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edhopper

(37,395 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:16 AM Aug 2025

J K Rowling and her transphobia, why?

She is a billionaire with millions of fans who wrote beloved books. She could take on so many causes that would do good and uplift many.
But she decides her cause celeb would be attacking trans women (she doesn't seem to have a problem with trans men).
Why? Why such spend so much effort on something that is none of her fucking business and has no impact on people (except the people she attacks).
She could do good works, or sit back and enjoy her success. Why this petty, hateful obsession?

BTW, This funny piece is what made me think of this.

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-thrilled-to-announce-ive-been-cast-as-stickles-the-gender-policing-elf-in-hbo-maxs-new-harry-potter-series

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J K Rowling and her transphobia, why? (Original Post) edhopper Aug 2025 OP
Fear of "the other". And it could be now she is rich, she can afford the luxury of letting her own demons out. marble falls Aug 2025 #1
Anti-social tendencies. She is quite trollish. David__77 Aug 2025 #2
Might explain a lot of her writing EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #8
Kid abandons abusive family. usedtobedemgurl Aug 2025 #16
But the family is 'real' in the literary sense EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #24
I don't see that in the books. yardwork Aug 2025 #29
Have you read her murder mysteries with PI Cormoran Strike, Ilsa Aug 2025 #49
I have not read them. yardwork Aug 2025 #52
Yeah. He should have been broken enough usedtobedemgurl Aug 2025 #38
That happens IRL every day EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #40
Seriously? MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #43
I'm genuinely shocked. yardwork Aug 2025 #44
So kids shouldn't read fiction? Or read Ilsa Aug 2025 #50
You apparently never read the books mcar Aug 2025 #20
Got me there EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #26
Maybe you shouldn't be making mcar Aug 2025 #35
'Maybe you shouldn't'... EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #36
Swiss was a weird autocorrect mcar Aug 2025 #37
This is not the hill on which anyone should want to die EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #69
The books are actually very well plotted. viva la Aug 2025 #60
Because she's a petty, hateful bigot. It's not that deep. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #3
Yet her books were about the outcast edhopper Aug 2025 #5
There was a LOT of bigotry in her books. Antisemitic tropes, racism, misogyny and ethnic bigotry. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #7
I've always wondered if she recognized it. yardwork Aug 2025 #10
Thanks edhopper Aug 2025 #11
Well...a lot of that garbage made it into the movies as well. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #14
Probably edhopper Aug 2025 #15
Look up the name of the Black student. yardwork Aug 2025 #25
Once you've reached billionaire status Conjuay Aug 2025 #30
I don't get it Bettie Aug 2025 #4
Money makes good people better and bad people worse. CincyDem Aug 2025 #9
Wealth and power tend to expose one's inner self...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2025 #18
What is she on about now? EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #6
No edhopper Aug 2025 #12
OK EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #21
according to some edhopper Aug 2025 #22
Some have seen it when it applied to the goblins of that universe sakabatou Aug 2025 #64
Robert Galbraith might have some thoughts on the matter unblock Aug 2025 #13
My thoughts exactly. The biggest bullies are hiding their own insecurities. Doodley Aug 2025 #27
I've seen people use pseudonyms before, such as K.A. Applegate sakabatou Aug 2025 #65
That just her initials, which jk Rowling already did. unblock Aug 2025 #68
Her other pen name? I've only heard of it sakabatou Aug 2025 #71
My family loved the Harry Potter books but we will not long watch or read any of her work LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #17
JKR has basically been sucked into the TERF / Right Wing Grifter Twitter vortex. Oneironaut Aug 2025 #19
I don't think one gets sucked into a hateful cult by accident. yardwork Aug 2025 #31
THANK YOU Skittles Aug 2025 #55
I think the term "terf" is misapplied here. She's all "te" not much "rf" at all. unblock Aug 2025 #73
She hates trans people. Iggo Aug 2025 #23
the question is WHY does she hate trans folk Skittles Aug 2025 #56
Born that way, I guess. Iggo Aug 2025 #63
but she is someone who could use her influence in an admirable way Skittles Aug 2025 #67
She could have been...if she wasn't a hateful piece of shit. Iggo Aug 2025 #72
My dirty little secret - somethingshiny Aug 2025 #28
Money doesn't buy tolerance tinrobot Aug 2025 #32
I don't really know what her transphobic views are. I haven't read them. maxsolomon Aug 2025 #33
She consistently misgenders women, both transgender women and women who just look too male muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #47
Yeah, never got the R part of TERF. maxsolomon Aug 2025 #48
Wife and I had long discussion on this because it does seem weird JT45242 Aug 2025 #34
I think your wife has a point leftstreet Aug 2025 #39
You're describing TERFs maxsolomon Aug 2025 #46
Thank you for sharing your & your wife's perspective. It is compassionate & shows insight. Hekate Aug 2025 #62
Why are *any* of them that way? Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #41
Its a weird form of hyper feminism Johonny Aug 2025 #42
She's a Slytherin. Efilroft Sul Aug 2025 #45
That being said, Slytherin does NOT mean you're going to be exclusionary sakabatou Aug 2025 #66
very happy I never contributed to her wealth Skittles Aug 2025 #51
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #53
This would be funny edhopper Aug 2025 #54
Fuck outta here with that incoherent hateful shit. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #57
Our resident troll? yardwork Aug 2025 #58
nah someone who's got a few hundred posts. But this was a bad one. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #59
some people are just black hearted bags of misery and hate Takket Aug 2025 #61
Rowling's been characterized as a social media troll in a reply above. That's what she is. Emrys Aug 2025 #70

