Just a reminder to those who may not be aware, the Democratic Socialists of America, (DSA), blamed the

[lostincalifornia]

US and NATO for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and called for the US to withdraw from NATO.

I bring this up because of the meeting going on between trump and putin in Alaska.

https://international.dsausa.org/statements/dsa-says-no-to-nato/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/08/nyregion/dsa-nato-ukraine-russia.html

"DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict. We call on antiwar activists in the US and across the world to oppose violent escalations, demand a lasting diplomatic solution, and stress the crucial need to accept any and all refugees resulting from this crisis. Much of the next ten years are coming into view through this attack. While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative."

https://www.dsausa.org/statements/on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/

[Shellback Squid]

1. link?

[lostincalifornia]

2. It isn't hidden. Just google it. This isn't new.

https://international.dsausa.org/statements/dsa-says-no-to-nato/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/08/nyregion/dsa-nato-ukraine-russia.html

"DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict. We call on antiwar activists in the US and across the world to oppose violent escalations, demand a lasting diplomatic solution, and stress the crucial need to accept any and all refugees resulting from this crisis. Much of the next ten years are coming into view through this attack. While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative."
of
https://www.dsausa.org/statements/on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/

I don't care what double talk they push, they are apologists for the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and if anyone remembers, President Biden worked before that Russian invasion to try to prevent it diplomatically, while Putin was pushing how they had no intentions of invading Ukraine. Which shortly afterwards proved false.

Even day before this Alaskan summit, putin launched a barrage of missiles at Ukraine.

There are a lot of naive people in the world.

[soldierant]

39. "There are a lot of naive people in the world."

Boy, isn't that the truth.

I can deplore the empire-building tactics used by the US, including some even today, and still see that NATO is not one of them. Pulling out of NATO would throw every NATO member to the wolves - not just Ukraine. And that includes us.

[electric_blue68]

66. just got here.. I agree w this...was thinking of saying something similar. You covered it. 👍

[al bupp]

152. Your excerpt is taken out of context

This statement precedes the one you've shared. Leaving it out is somewhat disingenuous as it clearly shows that DSA does not support Russia's aggression in any way.

The Democratic Socialists of America condemns Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and demands immediate diplomacy and de-escalation to resolve this crisis. We stand in solidarity with the working classes of Ukraine and Russia who will undoubtedly bear the brunt of this war, and with antiwar protestors in both countries and around the world who are calling for a diplomatic resolution.

This extreme and asymmetrical escalation is an illegal act under the United Nations Charter and severely threatens the livelihoods and well-being of working-class peoples in Ukraine, Russia, and across the region. We urge an immediate ceasefire and the total withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine.

[delisen]

156. Thanks for the full statement by DSA.It makes a great difference. nt

[Crunchy Frog]

175. It's meaningless.

The truth is that "diplomacy" can't and won't solve this, any more than it can stop a mugger or a rapist.

Trump has been doing "diplomacy" since the start of his term and things have only been getting exponentially worse.

[AltairIV]

3. move on.

With a membership of less then 100,000 nationwide they are NOT a force to be reckoned with.

[Cha]

11. No.

[question everything]

60. Tell this to the people of New York City and Minneapolis

[AltairIV]

64. He can win but......

Look I really hope he puts up a solid campaign effort and can upset the establish democratic order, But he'll be running against a republican candidate, the democrat party and possibly a third party candidate along with tons of outside money. His primary victory shows it can be done, but he must hold the center which is filled with people who are sorely disappointed and angry with Adams. But to claim the Socialist party will lead him to victory is a pipe dream.

[electric_blue68]

67. Ummm... "the democrat party" ???

[SunSeeker]

122. There is no such thing as the "democrat party" -- Republicans made that name up.

They came up with that name for the very juvenile reason that they like to be able to emphasize the last syllable, "rat." Get it? They're calling us the rat party. They think they're being so clever and are owning the libs. That's why all the idiots on Fox, OANN, and the current White House use that name. And when you use that name, it tells everyone where you get your news.

The name of our party is the Democratic Party.

[electric_blue68]

68. Well, as a NYC'r...NOT an Adam's, or Cuomo fan. So Zohran, it is. and*

Was not my first choice.
Still not sure about rank vote choice. Sigh

*almost forgot!
Omg, Silwa - Yet, again??!!!
Yeeeeech! Ptooooie.

[LeftInTX]

163. I think Zohran won because of his voter engagement, not just his DSA affiliation. Just my two cents!

He's young, energetic and well, he's good looking too! Went door to door. I think people could relate. I don't know much else about him, but I assume, he's "likeable". (Being young, energetic, going door to door, having good social skills, and being good looking are all factors in the likeability scale)

Cuomo has baggage etc.

[electric_blue68]

164. I'm sure that helped.

👍

[mcar]

70. They seem to be here

There's a big OP about their recent "convention."

[leftstreet]

4. I agree with them n/t

[yardwork]

5. You'd just let Russia invade and take over Ukraine?

[leftstreet]

8. There are NATO troops in Ukraine?

I thought the DSA statements were about NATO, not Ukraine.

