think your statement is true. She backed the Dem ticket and was vocal about it. FloridaBlues Aug 2025 #20
Very sorry to hear that Goldman didn't do well. Paladin Aug 2025 #4
See it for yourself flamingdem Aug 2025 #9
Agree. ancianita Aug 2025 #30
If saying angrychair Aug 2025 #31
There is no fixing this, aside from voting or another v-word. W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #40
I watched it. His answers were just fine. I thought he did well. skylucy Aug 2025 #12
I wish they would work more on their points of conversation. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #5
What is there to explain ? JI7 Aug 2025 #8
Is that a serious question? hamsterjill Aug 2025 #15
Those that have a problem with this are already opposed to Trump JI7 Aug 2025 #16
Honestly, I don't understand what you're trying to say here. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #29
Really? That's what you see? vanlassie Aug 2025 #33
But lawsuits are the actual things which have stopped JI7 Aug 2025 #6
Lawsuits are fine gab13by13 Aug 2025 #14
There isn't much that can be done. People voted for this. JI7 Aug 2025 #17
Isn't doing nothing gab13by13 Aug 2025 #22
I didn't say do nothing JI7 Aug 2025 #25
Admittedly I did not see it, but this is typical Symone karynnj Aug 2025 #7
I like Dan Goldman and I thought he came across well on The Weeknight. skylucy Aug 2025 #10
Sounds like she took Karma13612 Aug 2025 #41
He's a lawyer MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #11
The repubs have a powerful proxy machine. cachukis Aug 2025 #18
Project 2025 is ahead of schedule gab13by13 Aug 2025 #23
Heritage has been working on this for years. cachukis Aug 2025 #27
So he wasn't perfect in your eyes mcar Aug 2025 #26
Wrong! We must hit the GOP in multiple ways... BigmanPigman Aug 2025 #28
I thought we were supposed to be supporting Democrats here. Symone goes for ratings, pnwmom Aug 2025 #32
Dan Goldman is Democratic Party Superstar!! aeromanKC Aug 2025 #34
I heard someone say there's a "blistering letter" writerJT Aug 2025 #35
That's really getting old. MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #39
Let's think outside the box, like, erm, massive peaceful protests! Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #36
Sorry to tell you all this.... William Gustafson Aug 2025 #38
video Celerity Aug 2025 #42

flamingdem

(40,980 posts)
1. Maybe it's not his job to organize a protest?
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:28 PM
Aug 2025

I wish we'd hear more fire but figure that this is about overwhelming Democrats and distracting from Epstein.

I say: keep the focus on EPSTEIN.

Also, Symone is really hammering the DC thing cuz it's her town maybe but in the scheme of things.. EPSTEIN is a winning issue and let's not lose the focus.

gab13by13

(32,767 posts)
13. Why not?
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:49 PM
Aug 2025

Think outside the box.

Dems need to respond immediately to all the distractions while keeping Epstein on the front page.

If the Congressional plan is to let Krasnov break the law, giving illegal orders is breaking the law, and hope that the people protest then so be it, that is the Schumer plan.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,079 posts)
2. It's up to us.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:28 PM
Aug 2025

Several activist threads were posted in the past couple of days by DUer usonian [/i ] that have links and videos for all sorts of protests and activities.

Check ‘em out!

Fiendish Thingy

(24,079 posts)
24. I wasn't talking about donations
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:15 PM
Aug 2025

Usonian’s threads contain tons of excellent resource on things folks can DO rather than feeling powerless.

Lovie777

(23,740 posts)
3. Goldman is a patriot.....
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:35 PM
Aug 2025

to my understanding Symone went Indy and did not support the Democratic Presidential ticket on 2024.

Celerity

(54,878 posts)
19. She went independent (or at least said she was) in mid March 2025, over 4 months after the 2024 election.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:06 PM
Aug 2025

Whenever I saw her speak in 2024 she was completely anti Trump, and also, post DNC, was pro nominee VP Harris, whom she used to work for.

edited to add (per another poster in post 20) that she apparently has not registered as an indie

FloridaBlues

(4,684 posts)
20. I don't t think your statement is true. She backed the Dem ticket and was vocal about it.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:06 PM
Aug 2025

She threatened once about going Indy but has not done so according to statements on the show.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
4. Very sorry to hear that Goldman didn't do well.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:37 PM
Aug 2025

He's been one of my favorite Democrats for some time. Normally his responses are first-rate.

angrychair

(12,504 posts)
31. If saying
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:32 PM
Aug 2025

"we will do almost nothing" is fine than I guess it's fine.

