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bigtree

(94,672 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:21 PM Aug 2025

So, Trump IS offering up Alaska to Putin, after all?

...starting with their minerals.




Tim Hannan @TimHannan 4h
What the fuck? Why is anyone giving anything to Russia? They are 100% the aggressors in this conflict. How can anyone argue Trump isn’t compromised if this happens?

Trump may offer Putin minerals access in exchange for peace, Telegraph reports

Trump is scheduled to meet with Putin in Anchorage, Alaska, on Aug. 15, where discussions are expected to focus on ending the war in Ukraine. According to The Telegraph, Trump plans to present a package of economic proposals aimed at incentivizing the Kremlin to agree to a ceasefire.

The proposal package reportedly involves granting Russia access to Alaska's natural resources and lifting certain U.S. sanctions on Russia's aviation sector, which has struggled under the weight of international sanctions.

Another key element of the proposals includes giving the Kremlin access to rare earth minerals in Ukrainian territories currently under Russian occupation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-may-offer-putin-minerals-access-in-exchange-for-peace-telegraph-reports/ar-AA1KtvNh


...Trump's just giving away things that don't belong to either Russia or the grifter-in-chief as reward for Putin attacking Ukraine and killing thousands.

It's not only appeasement but a weak and cowardly, or complicit, surrender; complete with a gift package of goodies for his boss.

Aug 11, 2025
Trump special envoy Steve Witkoff slammed for misunderstanding Putin’s plan for Ukraine peace: Reports

The concerns follow a three-hour meeting between Witkoff and Putin at the Kremlin last Wednesday, August 6, which sparked a series of events culminating in Trump announcing plans for a one-on-one meeting with the Russian leader in Alaska.

After the meeting, Witkoff, a real estate associate of Trump, briefed European officials on what he claimed were Putin’s ceasefire conditions. According to The Wall Street Journal, which cited unknown sources, Witkoff initially stated that Russia was willing to withdraw from the southern regions of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson in exchange for full control over Donetsk Oblast.

However, the following day, he reportedly gave a different version, claiming Putin would agree to withdraw and freeze the current front lines. In a third account, Witkoff allegedly said Putin wanted Ukraine to withdraw from Donetsk in return for a ceasefire.

According to reporting from German outlet BILD, some believe that Putin referred to a "peaceful withdrawal" from the contested regions of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. Witkoff reportedly interpreted this as Russia agreeing to pull its troops out of those areas.

https://news.meaww.com/trump-special-envoy-steve-witkoff-slammed-for-misunderstanding-putins-plan-for-ukraine-peace-reports