Yes I'd like to see NATO fuck the fuck off. It's just becoming an Imperialist force to keep the the 3rd (brown) world down

[yardwork]

15. I think we're talking past one another.

If I now understand correctly, you agree with DSA that the U.S. should withdraw from NATO. You aren't saying we should allow Russia to invade and take over another country.

I don't think DSA's proposed solution would work. Sometimes there is no diplomatic solution. Now, are there other kinds of solutions short of war? Maybe, but so far Russia hasn't been swayed by economic sanctions and Trump lifted them all anyway.

I think the opening paragraph in DSA's statement is kind of silly. The effect would be to hand Ukraine to Russia. Who is going to enforce this call for "immediate diplomacy and deescalation?" I'm not at all persuaded that NATO caused this. Putin caused this because he wants Ukraine. He's said so for years.

The Democratic Socialists of America condemns Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and demands immediate diplomacy and de-escalation to resolve this crisis. We stand in solidarity with the working classes of Ukraine and Russia who will undoubtedly bear the brunt of this war, and with antiwar protestors in both countries and around the world who are calling for a diplomatic resolution.

[leftstreet]

29. I think so

And thank you for taking the time to post your thoughts

[Hekate]

17. Wow. There's so many brown people in Ukraine being oppressed by NATO. Who knew?

Please explain how that works. Also, since I admit haven’t been paying attention to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization outside Europe, can you please give me some links to show how that works?

[yardwork]

20. There are a fair number of "brown" people being oppressed by Russia.

Most of the forced recruits for their invasion of Ukraine come from the eastern parts of Russia and the eastern nations in Russia's sphere of influence. None of those people are considered to be white by Moscow elites.

[electric_blue68]

69. Ah, you could be right

👍

[Hekate]

82. But my question was about the people NATO is accused of oppressing in Ukraine. I know about Russian conscripting from...

…N. Korea. Somehow I’ve been under the impression that they have been sent by Kim Jong Un as cannon fodder.

[yardwork]

86. I don't know of anybody NATO is oppressing.

That sounds like Russian-fueled lies to me. It would be beneficial to Putin if NATO was disbanded.

Interestingly, everything DSA proposes would be beneficial to Putin.

[Hekate]

89. I think you and I are on the same page. I've been trying to tease out (so to speak) an admission...

…from one or two people proof that their claims and those of DSA are mistaken.

Or pure barnyard byproducts — take your pick.

[Crunchy Frog]

36. What? About letting Putin rape and pillage Ukraine in the name of "anti-imperialism"?

[uponit7771]

129. Disband NATO and pull out of Ukraine are very bad ideas

[leftstreet]

131. I said nothing about Ukraine

I said NATO is an imperialist 1st world alliance

[SunSeeker]

134. What country has NATO taken over with its "imperialism"?

Putin, on the other hand....

[uponit7771]

137. They've screwed up a couple of times but I don't notice pattern of taking over people's property like a proper imperial

... force.

The context of what you were agreeing to included Ukraine, there was not one or other in your reply

[H2O Man]

6. Hugh!

(Older members only)

[Shellback Squid]

7. lol, and Robb is a dingbat

[H2O Man]

21. Well played!

[madinmaryland]

16. SERIESLY!! Call your congresscritter RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!

[H2O Man]

22. Where is Walt Star?

We need his leadership!

[Shellback Squid]

35. miss his thoughtful posts, so many early DUer's are now gone

we have almost the same enrollment date but no where near the same number of posts. I guess I have little to say

[madinmaryland]

50. Good question. That was an epic flame out. Skinner: "Ok".

[Hekate]

85. Writing under an assumed name?

[yardwork]

18. Now don't cast asparagus on our friends the socialists.

[H2O Man]

23. Ha!

And the anti-socials among us.

[yardwork]

24. Or we're all screwn!!!!

[H2O Man]

25. The sky is falling!

..... as a result of our party not getting all three DSP votes!

[MuseRider]

57. LOL!

Wow, it has been a LOOONG time but still funny. Thanks for the memory!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

9. I remember the DSA response to the invasion of Ukraine

I have NOT been a fan of DSA
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216408873
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216408873#post5

[Charmin One]

10. DSA also wants to dissolve the family

Now that’s left wing radical!

[obamanut2012]

12. What family?

[Charmin One]

13. All familes eom

[obamanut2012]

170. How?

[Charmin One]

14. Aa DSA rondtable recommended it

Not all democratic socialists are for it, but a roundtable at the DSA conference rcommended it:
https://mises.org/mises-wire/leftists-still-want-abolish-family

[JustAnotherGen]

45. I'm a prostitute?

Other statements from the panel included: “I want to perform abortions at a church before it’s all said and done,” and “The only real difference between marriage and prostitution is the price and the duration of the contract.”

https://dekalbganews.com/stories/674234181-dsa-panel-calls-for-abolishing-family-structure-at-socialism-conference

Yeah - I disagree entirely with them. Or wait - in a heterosexual marriage are the MEN the prostitutes?

Also - my UU Meeting building is small and not really best up for performing a medical procedure.

