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jonstl08

(576 posts)
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:31 AM Aug 2025

Trumps Alaska Meeting

Does anybody else see this meeting of Trump and Putin being similar to the Neville Chamberlain and Hitler meeting in Munich in 1938 where Chamberlain gave Hitler the Sudetenland.

1) In 1938 Czechoslovakia which the Sudetenland was part of was not invited. Ukraine PM Zelensky is not going to be there,
2) Sudetenland was primarily German speaking. Ukraine is Russian Speaking
3) reports are saying trump will let Putin keep some parts of the territory he already controls. Hitler never controlled the Sudetenland but it bordered Germany.
4) Ukraine is rich in Minerals and reports are saying Trump is going to give Putin access to them. Czechoslovakia was rich in coal which Hitler needed for his war machine.

Feel Trump is making the same mistake Chamberlain did. Putin is not going to stop until he controls all of Ukraine.

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Trumps Alaska Meeting (Original Post) jonstl08 Aug 2025 OP
chamberlain made a mistake lapfog_1 Aug 2025 #1
He is doing what his master tells him. 58Sunliner Aug 2025 #2
TACO Don is itching for a NOBEL Prize for Peace. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2025 #3
He is jealous of Obama jonstl08 Aug 2025 #4
So true. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2025 #5
Very interesting comparison karynnj Aug 2025 #6
It could be a bidding war if Elon shows up. usonian Aug 2025 #7
Trump said he was going to Russia, not Alaska. Emile Aug 2025 #8
I dreamed last night the Army arrested both of them. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #9
A meeting of two, narcissistic psychopaths will not favor Ukraine. Septua Aug 2025 #10

58Sunliner

(6,418 posts)
2. He is doing what his master tells him.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:35 AM
Aug 2025

Maybe Iran will intercede and negotiate him off the cliff, so to speak.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,984 posts)
3. TACO Don is itching for a NOBEL Prize for Peace.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:38 AM
Aug 2025

It is so obvious...

His reasoning.."I brokered a deal for peace in Ukraine! Give it to me, NOW!"

jonstl08

(576 posts)
4. He is jealous of Obama
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:43 AM
Aug 2025

He such a fragile person and jealous because so many people feel Obama was a better President than him plus a good dose of racism. His narcissism cannot handle it. Feels Obama received one so should he.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,984 posts)
5. So true.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:46 AM
Aug 2025

Pettiness drove him to remove his WH portrait to an obscure spot so that visitors would not see it, but ALL know that Barack Obama was POTUS #44 for 8 consecutive years.

karynnj

(61,094 posts)
6. Very interesting comparison
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 09:17 AM
Aug 2025

As you note, there are many points of similarity.

My first thought is that the comparison is a great frame for Democrats to use because it is accurate and in retrospect it was a bad deal. ( The only defense I ever read was that when it happened, Britain was not prepared for war and they then increased their preparedness. Whether that was true, it is absolutely not in the case of Ukraine.)

That said, I wonder if anything WWII is ancient history to many born as much as 50 years later. I have been surprised at how fascism has become almost less negative a word than socialism. Having been born in 1950, fascists, who we helped defeat, were the first enemy we learned about.

usonian

(26,596 posts)
7. It could be a bidding war if Elon shows up.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 09:47 AM
Aug 2025

For the you know what files. The secret part.



Kid Berwyn

(25,110 posts)
9. I dreamed last night the Army arrested both of them.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 09:53 AM
Aug 2025

"Locked" up our troubles in an old kit bag.

Smile. Smile. Smile.

Septua

(2,964 posts)
10. A meeting of two, narcissistic psychopaths will not favor Ukraine.
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 10:19 AM
Aug 2025

Putin is adamant about taking part or all of Ukraine, at any cost to Russia or Ukraine.

Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize and a Trump Hotel in Moscow. Trump also desperately needs a distraction from his failed and failing, Presidential agenda.

And neither of the two give a damn about Zelenskyy or the people of Ukraine.



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