marble falls

(72,044 posts)
1. Fear of "the other". And it could be now she is rich, she can afford the luxury of letting her own demons out.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:21 AM
Aug 2025

David__77

(24,833 posts)
2. Anti-social tendencies. She is quite trollish.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:26 AM
Aug 2025

The anti-social tendencies may not underlie her basic ideology, they do underlie her approach.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,060 posts)
16. Kid abandons abusive family.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 10:00 AM
Aug 2025

Chooses kind folks over folks that hate him and treat him like dirt. He would have been broken to not make such a healthy choice.

EYESORE 9001

(29,807 posts)
24. But the family is 'real' in the literary sense
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:08 AM
Aug 2025

The magical world could be seen as a fugue from reality, a coping mechanism.

yardwork

(69,461 posts)
29. I don't see that in the books.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:55 AM
Aug 2025

The magical world is presented as a parallel world and could be interpreted as a metaphor for marginalized people living courageous lives. Unfortunately, that message is undermined in the books themselves and certainly in the author's public words.

There's no suggestion that the children with magical powers are escaping into a fantasy world. They are described as having been born with magical powers or not - each belonging to one world or the other.

Right away one sees some problems with this "sorting" metaphor and the books run with that problematic message.

It's a near miss. She could have written books that celebrated the choices people make to live their real authentic lives. She could have celebrated trans people embracing their identities, gay people embracing authentic lives, people of all colors and backgrounds celebrating both differences and similarities. That would have been woke.

Instead she leaned into stereotypes, judgments, and an old-fashioned view of morality that relies, ultimately, on white Anglo male supremacy.

Too bad.

Ilsa

(64,429 posts)
49. Have you read her murder mysteries with PI Cormoran Strike,
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 07:50 PM
Aug 2025

or have you seen the series on HBO? Pretty well-written characters, IMO.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,060 posts)
38. Yeah. He should have been broken enough
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 01:45 PM
Aug 2025

To stay with his abusive relatives who locked him up and refused to treat him decently.

EYESORE 9001

(29,807 posts)
40. That happens IRL every day
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 01:59 PM
Aug 2025

Escaping to an idyllic wonderland to practice magic? Not so often. I feel sorry for any children who experienced false hope from fantasy.