[electric_blue68]

79. I like the UU's.

[JustAnotherGen]

87. We believe in potluck suppers

[electric_blue68]

88. That's a good enough reason!

😄👍

[Crunchy Frog]

94. In a same sex marriage, which one is supposed to be the prostitute?

[JustAnotherGen]

106. Mind boggling

[electric_blue68]

71. Ohhh, brother 🙄

I do want an equal partnership in a marriage.
Whether man & woman, man & man, or woman & woman. 👍

[JustAnotherGen]

114. It makes me question

How women are treated by DSA husbands.

[yardwork]

19. I thought this was hyperbole but it's not.

Early last month, the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)sponsored a panel on the family at the organization’s Socialism Conference 2025. The organization described the topic this way: “How should the left relate to the family? Socialist analysis makes clear that the nuclear family form is an inherently repressive, racist, and hetero-sexist institution that functionally reinforces and reproduces capitalism.”

The roundtable featured Olivia Katbi, the co chair of Portland DSA; Eman Abdelhadi, an assistant professor and sociologist at the University of Chicago; and Katie Gibson, a Teaching Fellow at the University of Chicago.

Key observations from the panelists included:

“When we talk about family abolition, we’re talking about the abolition of the economic unit… all of our material needs taken care of by the collective.”
“We argue for abolition of the family in general… the institution of the family acts as part of the carceral system.”

As usual, the DSA is quite authoritarian in their approach. How will this dissolution of families be achieved? At gun point?

[EllieBC]

27. Of course they are authoritarian.

And tankies love it. They don’t want anyone to have any choices they don’t agree with.

[Ace Rothstein]

166. These people need to step out of the academia bubble.

Nobody talks like that in the real world and a lot of their ideas are incredibly unpopular with the average person.

[OutNow]

26. The question of the family is not new

The origin of the family as an economic unit has been studied and alternatives have been proposed for 150 years. The question of how the dissolution will occur has been well documented. You can read a primer at https://easysociology.com/sociological-perspectives/marxism/the-marxist-view-of-family-an-outline-explanation-and-analysis/ Or you can read it in the original written in 1994 by Engels "Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State"

[yardwork]

28. Good Lord.

I like my family. My gay-married, blended, extended family that even includes my ex and his wife and her biological son. And my Catholic MIL who is often surprised but always loving.

You can pry my gay-married wedding band from my cold dead hands. You can send my wife and our kids to different camps. You can rant and rave about capitalism but I don't think you're going to outlaw families without violence.

Even our dog will fight this tooth and nail.

This is beyond silly. It is authoritarianism.

[Behind the Aegis]

31. What irritates me about this...well, there is a lot, but the main one...

Those who want to "ignore" this or "minimize" it with, what they think are clever, quips. I am old enough to remember when the Christian Coalition morphed into the "Moral Majority" which became the Tea Party, which morphed into MAGA! Ignoring extremists is NEVER a good idea. They, along with others, cost us a sane president, Harris, and may very well spell the end of the US Democracy.

[yardwork]

33. Very good point.

[electric_blue68]

75. While I am being "quippy" - I remember all of this. I Do keep an eye out on extremists.

[EllieBC]

32. Imagine being so hateful

that some people are happy with their families you want to abolish them.

Tankies are in for a surprise if they try that. And it won’t work out for them.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. Wow, that's insane. Family units of one sort or another exist accross all primate species,

and all human societies without exception.

[Hekate]

91. And that is the truth

[JustAnotherGen]

46. Yeah

Not my family. Hands off my family.

[electric_blue68]

74. Oh, "joy". 🙄

[lapucelle]

30. Last week at their convention, DSA tabled a motion to censure AOC.

The DSA claim is that "the convention ended before we had time to debate it", but they left the insulting resolution on the table, as some kind of ridiculous threat.

AOC withdrew her request for an endorsement from DSA in 2024 when they thought they could pull her strings. They're picking a fight with the wrong Democrat.

R47: Resolution to Censure U.S. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSDh4Hl_dunLD7ogN3_w5PQbX5-CulANm1JFZNDb_pUmHQHdno7j9d79qnWxXh3ZvpwKnU07albXFm9/pub

More on the story here:

Is the DSA on a collision course with AOC?

https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2025/08/dsa-collision-course-aoc/407434/

[Cha]

40. Mahalo for that on DSA "Tabling a Resolution to

Censure AOC." smh.

[JustAnotherGen]

44. AOC

is a Democratic Party member. The DSA can shove off. She may very well end up being a Democratic Party Senator.

And she doesn't need them to do that. She will need moderates in Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. There are a lot of them.

[lapucelle]

107. According to the DSA censure resolution, one of AOC's "sins" was endorsing Kamala Harris.

[JustAnotherGen]

109. Jesus Christ

They not like us. All 80,000 of them.

The Working Families Party is much more aligned with the Democratic Party's values. Our Rep Candidate in 2024 was WFP
https://workingfamilies.org/2024/07/electing-kamala-harris-is-part-of-our-plan-to-win-for-working-people-in-2024/

[Oopsie Daisy]

115. Interesting... 80,000?

>>They not like us. All 80,000 of them.
I thought there might have been more. I guess that's a natural mistake for me to make when I pay attention to the loud volume rather than the actual numbers.