...if you attack and invade a U.S. ally and hit them hard enough, Trump will offer you up a piece of America to stop.
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So, Trump IS offering up Alaska to Putin, after all? (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2025 OP
If this happens, it definitely puts Alaska's Senate seat in play for Democrats next year. Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #1
Why? Dan Aug 2025 #30
Seriously? Is it not obvious that Alaskans will feel totally betrayed by this? Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #33
They'll think of it as owning the libs Orrex Aug 2025 #43
So all the crappy evil things Trump has done Dan Aug 2025 #45
And what is the US getting in return ? kimbutgar Aug 2025 #2
Putin won't release the Epstein files. gab13by13 Aug 2025 #9
The US won't be getting anything, but I bet Trump and his "businesses" get plenty. Midnight Writer Aug 2025 #10
Nothing Johonny Aug 2025 #15
Exactly - Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #25
The Trump Hotel Moscow? (nt) Retrograde Aug 2025 #29
a nobel peace prize mokeyz Aug 2025 #37
"And what is the US getting in return?" LudwigPastorius Aug 2025 #44
A Nobel peace prize NH Ethylene Aug 2025 #62
Does anyone ever expect TSF to do something that would benefit Americans? sinkingfeeling Aug 2025 #3
That made me laugh out loud! JoseBalow Aug 2025 #13
It's the Daily Telegraph. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2025 #4
it's the Trump administration bigtree Aug 2025 #11
hmm... bigtree Aug 2025 #55
If Republicans in Congress don't fight this then newdeal2 Aug 2025 #5
Or Russia has kompromat on them. Efilroft Sul Aug 2025 #6
By Jove, I think you've got it. Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #8
Alaskans who voted for Trump are going to feel betrayed. Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #7
It's too much to hope that in return, the felon would get Putin to stop killing civilian Ukrainians. ancianita Aug 2025 #12
Believe me now. There's a Pee Tape. rickford66 Aug 2025 #14
At this point, after everything he's done MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #46
K&R UTUSN Aug 2025 #16
TSF will do anything for that Peace Prize..including giving away our treasures in Alaska Deuxcents Aug 2025 #17
Also to deflect from the Eptstein files crimycarny Aug 2025 #21
No true American patriot will allow Russians to start mining Alaska. If they want our resources flashman13 Aug 2025 #18
Raising hand tavernier Aug 2025 #50
And I am homegirl Aug 2025 #69
Let's do it! tavernier Aug 2025 #71
True American patriots aren't the problem. whopis01 Aug 2025 #60
It's like he's doing a TV quiz show and giving one of the contestants parting gifts. Liberal In Texas Aug 2025 #19
Only TSF could botch up a McCartney song THIS bad... Montauk6 Aug 2025 #20
Nice reference! johnp3907 Aug 2025 #32
Trump returning Alaska to Russia? I wouldn't be surprised. cstanleytech Aug 2025 #22
Krasnov orangecrush Aug 2025 #23
Swapping Alaska for a Nobel Peace Prize. spanone Aug 2025 #24
You mean the noble prize peace. Solomon Aug 2025 #26
you really mean, the Nobel Pedophile Prize, right? William Gustafson Aug 2025 #38
Fiendishly clever -- no one will ever guess the true intent of the 2 master-leaders. Bwahahaha. Hekate Aug 2025 #27
Traitor Don ! CentralMass Aug 2025 #28
This is more insane than usual Bayard Aug 2025 #31
So first Ukraine has to give us all their rare earths Diraven Aug 2025 #34
So when we need those minerals Figarosmom Aug 2025 #35
Alaska may have a few things to say about this. Can the fed govt even do this? States rights... Amaryllis Aug 2025 #36
States Rights?.... lol.... those days are gone... William Gustafson Aug 2025 #40
I wonder how that would work MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #39
Unconstitutional... LudwigPastorius Aug 2025 #41
Dictator 45 thinks he owns the place - LITERALLY - so he's dealing for himself. rickyhall Aug 2025 #42
Daily Telegraph story corroborated by any other news organization?? NoMoreRepugs Aug 2025 #47
Alaska rso Aug 2025 #54
he ain't denying it bigtree Aug 2025 #61
TACO TACO TACO RainCaster Aug 2025 #48
Oh, so we don't need Greenland anymore? nilram Aug 2025 #49
Being told to help Russia in any way on my job The Madcap Aug 2025 #51
I wouldn't put too much stock into the Daily Telegraph. GP6971 Aug 2025 #52
Does Putin get Sarah Palin? hamsterjill Aug 2025 #53
She'll be appointed back to her old governor job back. Marcuse Aug 2025 #66
Then, she won't be saying she can see Russian from her house. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #67
It's never really been "AMERICA First" with Trump or his cabal. Beartracks Aug 2025 #56
I find this report suspicious. Buddyzbuddy Aug 2025 #57
'not even this administration is that stupid.' bigtree Aug 2025 #58
Oh no, has somebody just taken my reply and proven Buddyzbuddy Aug 2025 #63
Never underestimate his level of stupidity. NH Ethylene Aug 2025 #64
lol bigtree Aug 2025 #65
Selling/giving our goods to a war criminal and our avowed enemy. spanone Aug 2025 #59
Oh what a stellar negotiator! Kablooie Aug 2025 #68
Kompromat works apparently! n/t AntiFascist Aug 2025 #70

Wiz Imp

(10,433 posts)
1. If this happens, it definitely puts Alaska's Senate seat in play for Democrats next year.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:30 PM
Aug 2025

Dan

(5,296 posts)
30. Why?
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:09 PM
Aug 2025

The republicans have shown that they will eat shit for Trump and ask for seconds.