Ilsa

(64,429 posts)
50. So kids shouldn't read fiction? Or read
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 07:58 PM
Aug 2025

magical stories about, for example, dragons or msybe talking animals? Or siblings escaping the blitzkrieg when they wander into a wardrobe and enter a different world?

A mature, strong female witch named Hermione saves the day as much as Harry, BTW.

EYESORE 9001

(29,807 posts)
26. Got me there
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:14 AM
Aug 2025

Barely seen bits of the movies. Well, maybe half of the first one. I know all I need to know about the franchise. I was around 40 when books and film came out, and my kids weren’t into it. I don’t take it as an insult. My reading time was too precious to spend reading (pre)adolescent fiction. Guilty as charged.

mcar

(46,169 posts)
35. Maybe you shouldn't be making
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 12:52 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Fri Aug 15, 2025, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

declarations about the books that aren’t true, then.

mcar

(46,169 posts)
37. Swiss was a weird autocorrect
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 01:42 PM
Aug 2025

Vaguely authoritarian? Wow!

I'm not out there making pronouncements about books I haven't read.

EYESORE 9001

(29,807 posts)
69. This is not the hill on which anyone should want to die
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 06:59 AM
Aug 2025

Please don’t mention this book again to me until I’ve utterly devoured it before announcing an opinion about it. IOW, I’ll never read it. Sayonara

viva la

(4,610 posts)
60. The books are actually very well plotted.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:27 PM
Aug 2025

Excellent stories. Thematically coherent.
Why she decided to destroy her reputation and legacy with this mean crusade, I'll never understand. I used to use her books in my teaching, but no more.

I don't hate the art because of the artist (I still read Pound, and he was quite literally a fascist). But it's easier to ignore when they're dead.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,074 posts)
7. There was a LOT of bigotry in her books. Antisemitic tropes, racism, misogyny and ethnic bigotry.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:31 AM
Aug 2025

The poor white male was the outcast.

yardwork

(69,461 posts)
25. Look up the name of the Black student.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:09 AM
Aug 2025

There's also a lot of fat shaming in the books.

Honestly, it's a mix. The books contain positive messages about kindness, courage and perseverance. But the mocking names the author gives many characters, her relentless picking on overweight characters, and several other problematic issues undermine her positive messages. They reinforce the bullying she claims to hate.

My biggest problem with the books, though, is that they're not at all original. Whole scenes and characters are pulled from 150 years of British fantasy fiction. It's one thing to pay homage, but what she did is more akin to using AI to write a fantasy series. And the later books are much too long and boring. Yes, I read them all.

Bettie

(19,781 posts)
4. I don't get it
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:29 AM
Aug 2025

but, I wonder if becoming wealthy makes people think they have "earned" the right to dictate to others how they live.

Wealth seems to create monsters.

EYESORE 9001

(29,807 posts)
6. What is she on about now?
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:30 AM
Aug 2025

Hadn’t given her and her transphobia much thought lately. Did she say something recently?

edhopper

(37,395 posts)
12. No
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:39 AM
Aug 2025

just a thought I had this morning. From a joke I saw online about Harry Potter and transphobia.

EYESORE 9001

(29,807 posts)
21. OK
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 10:59 AM
Aug 2025

I would like to start punishing these billionaires who have plans for everyone. Ms. Rowling bites the hand that feeds her with those rants. The franchise she created isn’t consumed by as vast an audience as it once did. If her hateful rhetoric ever finds its way into her work, I hope it ends her popularity and income streams.

sakabatou

(46,202 posts)
64. Some have seen it when it applied to the goblins of that universe
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:06 PM
Aug 2025

How they were in charge of the banks, how they made deals, etc.

What I think is kind of funny, that many have thought that Rowling saw herself as Hermione, but turned into Umbridge instead.

unblock

(56,222 posts)
13. Robert Galbraith might have some thoughts on the matter
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 09:40 AM
Aug 2025

She's explained why she used a pseudonym, but she obviously could have used a woman's name. To my knowledge she has not addressed why she chose to present herself as a man.