[JustAnotherGen]

118. WFP

Has hundreds of thousands affiliated members.

And - they Endorsed Harris.

The Democratic t base is Black women. That is a FACT.

To hell with the DSA. They were against us.

[mcar]

124. Good gad

Just another reminder that DSA are NOT Democrats.

[SunSeeker]

133. Insanity!

[sheshe2]

53. I did not know about this.

TY.

[Hekate]

92. Holy shit

[lapucelle]

105. Claims to counterculture notwithstanding,

DSA's resolutions are marked by all the linguistic flourishes of the bureaucracy: There are many "Whereas ..." and "Be it resolved ...", and "Be it further resolved ..." clauses.

The summary and the resolution itself both call for the "shaming" to be publicly published.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSDh4Hl_dunLD7ogN3_w5PQbX5-CulANm1JFZNDb_pUmHQHdno7j9d79qnWxXh3ZvpwKnU07albXFm9/pub

[snot]

34. I'm not sure I agree with them on every point,

but I agree with Obama's assessment during his term that Ukraine was a vital interest for Russia and not for us, and that our involvement there would not pan out well.

[mountain grammy]

38. I'm not so sure

But hindsight is 20/20 and I’m sure Obama would have done a lot of things differently if he hadn’t underestimated the racism and stupidity of republicans. But me too, I did that.

[Crunchy Frog]

43. That sounds an awfully lot like endorsing the idea that some people have the right to own other people.

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I really hope Obama didn't mean it in the way it sounded.

[snot]

172. I believe he was trying to be realistic.

Neither we nor any other country has infinite resources; we all have to pick our battles and deploy ourselves where it matters most.

If you eliminated all the treasure lost by the US in all the futile wars another during my lifetime, we'd all be enormously better off – free health care, free college for all, a sound infrastructure, etc. might all have been easily achieved. And most of the countries we've tried to "help" are also worse off than if we'd stayed out of them.

[Crunchy Frog]

174. This is NOT comparable to any other historical situation

in which we were interfering in another country to try to "help" them.

The ONLY situation that this is comparable to is our support for the UK and USSR while they were fighting defensive wars against Hitler's aggression.

If you take the position that "big powers" have the right to do whatever they want to smaller neighboring countries, and the PEOPLE living in them, you are effectively advocating for some people to be able to own other people.

A "might makes right" world will ultimately eat up far more resources than one in which international law is enforced as much as possible. It will also be vastly more cruel.

The reason our country doesn't have free healthcare and education, and decent infrastructure, is because of ideology, not lack of adequate resources.

Stopping Hitler wasn't "realistic" either.

[JustAnotherGen]

47. Ukraine is vital interest

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For allies - like Germany. Italy.

Also - Putin is a fucking murderous piece of shit who wants to eliminate every single Ukrainian. That's genocide. The Russians are evil. They've done this to Ukraine before.

[snot]

171. Sources for those conclusions would be appreciated

.

It's a huge undertaking to produce comparative lists, but fwiw, my duckduckgo AI-assisted summary concludes that since 1950, the US has invaded 400 countries and Russia has invaded 5.

[Crunchy Frog]

176. They've invaded at least that many just since 1991.

How is "invasion" even defined in that analysis?

[snot]

177. Actually, the definitions used

were somewhat different, and struck me as favorable to the US and unfavorable to Russia.

[electric_blue68]

76. Well...

"Ukraine was a vital interest for Russia"

Too fucking bad Russia , and Vlad (bring back the *CCCP!) Putin!

Most Ukrainians wanted to be free of Russia! 🌻🇺🇦🌻
(I'm half 2nd gen Ukrainian-American)

*CCCP - Russian shorthand for The Soviet Union

[BannonsLiver]

37. It's almost as if they're kooks.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

104. I agree

[JustAnotherGen]

119. They flat out are

And selfish kooks at that.

[JustAnotherGen]

42. This is why I'm a Democratic Party Member

In January 2022 the Libertarian Party called on the US to leave NATO in light of escalating tensions between Russia and Ukraine.

I don't respect either party, and find their positions objectionable.

The Democratic Party President Truman gave the world this.

It's our thing. If the DSA wants to join forces with us - they have to accept that a Democratic Party President made certain the USA was one of the 12 Founding countries.

To be clear: My party, my party, my party.

That's why I'm at DU and not at DSAU.

[Oopsie Daisy]

48. Of course they did! Their disloyalty and treachery to our country and to our party must never be forgotten.

I simply cannot trust anyone who promotes, excuses, or encourages this BS. I cannot trust, nor would I support anyone who aligns themselves with this group or their philosophy. They live in a fantasy world. They are divisive and a danger... and they have many people deceived.

[Nanjeanne]

49. For the record mises.org is a right wing

Organization that should never be used as a source for what someone or something other organization is saying or doing.

I have no desire to jump into a discussion of what DSA panel said. I would certainly seek specific transcript or video rather than another source’s description of what was said as that’s usually a biased point of view.