Wiz Imp

(10,433 posts)
33. Seriously? Is it not obvious that Alaskans will feel totally betrayed by this?
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:30 PM
Aug 2025

Alaskans are already totally pissed off by Murkowski's vote for Trump's horrible bill plus other things as well. This will totally piss off a large portion of Alaskan Trump voters. Their loyalty is to Alaska much more so than Trump. Trust me, if Trump follows thru on this, Trump's approval rating in Alaska may sink to the lowest of any state.

Orrex

(67,397 posts)
43. They'll think of it as owning the libs
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:45 PM
Aug 2025

I'm not talking about actual sentient Alaskans here, lest anyone be insulted; I'm talking about his drooling fuckhead kkkultists.

Dan

(5,296 posts)
45. So all the crappy evil things Trump has done
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:49 PM
Aug 2025

When it (potentially) finally directly affects Alaskans then they will turn against the GOP/Trump. All it takes is a direct hit on them. Well, I am happy to hear that their loyalty is to the State more than it is to Trump. Maybe there is hope for some of the Red states.

Thank you for your response.

kimbutgar

(27,558 posts)
2. And what is the US getting in return ?
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:35 PM
Aug 2025

Sounds like a bribe to make Putin stop from exposing the orange pedo felon from spilling the beans on him about his skeletons in his closet.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,356 posts)
25. Exactly -
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:58 PM
Aug 2025

Question : Does putin have a copy of the epstein files ?
If the congressional repugs give anything away to an
enemy that has 1400 nukes on hair trigger pointed at us
then they are standing with russia and not the U.S.

LudwigPastorius

(15,007 posts)
44. "And what is the US getting in return?"
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:47 PM
Aug 2025

Nothing, but Trump thinks a peace deal would finally net him the Nobel that he lusts for more than a 15-year-old beauty pageant contestant.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
55. hmm...
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 05:51 PM
Aug 2025

NBC: Trump doesn't rule out offering Putin Alaska minerals
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/trump-doesn-t-rule-out-offering-putin-minerals-for-peace-244992069878

When asked about offering Putin access to resources in Alaska, Trump said in part: "We're going to see what happens with our meeting. We have a big meeting. It's going to be very important for Russia and very important for us. And important to us since we're trying to save a lot of lives."

He continued, "As far as rare earth, that's very unimportant. I'm trying to save lives."

The White House would not disclose information when asked about the report, telling the Telegraph: "We do not comment on deliberative conversations that may or may not be happening. As the president stated, everyone agrees this war must come to a close, and that is what he is working towards."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-putin-rare-earth-minerals-alaska-update-2113711

...so, what other national resource is Trump offering up to Russia for attacking and invading Ukraine and continuing his deadly bombing all through Trump's supposed diplomacy and refusal to sanction Russia in any way for the military advances made under cover of Trump pretending to negotiate?

Now he says he's going to 'Russia' to 'listen' to Putin??

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-putin-rare-earth-minerals-alaska-update-2113711

...it's only out of their own mouths.

newdeal2

(5,614 posts)
5. If Republicans in Congress don't fight this then
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:49 PM
Aug 2025

Assume they’re on the Trump-Epstein tapes.

Baitball Blogger

(52,725 posts)
7. Alaskans who voted for Trump are going to feel betrayed.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:53 PM
Aug 2025

Cue in the MAGA protesters who will soon be standing shoulder to shoulder with Liberals.

ancianita

(43,364 posts)
12. It's too much to hope that in return, the felon would get Putin to stop killing civilian Ukrainians.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:17 PM
Aug 2025

And maybe even walk away from the Donbas and Crimea.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,744 posts)
46. At this point, after everything he's done
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:54 PM
Aug 2025

and gotten away with, the "pee tape" seems almost quaint.