We have Mango Mussolini doing military takeovers of cities. A literal effort to rewrite our nation's history. Him making actual billions of dollars in grift. All while the couch humper is going on vacations like it's his job as a travel influencer.

But sure, let's bust out some sternly worded letters and hold press conferences. I'm sure that will fix it.

W_HAMILTON

(10,438 posts)
40. There is no fixing this, aside from voting or another v-word.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 01:38 AM
Aug 2025

Instead of constantly complaining, people should tell us what this magic wand is that Democrats could wave and make everything better this very instant.

Spoiler alert: Campaign rallies in blue cities months after the election, viral tweets, protests, etc. -- none of that ultimately will do a damn thing either.

hamsterjill

(17,756 posts)
5. I wish they would work more on their points of conversation.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:37 PM
Aug 2025

Sometimes, it seems they go on these shows and are surprised at the questions asked and do not have strong answers. That would be a starting point.

Maybe they need to compile some hefty donors and take out some ads or buy some air time where they can explain their platform to the American people. We have a shitload of wealthy entertainment industry Dems who give money. Perhaps they could be asked to give a small percentage more. I think most average income people are getting tapped out.

We need to go beyond MSNBC to reach people who are not Democratic voters.

hamsterjill

(17,756 posts)
15. Is that a serious question?
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:53 PM
Aug 2025

What is there NOT to explain?

I think the American people want to know what the Democrats are doing to counter Trump's takeover of this country. Is that not what should be explained? Should they explain what Trump's actions actually mean for the average person's rights and remedies? That Trump wants to be a freaking dictator or king? What his current agenda means for the average person?

Not everyone reads DU or watches MSNBC or listens to podcasts.

hamsterjill

(17,756 posts)
29. Honestly, I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:03 PM
Aug 2025

Those that have a problem with what?

vanlassie

(6,272 posts)
33. Really? That's what you see?
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:47 PM
Aug 2025

I see people like us. Doing an amazing and thankless job, lately, any way. Dan Goldman is one of the very best voices for us.

JI7

(93,904 posts)
6. But lawsuits are the actual things which have stopped
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:38 PM
Aug 2025

him . And you have a problem with that ?

Protests don't do anything other than invite attention whore troublemakers that will do bad things and it will spread through media and that becomes the story.

gab13by13

(32,767 posts)
14. Lawsuits are fine
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:52 PM
Aug 2025

But based on recent history take years to be resolved. Just like the strategy to beat them in 2026 is waiting too long.

Project 2025 is ahead of schedule.

karynnj

(61,094 posts)
7. Admittedly I did not see it, but this is typical Symone
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:38 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:26 AM - Edit history (1)

As a Congressman and an excellent lawyer, I would think he would be more useful using his skills and position to negotiate a way out of this.

There has been some commentary that the cool, measured response of DCs government and the lack of large protests, that would be filmed, edited and used to PROVE DC is violent, has been a smart response.

Ignoring that, she is part of the media and they should be doing more to make the case that DC crime has been lied about and is coming down. Even their cause celebre, the Doge guy, actually showed that DC's police were there to arrest some of the attackers. Not to mention, his injuries were such that he did not go to the hospital. (It was a nasty event, but doesn't reach to the level of a large, violent mob attacking the Capital.)

skylucy

(4,024 posts)
10. I like Dan Goldman and I thought he came across well on The Weeknight.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:47 PM
Aug 2025

I am ok with Symone, but she always acts frustrated and basically her hair is always on fire. I'm not downplaying how much trouble our country is in right now, but just because someone isn't talking a mile a minute at 100 decibels, doesn't mean they are "weak tea".

Karma13612

(5,012 posts)
41. Sounds like she took
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 02:41 AM
Aug 2025

The place of Joy Reed then.

but just because someone isn't talking a mile a minute at 100 decibels, doesn't mean they are "weak tea".


That’s what used to drive me nuts about Joy. She had important things to say but her delivery used to wind me up so severely I just couldn’t listen/watch her show. Nicole Wallace’s cadence is more my style.