But using a link to Mises.org to make a point and having other posters discuss it as if factual is ridiculous on a site like DU that can have interesting and contrary opinions but rooted in some neutral territory.

The Ludwig von Mises Institute for Austrian Economics, or Mises Institute, is a nonprofit think tank headquartered in Auburn, Alabama, that is a center for Austrian economic thought, right-wing libertarian thought, and the paleolibertarian and anarcho-capitalist movements in the United States. Their leader Llewellyn Harrison Rockwell Jr.is an American author, editor, and political consultant. A libertarian and a self-professed anarcho-capitalist, he founded and is the chairman of the Mises Institute,

[JustAnotherGen]

72. Mine is the Dekalb GA news

https://dekalbganews.com/stories/674234181-dsa-panel-calls-for-abolishing-family-structure-at-socialism-conference

Also - Extremist News links are used quite a bit at DU.

Both the DSA and Libertarians are anti NATO.

Also - directly from their site:
https://www.dsausa.org/statements/on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/

DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict. We call on antiwar activists in the US and across the world to oppose violent escalations, demand a lasting diplomatic solution, and stress the crucial need to accept any and all refugees resulting from this crisis. Much of the next ten years are coming into view through this attack. While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.

[Nanjeanne]

93. Like I said Im not debating NATO or DSA. Just pointing out that people need to consider sources and

understand when an article says someone said something, it’s usually wise to think about that. I research and go down rabbit holes sometimes. But that’s me. Others may not. I don’t believe I commented about the DeKalb source or bother researching the accuracy of their report, because, as I said, I was not commenting on DSA or NATO Just mise.org. The need to address me is perplexing. But since you did… here you go…

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dekalb-ga-news/]

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Metric Media LLC lacks transparency as they do not have an about page that describes their conservative agenda, nor discloses funding and ownership.

[JustAnotherGen]

108. Thank you for the response

We often see the Qatar State Owned news source Al.Jazeera at DU.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

History
Founded in 1996, Al Jazeera is an international news network owned by Qatar’s state through the Qatar Media Corporation. It is headquartered in Doha, Qatar. You can view their history timeline here and see Al Jazeera America’s leadership here. Dr. Mostefa Souag is currently Acting Director-General of the Al Jazeera Media Network.

Read our profile on the Qatari government and media.

Funded by / Ownership
Al Jazeera is owned and funded by the state of Qatar. The founder and Chairman of the Board is Sheikh Hamad bin Thamer Al Thani, a member of Qatar’s ruling family, the House of Thani. According to a Fortune article, in 2016, state-funded broadcaster Al Jazeera laid off 500 workers due to Qatar’s financial troubles resulting from low global prices for oil and natural gas. Al Jazeera generates revenue through advertising.

Analysis / Bias
In review, Al Jazeera reports news with minimally loaded wording in their headlines and articles such as this: UN approves team to monitor ceasefire in Yemen’s port city, and Erdogan delays Syria operation, welcomes US troop withdrawal. Both of these articles are properly sourced from credible news agencies. When reporting USA news, there is minimal bias in reporting such as this: Pentagon chief Mattis quits, cites policy differences with Trump. In general, straight news reporting has a minimal bias; however, as a state-funded news agency, Al Jazeera is typically not critical of Qatar.

I remember when DU was littered with RT. State Owned Propaganda is Propaganda.

Also - when you post - folks are going to respond. I would suggest maybe starting your posts with a note of who is allowed to respond to you?

I don't believe that breaks the TOS of DU in any way shape or form - but it will deter folks from responding to you, so you don't have to question why folks feel to you.

Have a blessed day!

[Nanjeanne]

110. Left center bias and medium credibility. Minimal loaded wording. I'll take it. Love watching Al Jazeera America. Lots

of world news which I dont get on US media. And great interviews Im fully capable of watching and reading AJ and then researching for details and making my own determination about facts and opinion and bias.

[JustAnotherGen]

111. State Owned Propaganda

[Nanjeanne]

117. Okey dokey.

[Hekate]

90. Thank you for this very informative post, Nanjeanne

[AZProgressive]

51. It looks like another attempt to prevent Mamdani from winning

The US after the Cold War agreed not to expand NATO closer to Russia's borders which I think is a big reason for the Ukraine conflict.

I don't necessarily agree with every policy proposal from the Democratic Socialists but at least they have better policies for addressing the affordability crisis facing a lot of American cities.

[lostincalifornia]

52. This OP has nothing to do with Mamdani. And if you read the OP, that was stated explicitedly

"I bring this up because of the meeting going on between trump and putin in Alaska. "

and it seems that trump, the DSA, and putin, all agree with each other on that. Pretty interesting, no?

[AZProgressive]

54. He's a Democratic Socialist running for mayor of NYC

Who else would be the OP talking about? Bernie Sanders or AOC but they are really not up for contested election like Mamdani is.

[lostincalifornia]

55. So what. trump, putin, and the DSA are all on the same page that the U.S. should get out of NATO. Mamdani is

running for Mayor, and NATO is not part of his job duties.

but go right ahead if you want to bring Mamdani into this discussion. I don't see anyone else in this thread thinking about that.

