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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCalifornia voters widely prefer keeping independent redistricting panel: Poll
California voters widely prefer keeping the states independent redistricting commission, new polling shows, as Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) threatens to bypass it to counter GOP gerrymandering in other states.
A Politico-Citrin Center-Possibility Lab survey found 36 percent of California voters support returning congressional redistricting authority to the state Legislature, compared to 64 percent who back the independent redistricting commission.
Newsom has pledged to move forward with plans for redistricting in the Golden State as a direct response to Republican-led redrawing efforts elsewhere.
President Trump and others in the GOP have been urging several red states to do mid-decade redistricting and expand the partys midterm pickup opportunities. In Texas, state Democrats fled to break quorum this month over a proposal that would net five GOP House seats.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5451810-california-voters-back-independent-redistricting/
Mz Pip
(28,510 posts)But whats at stake far outweighs my preference. If I had my preference, the whole country would do away with gerrymandering.
Unfortunately, thats never going to happen.
We have to be able to play the cards we were dealt.
DSandra
(1,726 posts)As Republicans cheat and trample everything America has left. Fascism is the Ragnarok of democracy.
flamingdem
(40,980 posts)does not state the matter correctly.
You do!
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GoodRaisin
(11,062 posts)now and November. This is an all hands on deck issue. Clearly there is much work to do.
JBTaurus83
(1,679 posts)CA office will need to be out speaking to the public about this issue.
FBaggins
(28,763 posts)We lost by almost exactly the proportions implied in this poll.
Sure the Hill
GoodRaisin
(11,062 posts)They have to be made to understand their reality vs. their ideal world. Those saying no do not understand. When they do, Democrats should turn out to vote the same way Californians turn out to vote for presidents.
Nimble_Idea
(2,849 posts)is truly fucked.
and I will wish you all the fucking best. I will then be with Tim Apples and bless your hearts.
FBaggins
(28,763 posts)The average loss in the House for the president's party in a mid-term election is 25 seats... and this guy is a long way from the popularity of normal presidents.
Jack Valentino
(5,252 posts)to be a LOT more than five seats---
and the five seats Texas has drawn which they expect to go Republican
are dependent upon hispanic voters who went for Trump in 2024 to
vote for the Republican congressional candidate in 2026--
that is NOT a given, and according to current polls, is seeming unlikely!
Meanwhile, Texas Republicans have weakened other Republican districts to draw these 5---
they may have just drawn a "dummy-mander" which will backfire on them in Texas---
and their actions have infuriated Democratic voters nationwide, which should increase the backlash voting...
All is NOT "lost" at this point, and it is counter-productive to say that it is.
DemocratSinceBirth
(102,012 posts)FBaggins
(28,763 posts)They should just push the justice of offsetting TX's move and that's it's just a temporary process change handing the legislature control that will revert to the commission with the next census. Then the legislature can act after the vote succeeds.
Putting out a 49-3 map just hands ammunition to the opposition (which will not be limited to the right wing).
DemocratSinceBirth
(102,012 posts)When one party gerrymanders anywhere, it dilutes the power of votes everywhere.
MichMan
(17,396 posts)Most if not all are gerrymandered
Midwestern Democrat
(1,031 posts)be a difficult sell to anyone other than very partisan Democrats - there's not a single objective person in California who honestly thinks the GOP's current 17% share of the House seats is too much representation - in comparison Trump got 38% of the vote in the 2024 presidential election and Steve Garvey got 41% in the Senate election.
David__77
(24,860 posts)If people think those few seats will change control in Congress theyre largely going to vote based on who they want to control Congress, regardless of their ideal good government thinking.
FBaggins
(28,763 posts)You have to ask yourself why they did that (with the DNC, state legislature, and democrats in Congress opposing). Then ask which options are most likely to alleviate those concerns.
Because we lost big the last time we tried this.
David__77
(24,860 posts)For instance the post-2000 redistricting was pretty Republican-friendly even with Democrats fully in control. Apparently, incumbent protection was the main motivator, even with term limits in place.
I dont think voters viewed the choice in a partisan lens when this passed, and indeed it didnt hurt Democrats.
MichMan
(17,396 posts)FBaggins
(28,763 posts)While the voters of California overwhelmingly support Democrats (at least as compared to republicans)... they have also overwhelmingly opposed the legislature drawing the political lines (even when Democrats tell them that it's essential).
We have a little less than three months to convince them that this scenario is uniquely important enough to change their minds. The good news is that some progress appears to have been made. I saw a statement today from Common Cause (expected to oppose the move) that seemed like they could support it.
The Bopper
(317 posts)They fight like the Viet Cong, were supposed to be Neville Chamberlain. If you want purity, youll have to tell us the date and time we will surrender, because nothing in politics is ever pure.
RandySF
(86,306 posts)tritsofme
(19,933 posts)SSJVegeta
(3,144 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)
Its an actual proposed series of maps that people will vote on.
gab13by13
(32,789 posts)Posting shit from it probably comes from Russia, IMO.
Newsom only wants to gerrymander temporarily. He would like to go back to the independent commission when the playing field is leveled.
Who the hell conducted this poll? Big Balls? If Californians want to lose their democracy they have been propagandized.
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