Her stated goal was to let her works succeed or fail on their own merits, but then a woman's name would seem more logical. If she just wanted to appropriate some male privilege (perhaps male authors are taken more seriously?) that would seem to undermine the mission to let her works succeed or fail on their own merit.

Generally speaking, bigotry is far more popular than the inner torment theory would suggest, but asking the world to see her as a man was an interesting choice for her. So maybe it applies in this case,

sakabatou

(46,202 posts)
65. I've seen people use pseudonyms before, such as K.A. Applegate
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:09 PM
Aug 2025

She wrote Animorphs, but I haven't heard about her at all since the series finished.

unblock

(56,222 posts)
68. That just her initials, which jk Rowling already did.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 01:54 AM
Aug 2025

And I have no problem with authors using pseudonyms, only noting that an anti-trans crusader using that to create a differently gendered persona for herself is peculiar.

Oneironaut

(6,307 posts)
19. JKR has basically been sucked into the TERF / Right Wing Grifter Twitter vortex.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 10:11 AM
Aug 2025

She had Trans Exclusive views before that were problematic. Now, she has been unfortunately sucked into the Twitter TERF / right wing grifter vortex. She is now encouraging people to harass, video record, and publicly harass trans people. Her posts have gotten increasingly more angry and dehumanizing of trans people.

Twitter encourages radicalization by providing positive feedback for increasingly black and white thinking. JKR’s anti-trans posts were and are encouraged by more engagement, likes, retweets, etc.

yardwork

(69,461 posts)
31. I don't think one gets sucked into a hateful cult by accident.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 12:02 PM
Aug 2025

People choose to watch Fox News and get sucked deeper, but there's that crucial first five minutes. Do you like it or not? Five minutes of Fox News leaves me literally feeling ill. Others want more.

I doubt Rowling was just minding her own business living a happily inclusive and affirming life and accidentally fell into TERFdom. It's not like falling down a manhole. One has to walk in. That's a choice.

I agree that once one is in it just gets worse and worse as one's worst inclinations are reinforced. Ugh. It's vile to think of.

I'm so sorry there are people like this spewing hatred and poison. I don't know what's wrong with them. There's nothing wrong with you!

Skittles

(172,134 posts)
55. THANK YOU
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 08:54 PM
Aug 2025

I still remember the first time I watched a Fox News segment, when it first aired - I remember thinking that's a lie, that's out of context, that's misleading. that's bullshit - five fucking minutes was ALL it took to figure out it was pure fucking crap.

unblock

(56,222 posts)
73. I think the term "terf" is misapplied here. She's all "te" not much "rf" at all.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:13 PM
Aug 2025

I read the Harry Potter series before I knew about her hateful views. Now that I know, I don't read anything from her (or him as Robert Galbraith).
So maybe there's something that qualifies as radical feminism in there, but all I ever hear about is trans exclusion.

Iggo

(49,971 posts)
63. Born that way, I guess.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 10:47 PM
Aug 2025

I’m only half kidding.

The fact is, I don’t care anymore why people are hateful pieces of shit. They just are. (As comedian Bret Butler once said, “I hate bigots so much that I am one.”)

Skittles

(172,134 posts)
67. but she is someone who could use her influence in an admirable way
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:42 AM
Aug 2025

the fact that she doesn't speaks volumes

somethingshiny

(75 posts)
28. My dirty little secret -
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:38 AM
Aug 2025

I really enjoy her CB Strike series, written under the Robert Galbraith pseudonym.
But totally agree that her social views are appalling.

maxsolomon

(38,912 posts)
33. I don't really know what her transphobic views are. I haven't read them.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 12:10 PM
Aug 2025

I know she's called a TERF, which seems like a distinct type of transphobia.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,345 posts)
47. She consistently misgenders women, both transgender women and women who just look too male
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 07:13 PM
Aug 2025

for Rowling's liking - eg the Algerian boxer Imane Khelif (who has always been a woman). She bankrolls the organizations saying assigned sex at birth should be the only basis for calling anyone a woman or female (although that would mean Khelif is a woman to her).