[AZProgressive]

56. I agree NATO is not part of his job duties

I'm just thinking of relevant Democratic Socialists and there is Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, and AOC who actually supports NATO.

[MichMan]

63. Neither is Israel, but he says he will arrest Netanyahu for war crimes

[AZProgressive]

80. I support that

If Israel has nothing to do with his duties why did they try to make a scandal out of his foreign policy views on Israel during the primary?

[MichMan]

84. Because NYC has a very large number of Jewish residents

No mayor has anything to do with foreign policies

[JustAnotherGen]

78. I'm.shocked

He wrote a Democratic Party General Election Candidate is a DSA. That might hurt his candidacy with status quo Democrats.

[JustAnotherGen]

73. I thought he was a Democratic Party Member

He's not?

[thought crime]

65. Yep. The Purity Police are out and about.

[JustAnotherGen]

77. Being a Democratic Party member

Is purity policing?

I'm what we used to call a *gunner* at DU.

I've not received one word of pushback from any DUer or felt like I was being policed for that belief.

But yes - I expect DUers to be Democratic Party Members, and to support the Democratic Party.

If that makes me a purist - so be it.

[Oopsie Daisy]

103. Yes. Loyalty is important.

When it comes to politics and party identification, "as a" is not the same thing as "is a" ... in my opinion.

[thought crime]

132. DUers can be Democratic Party Members and can also be DSA Members

I think the DSA might have dues though. Also, I think there are probably some DUers who are not US citizens, but may want to express support for liberal/left ideas.

[JustAnotherGen]

139. That doesn't make sense

I've been at DU since 2007, read since 2004 - from the earliest time I read here - we are Democratic Party members 1st.

I would hope that those outside of the US would be here to support our party's platform, candidates, and goals at all levels of the government.

Especially at a time when many of us are flying our American Flags upside down.

[LeftInTX]

144. DSA is a PAC, not a party.

They endorse candidates with "DSA values". So sometimes it's Democrats, sometimes it's another party.

Our local DSA chapter recommended some pretty generic candidates this past spring! They saw that it was between a "Democrat" (non-partisan races) and "Republican" and ended up recommending all of the Democrats..LOL...They didn't "endorse" them, but they recommended them.

The rules are that you need to seek out their endorsement. I know numerous candidates on this list would not have sought their endorsement due to it possibly being an albatross..LOL Several of the candidates did not even want the Democratic Party's endorsement because they felt it would hurt their election chances.


https://www.sanantoniodsa.org/voter-guide


Here is what they said about Mayor

Rationale:

Well folks, after a long campaign season, we are finally down to two candidates for mayor. A real Sophie’s choice.

We’re recommending Gina Ortiz Jones over Rolando Pablos, partially because, unlike the Express-News, we care about more than just a stadium getting built–we don’t force our writers into mandatory anti-union meetings. Little has changed on the campaign trail since our last Voter Guide, so we don’t feel the need to rehash many of those sentiments. She dodged Garrett as he blew corncob pipe smoke in her face at Flambeau, which was fun. She’s gathered the endorsements of several sitting councilmembers, including Teri Castillo and Jalen McKee-Rodriguez. Yet, somehow, the campaign still feels juiceless. Campaign by mailer is definitely a tactic but where’s the ground game outside of TOP canvassers in the final two weeks leading up to the runoffs?

Rolando has correctly pivoted to making himself seem as normal as possible. Just another mayoral candidate who grew up on the West Side. Like Misty Spears and Gatty Pibbons, he’s hammered home how San Antonio needs to get back to the basics of streets, sidewalks, and cops. Nevermind that we’re bankrupting our city by annexing infrastructure-less exurbs beyond 1604 every two weeks. Rolando is very worried about the city budget, which is why he’s pledged to pay up to 50% of the cost of Project Marvel. Fiscal responsibility means we cut the things I don’t like and we pour money into things I do like, it’s very simple really!

Yes, Rolando will be a proud pinocchio for Greg Abbott, but not just because they’re both Republicans. Greg Abbott doesn’t get people to positions without something in return. Just ask part-time Minecraft character Marc Lahood. Abbott sent cronies to every Republican district that voted against Vouchers and took them out. Should Rolando be elected, he’ll have more than just city council members to look out for if he doesn’t make Abbott proud.

Gina is not socialist at all. Neither is anyone else they recommended. As former under secretary of the US Air Force, she is a big NATO and big supporter of our military bases.

Ric who they endorsed, is slightly socialist. But he's not a Bernie. He's practical and flexible. More progressive, but he's flexible. He meets the needs for the given situation. And if Ric Galvan dissed the military or NATO, he probably would not have won his election. No one in San Antonio wins elections if they diss the military. It's like this:

&ab_channel=Mooedf

[JustAnotherGen]

146. How many people

Are in your local chapter of this PAC?

How much money did they receive from the PAC?