Deuxcents

(27,715 posts)
17. TSF will do anything for that Peace Prize..including giving away our treasures in Alaska
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:23 PM
Aug 2025

crimycarny

(2,101 posts)
21. Also to deflect from the Eptstein files
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:38 PM
Aug 2025

He's raised crazy to 11 since the DOJ said "nothing to see here" about the Epstein files and the reaction he received wasn't what he hoped.

flashman13

(2,566 posts)
18. No true American patriot will allow Russians to start mining Alaska. If they want our resources
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:30 PM
Aug 2025

they are going to have to fight for them. I'm an old fart, but I'll sign up to go shoot Russians.

tavernier

(14,510 posts)
50. Raising hand
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:16 PM
Aug 2025

They threw my family out of Latvia and that’s why I ended up here 80 years ago. I wouldn’t have any problem pushing Putin out of a window. And trust me, I’m pretty damn strong for an old broad.

tavernier

(14,510 posts)
71. Let's do it!
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:22 AM
Aug 2025

A shot of whiskey, jump on our Harley’s and off to Alaska!
Oh wait… their “talks” ended in a predictable stalemate?

Figures.

Next time, sister!

whopis01

(3,931 posts)
60. True American patriots aren't the problem.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 06:53 PM
Aug 2025

The GOP, MAGA and other Trump supporters are.

Those are very different groups.

Liberal In Texas

(16,431 posts)
19. It's like he's doing a TV quiz show and giving one of the contestants parting gifts.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:35 PM
Aug 2025

He's an idiot.

Montauk6

(9,340 posts)
20. Only TSF could botch up a McCartney song THIS bad...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:36 PM
Aug 2025

"Give 'Laska back to the Russians..."

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
27. Fiendishly clever -- no one will ever guess the true intent of the 2 master-leaders. Bwahahaha.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:03 PM
Aug 2025

Bayard

(30,288 posts)
31. This is more insane than usual
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:20 PM
Aug 2025

Russians on American soil? Taking what they want? That would be a very slippery slope, and its as ignorant as thinking Ukraine has to give up any of their territory.

I don't think even this Congress will go for that.

Diraven

(1,951 posts)
34. So first Ukraine has to give us all their rare earths
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:33 PM
Aug 2025

And then we turn around and give them all to Russia, plus more from Alaska? What kind of deal is that?

Figarosmom

(13,420 posts)
35. So when we need those minerals
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:34 PM
Aug 2025

We'll have to buy them from Russia even though they are ours to begin with?

He is the worst dealer ever. He wants a peace deal so bad because he thinks he'll get the Nobel. But Ukraine is not going to accept anything trump puts forward because he doesn't seem to think giving putin the parts of Ukraine he wants is any big deal.

Amaryllis

(11,430 posts)
36. Alaska may have a few things to say about this. Can the fed govt even do this? States rights...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:35 PM
Aug 2025

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,744 posts)
39. I wonder how that would work
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:41 PM
Aug 2025

Will Russian workers come to Alaska to mine it and ship it, or whatever, or will Americans be expected to work for Putin?

JFC!

LudwigPastorius

(15,007 posts)
41. Unconstitutional...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:43 PM
Aug 2025

The Commerce Clause makes it clear that the president doesn't have the power to give away our resources to a foreign country.

The only way Trump could do it would be by treaty, which would be slapped down in the Senate. (even with a good number of his cultists holding seats there)

I believe the public backlash against such a deal would be so great that it's a nonstarter.

rickyhall

(5,510 posts)
42. Dictator 45 thinks he owns the place - LITERALLY - so he's dealing for himself.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:45 PM
Aug 2025

We've got to stop him before he sells it all.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,230 posts)
47. Daily Telegraph story corroborated by any other news organization??
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:57 PM
Aug 2025

If true hard to argue VonSchitzInPants isn’t Phootie’s bitch.

rso

(2,682 posts)
54. Alaska
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:57 PM
Aug 2025

I looked, and there’s no corroboration, except for several outlets quoting the Telegraph’s reporting.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
61. he ain't denying it
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 06:53 PM
Aug 2025

...can you imagine any other president hesitating to shoot down an appeasement like that?

Not this guy...

NBC: Trump doesn't rule out offering Putin Alaska minerals
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/trump-doesn-t-rule-out-offering-putin-minerals-for-peace-244992069878

When asked about offering Putin access to resources in Alaska, Trump said in part: "We're going to see what happens with our meeting. We have a big meeting. It's going to be very important for Russia and very important for us. And important to us since we're trying to save a lot of lives."

He continued, "As far as rare earth, that's very unimportant. I'm trying to save lives."