She's certainly trans-exclusionary (she doesn't want any protections for women to be applicable to transgender women); I'm not sure if her feminist views can be called "radical".

JT45242

(4,061 posts)
34. Wife and I had long discussion on this because it does seem weird
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 12:23 PM
Aug 2025

I enjoyed the books. The parts about SPEW (house elf enslavement) and racial prejudices (pure bloods vs all others) seem to show a progressive stance. She went out of her way to make the smartest and most capable young character a woman. Yes, Harry is the hero but Hermione is "the most clever witch of her age"

But my wife said this -- That Rowling is so concerned that no one infringe on advancement for women that she considers trans women to be a threat to women. Her vitriol is almost exclusively pointed at people who were born male and then transition to female. She views them as attacking the advances that women have made over the last few decades.

I remember one of my best friends in college saying that in the LGBU at college, that those three groups really did not understand trans people in the late 1980s and early 1990s. They weren't hostile, they just did not understand. Eventually, it went from confusion to acceptance to support.

But JK who was pro LGB rights seems decades behind her other views on the transgender issue.

My wife thinks that it comes from some trauma from a man -- ex-husband, molester or rapist earlier, or whatever -- that she cannot see past her own trauma to accept transfolks.

It makes sense that this is almost a PTSD lash out but I doubt it was a trans individual who hurt her. Since it would be about the only incidence of it ever. But, I could believe she was raped by a cis-gender male in a bathroom and that is why it is such a hot button object for her.

I wish she would get some therapy and stop saying hateful things.


leftstreet

(41,050 posts)
39. I think your wife has a point
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 01:52 PM
Aug 2025

(and I speak as someone who hasn't followed a lot of this)

I remember when she first made feminist statements about protecting women's advancement, spaces, etc.

She didn't seem to understand the backlash she got from that, and I wonder if she turned to and embraced the support of a screaming "culture" that was very, very transphobic. And that possibly led to her saying even dumber, more offensive things.

I don't know

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
62. Thank you for sharing your & your wife's perspective. It is compassionate & shows insight.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 10:46 PM
Aug 2025
 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
41. Why are *any* of them that way?
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 02:25 PM
Aug 2025

The causes of bigotry are many and elusive.

I don't see what wealth or celebrity have to do with it, either. Indeed, either could easily exacerbate it, as they could make a bigot feel their voice is more powerful. Right-wingers always say outspoken liberal celebrities should stay in their lane (wherever that is), so it stands to reason...

The difference being, of course, they're wrong. Always.

Johonny

(26,336 posts)
42. Its a weird form of hyper feminism
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 03:36 PM
Aug 2025

Note, she appears to either not know trans men exist or doesn't care because it doesn't register with her deep seeded need to defend womanhood from things not actually threatening womanhood.

sakabatou

(46,202 posts)
66. That being said, Slytherin does NOT mean you're going to be exclusionary
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:16 PM
Aug 2025

IIRC, Slughorn, a Slytherin, was no bigot.

Response to edhopper (Original post)

Emrys

(9,166 posts)
70. Rowling's been characterized as a social media troll in a reply above. That's what she is.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 07:30 AM
Aug 2025

The distasteful aspects of her online persona are nothing new, and I don't believe they came from any outside influence.

My partner, who's an old-school feminist but generally had better sense than to waste her time on the darker reaches of social media, commented once that she'd heard that poor Rowling was being picked on online. I replied that a few years ago (before I lost patience and paid Rowling no more attention than I could avoid, a process that took very little time), Rowling regularly unleashed her online fanbase (who are generally nutty and rabid) on any online person, large or small, with whom she'd had a disagreement, so such sympathy was severely misplaced.

Those fans would then persecute whoever it was en masse and relentlessly. She was directing packs of small-minded, merciless bullies to do her dirty work, and knew full well how it would pan out. Her fans, modelling themselves on her, set about the task gleefully with cries of "Slay, Queen!" and similar inanity.

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