[LeftInTX]

158. I have absolutely no idea!

I know nothing about them. It's just that they endorsed a few candidates.
I know I saw some of them at the polls, and they had some literature. That's all I know.


I'm always on the look out for Party of Socialism and Liberation. They're huge trouble makers and are a political party, which hates the Democratic Party. I'm always telling everyone to stay clear of them. They're trouble and have quite a crowd. Trying to warn everyone about them keeps my busy enough! PSL is everywhere trying to tear down the Democratic Party and once the election was over their went from Killer Kamala to being anti-Trump. They're very loud and people are being drawn to them. They'll at all the anti-Trump rallies. PSL keeps me up at night!

As for DSA, I couldn't tell you who they are, except who they endorsed and that on election day, I saw them at the polls.

Here are their recommendations for the 2024 Democratic Primary. They basically recommend no one, except Roland, Kristian Carranza and a a young union guy named Charles Fuentes. However, I know they endorse Greg Casar, but since he is unopposed they had no recommendation.

They're rationales for judges are a hoot!

Sheriff
Recommendation: Leave it blank
Rationale: Don’t vote for cops.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QSmnvN4k0BNItXk01ZAXTYRIM5rFVnmDJlwzPxhrcnA/edit?tab=t.0

I guess they were too busy with Palestine to endorse in Nov 2024.

Maybe after Trump won, they got some sense knocked into their heads temporarily, because their June 2025 guide is quite different than their Democratic primary guide.

[JustAnotherGen]

140. This is what appealed to me when i joined

I started reading based on a recommendation for someone I met at the Iraq War Protest in DC. They tipped me off to this place.

The DSA going against Harris means I will never respect that Party.

Democratic Underground is an online community for friendly, politically liberal people who understand the importance of working together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. Constructive criticism of Democratic politicians, party officials, and public figures is welcome and encouraged, but we expect our members to follow our forum rules and participate in a manner which promotes a positive atmosphere.

Members are not expected to hold across-the-board progressive opinions on every single issue, but we do expect members to be generally progressive and to support Democrats at election time -- remember that and respect it when posting. Harsh, divisive, partisan attacks against Democrats or progressive values (from the right or the left) are not welcome here.

[thought crime]

142. Zohran Mamdani is a member of the Democratic Party. He is also a member of DSA.

And he won the Democratic Primary for NYC Mayor. So please do support him at election time.

[JustAnotherGen]

147. I can't

I live in NJ.

Support in a GE is a vote.

My focus is dominating Shittarelli, and the two magapub assembly candidates. All three need to be humiliated for being evil racist ass wipes. I'm surprised the DSA has said nothing on their web site about Shitty campaigning in the Capitol of Israel instead of Trenton.

It's go time if we want a snowball's chance in hell of redistricting the 7th District for the midterms.

I just read in another response that the DSA is a PAC. It's not a Party. Since it's not really a Party - there should be no issue as to what Mamdani's Party affiliation is.

[thought crime]

154. It's not a PAC or a Party.

It's a Political Organization with dues paying memberships that supports Democratic Socialism in general. It's more like a club - like the Sierra Club. You can read about it on Wikipedia. I am not a member.

[Mosby]

160. Google AI

While the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) itself is a 501(c)(4) non-profit social welfare organization, it does have affiliated Political Action Committees (PACs) that engage in electoral activities.

Here's a breakdown:

DSA as a 501(c)(4): This status allows the organization to engage in lobbying and other political activities, as long as these activities are not their primary purpose. Donations to a 501(c)(4) are generally not tax-deductible.

DSA affiliated PACs: DSA has registered PACs, both nationally and at the local chapter level (like the Pittsburgh DSA PAC). These PACs are allowed to raise and spend money to support or oppose political candidates and ballot measures, within limits set by the Federal Election Commission (FEC).

PACs and candidate contributions: Organizations themselves (like the DSA as a 501(c)(4)) cannot contribute to candidates and party committees. However, their affiliated PACs can make these contributions.

DSA's electoral involvement: DSA actively endorses and campaigns for candidates, typically those who align with its democratic socialist platform, according to the DSA National Electoral Commission.

Therefore, while the main DSA entity is not a PAC, it utilizes PACs as part of its strategy to influence elections and support its endorsed candidates.

[thought crime]

165. Yeah OK - good point.

But I think a major function of such an organization is to allow people to embrace the label of Democratic Socialist and feel that they belong to that group. I think it is an artifact of the two party system.

[JustAnotherGen]

167. So basically they are UU's

I'm a UU.

Went to their website.

One member says a Club.
One says a PAC.
One says a Party.

UU's - you can out four of us at the front of the room on Sunday - ask a humanist question - get 4 different answers.

[lapucelle]

120. Indeed. The Purity Police at the DSA are proposing to censure a Democratic Congresswoman

for (among other "sins" ) endorsing the Democratic nominee for president.

And they want the "shaming" publicly posted.

R47: Resolution to Censure U.S. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

https://bit.ly/41EQ7NO

============================

[thought crime]

135. The DSA view on Ukraine is about as important as the disagreement between Slavoj Zizek and Yanis Varoufakis

I don't see many comments on DU reflecting that view.