MadameButterfly

(4,157 posts)
11. He's a lawyer
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:48 PM
Aug 2025

A very good one. That is what he should be doing.
The courts are our best shot to end this everywhere without anyone getting hurt or giving Trump more excuses for martial law.

i understand the problem with that, so we should also be organizing but it needs to be a plan with a long view.
I'll be seeing what Indivisible is up to because they are consulting experts, training people, and making a cohesive plan.

Blaming Dan Goldman for not doing everything isn't going to help. He's doing his part.

I'm tired of Democrats having lower approval ratings than Republicans. Yes, we are frustrated but there isn't an obvious solution. Not everything Dems are doing is getting press. Republicans who could stop this are afraid of Trump's wrath while Democrats are putting themselves on the line. We need to recognize courage.

cachukis

(4,082 posts)
18. The repubs have a powerful proxy machine.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:03 PM
Aug 2025

We are thinty years behind playing by rules.
Not sure we can catch up in a couple of seasons.
The Constitution might be a good frame, but it lacks the luster of lies to the needy.
Symone has spunk, but Goldman has to maintain dignity.
Are we going to sell swill to better our pigs?

gab13by13

(32,767 posts)
23. Project 2025 is ahead of schedule
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:13 PM
Aug 2025

It is going to take the people, including some Magats, working together to throw out the billionaires.

Miles Taylor is on now calling for all types of people, all types of organizations to speak out against authoritarianism, which will lead to a movement.

cachukis

(4,082 posts)
27. Heritage has been working on this for years.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:29 PM
Aug 2025

They are in the factory.
We can only slow it down until a new generation can see the mayhem.
Chances are, we will not see how well they did.

mcar

(46,360 posts)
26. So he wasn't perfect in your eyes
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:20 PM
Aug 2025

on one show. Let’s do another round of “Dems suck.”

BigmanPigman

(55,527 posts)
28. Wrong! We must hit the GOP in multiple ways...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:49 PM
Aug 2025

President Clinton is right. He said that until 2026 we MUST take them to court constantly. That is what some Dems are doing so GOOD for them.

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Others are protesting all over the US in large and small groups and Malcolm Nance said this is another great way to stop MAGA. Nance spoke about the resisters who are protesting across the US fighting back tRump and his agenda and this is exactly what we must continue to do. We can not rely on politicians. We must stand up and fight back but not just in mega rallies like NO KINGS, it must happen consistently. Flash mob protests are working!!!!

pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
32. I thought we were supposed to be supporting Democrats here. Symone goes for ratings,
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:44 PM
Aug 2025

and she probably scored some points. He's trying to do his real job, and that's not all happening in front of the cameras.

aeromanKC

(3,963 posts)
34. Dan Goldman is Democratic Party Superstar!!
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:58 PM
Aug 2025

Not everybody is perfect on every issue. But Dan Goldman is one of the good guys!!!!

writerJT

(467 posts)
35. I heard someone say there's a "blistering letter"
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:13 PM
Aug 2025

being written to Bondi.

So, everyone relax. He’s writing a blistering letter!

🙄🙄🙄

Prairie Gates

(8,479 posts)
36. Let's think outside the box, like, erm, massive peaceful protests!
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:21 PM
Aug 2025

Is there anything more inside the box than that?

Good Lord.

William Gustafson

(557 posts)
38. Sorry to tell you all this....
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:20 PM
Aug 2025

But it's the voters that caused this and it's only the voters that can fix this.... Democrats are not in power, thanks to the voters.. They have no control over what happens, thanks to the voters...
For the voters to now want the Politicians to fix this... they can't... They have no power to bring up bills, no power to stop any of this... It's on us, people...

So, stop it with the circle firing squad.... We must raise our voices to the people that doing all of this... Republicans!... We must protest in the streets... We must make sure our elections are on the up and up with hand recounts if the are not!!!...

It's all up to us!!!

Celerity

(54,878 posts)
42. video
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 03:11 AM
Aug 2025
Rep. Dan Goldman: Republicans are rolling over democracy and allowing Trump to act as a 'fascist dictator'

https://www.msnbc.com/the-weeknight/watch/rep-dan-goldman-republicans-are-rolling-over-democracy-and-allowing-trump-to-act-as-a-fascist-dictator-244934725748

After being denied entry to a Brooklyn facility, Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) sends a direct message to border czar Tom Homan from The Weeknight table about detention center access. He also weighs in on Trump’s power play in Washington, D.C., as the president deploys National Guard and pledges a crime crackdown.
Aug. 14, 2025

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