The White House would not disclose information when asked about the report, telling the Telegraph: "We do not comment on deliberative conversations that may or may not be happening. As the president stated, everyone agrees this war must come to a close, and that is what he is working towards."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-putin-rare-earth-minerals-alaska-update-2113711


...Alaska's republican guv was sidling up to the idea today:

Alaska Governor Mike Dunleavy has expressed to Newsweek his hopes for "a just peace" to emerge from the upcoming summit his state will host between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, along with positive outcomes that could arise from improving ties between Washington and Moscow.

The interview came just hours after Trump wouldn't rule out reports that he was considering striking a deal with his Russian counterpart that would include offer Russia access to Alaska's wealth of rare earth minerals.

Dunleavy, a Republican, noted that both nations have access to rare earths and that, "we have a lot of investors looking at Alaska," home to "a robust and growing mining sector we've had for some time."

https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-governor-weighs-ahead-trump-putin-summit-2113773

RainCaster

(13,888 posts)
48. TACO TACO TACO
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:02 PM
Aug 2025

That pussy always chickens out. Once again, he will give away our country.

The Madcap

(2,037 posts)
51. Being told to help Russia in any way on my job
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:22 PM
Aug 2025

Will be an immediate retirement trigger. Not going to do it. Screw 'em.

hamsterjill

(17,760 posts)
67. Then, she won't be saying she can see Russian from her house.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:02 PM
Aug 2025

She'll be saying that Russia is in my house!!! Guffaw! Guffaw!!

All kidding aside, you're probably right. She'll be put in charge of keeping Pootie happy.

Beartracks

(14,653 posts)
56. It's never really been "AMERICA First" with Trump or his cabal.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 06:02 PM
Aug 2025

Their policies and priorities only seems to hurt America's global standing, America's economy, America's citizens... It's almost like America is not the intended beneficiary.

===============

Buddyzbuddy

(2,911 posts)
57. I find this report suspicious.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 06:28 PM
Aug 2025

Why would anybody talk about what they're ready to "give up" as an incentive before negotiations? Not even this administration is that stupid.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
58. 'not even this administration is that stupid.'
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 06:40 PM
Aug 2025

...Speaking on Kilmeade’s radio show on Thursday morning, Trump also acknowledged he was considering a range of “incentives and disincentives” to secure a deal to end the war in Ukraine.
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/fox-host-straight-up-tells-trump-i-know-youre-a-big-athlete-in-new-interview-you-not-only-watch-sports-you-play-sports/

KILMEADE: So the one thing that some people have said is, the incentive that could get his attention is economic incentives. Are you walking in that room with economic incentives for Russia in order to stop the fighting?

TRUMP: Well, I’d rather not say because I don’t want to play my hand in public, but whatever my hand is, economic incentives. And disincentives maybe are more important in a way, but incentives economically.

Russia’s got a tremendous potential. They have the largest piece of land by far.

KILMEADE: Right.

TRUMP: It’s massive. It’s got great wealth on it.

(CROSSTALK)

KILMEADE: But all they do is oil. All they do is oil and gas. They can’t even grow — they can’t even farm.

TRUMP: Well, but that’s OK. Oil and gas is a very profitable business.

KILMEADE: Yes.

TRUMP: That’s better than I make shirts, T-shirts.

(LAUGHTER)

TRUMP: Oil and gas, if you say that’s all they do, if you’re going to have one business, that’s good. That’s the business to have, and they have it.

So, they have a lot of advantages going over most countries, because of the fact they have oil and gas at massive numbers, like we do. And, yes, economic — economic sanctions are very powerful and economic incentives are very powerful, both.

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/fox-host-straight-up-tells-trump-i-know-youre-a-big-athlete-in-new-interview-you-not-only-watch-sports-you-play-sports/


Buddyzbuddy

(2,911 posts)
63. Oh no, has somebody just taken my reply and proven
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 07:03 PM
Aug 2025

that this Administration and the Felon are that stupid?
Boy, I'm so embarrassed. NOT.
Thank you, bigtree.

Kablooie

(19,121 posts)
68. Oh what a stellar negotiator!
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:20 PM
Aug 2025

Just give someone rights to your country's extremely valuable resources that will allow him to compete with you, to make him stop doing something that hurts your public image.
Genius -- Trump style.

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