[Crunchy Frog]

95. No it absolutely did not, and that is absolutely not the reason

that russia invaded Ukraine.

I usually only see those talking points coming from russian trolls and bots, and MAGATs pushing russian talking points on Twitter.

I'm astounded to see anyone on DU pushing that same garbage.

[AZProgressive]

96. I didn't say that was the reason

I personally support Ukraine in the current conflict. I remember shortly after the Cold War ended the US agreed not to expand NATO eastward but the US ended up doing so. Not sure if that East/West divide has anything to do with why Russia invaded Ukraine but in any case I think Putin is a war criminal and an Alaskan mayor should've had him arrested for the ICC.

[Crunchy Frog]

97. You are remembering incorrectly because there never was any such agreement.

There are so many people (as well as bots) pushing that narrative that many people think they remember it. It never happened though.

[AZProgressive]

98. This is what I was remembering

Documents show Gorbachev was assured US wouldn't expand NATO into Central and Eastern Europe

U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu).

https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/documents-show-gorbachev-was-assured-us-wouldnt-ex

I don't believe this is the reason why Russia invaded Ukraine but this was what I was referring to in my first post in this thread.

[Crunchy Frog]

99. Yes, it was in negotiations with the Soviet Union and Soviet officials.

Although it's argued that what was being discussed was the placement of NATO forces in the Eastern part of reunified Germany.

In any event, there were never any signed agreements, and the state involved in these negotiations hasn't existed since late 1991. The state known as the Russian Federation didn't exist, nor did an independent Ukrainian state.

Soviet security interests have not been operative since the Soviet state ceased to exist.

"Memoranda and assurances" mean nothing in international relations. Otherwise we would have gone to war with russia on the strength of the Budapest Memorandum which was far more explicit than anything that went on in the German reunification discussions, and involved countries that actually exist in the present day.

[DFW]

148. Interestingly enough, the Ukraine was a founding member of the UN

The Soviets perpetuated the myth of Ukrainian independence when it was convenient, and a reliable pro-Moscow vote in the UN was considered convenient enough.

Reality of course was that the Soviet Ukrainians couldn’t do anything on their own. My Ukrainian neighbor was in a Soviet army unit in Afghanistan 40 years ago, and he said there was no distinction made at all. There were no Ukrainian units or Russian units, just Soviet units. The Ukrainian UN delegation during the Soviet era probably needed Moscow's permission to rest their lunch hour, but in that setting, Ukrainian “independence” got more recognition from their imperial power bosses in Moscow than they get now.

[Crunchy Frog]

100. This is an interesting video on the subject.

Some of the interesting things it talks about is what certain Eastern European countries did to essentially blackmail their way into NATO membership.

Another thing it talks about is the discontinuity between American administrations to the point that members of Clinton's cabinet didn't even know about memorandums of discussions between James Baker and Gorbachev.

Hope you find it interesting.

?si=L3sSqHQbQjMBKJzq

[JustAnotherGen]

113. Sadly, I'm not

A lot of folks are only focused on Gaza.

They don't understand or have knowledge of Russia's Imperialism or Colonizer history. Or - the Holodomor.

Or that 20K Ukrainian children have been kidnapped, adopted into Russian families, and are being red educated to hate themselves.

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/fact-sheet-russias-kidnapping-and-re-education-of-ukraines-children/

[OC375]

58. No Thanks

If the "future of the Democratic Party" is Democratic Socialism, I'll likely have no part in it. These guys sound like a front for transitioning into communism. Socialism is a gateway drug.

[electric_blue68]

81. Er.... you don't like the Nordic Countries system, then?

They haven't fallen into Communisn (of which, to be clear, I am NO fan of).

[JustAnotherGen]

121. They have Social Democracy

They are a balance of Free Market and an effective welfare state. Norway has a high number of state owned Services (Oil and Gas as an example). This is impossible in the USA due to our diversity.

Democratic Party President LBJ explained 60 years ago why we can't have nice things. The Dominant Culture will never allow it.

Norway, Finland, and Sweden are members of NATO. That's at odds with America's Democratic Socialist Party.

[electric_blue68]

127. Oh, oops! I got the Names of the Type of Gov't Mixed Up! TY, correction.

Diversity? In this case do you mean bc of all the Maga types? I know FDR had many ?oligarch types against his programs but he mostly succeeded.

And what did LBJ say?

[JustAnotherGen]

149. I'm a Black America Gen Xer - my apologies

Among my peer group it's legend:


Lyndon B. Johnson
“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
― Lyndon B. Johnson

This may be hard to "read" for a Democratic Party member -

But this Black woman believes we can be a true Social Welfare State - as long as we are not included.

Food stamps and financial social assistance was all hunky dory ok fine with the white America of the 30s to 60s - until the Black tax payers were able to access what they were paying for.

Accessing the highways we paid for was fine . . . until we were allowed to stay in the same hotels as white Americans.

Black Americans have a really hard row to hoe with making sure we come first as Unwilling Originals in any moves made to a Socialist State.

We were here 2nd. Indigenous people are 1st.

Dutch/Spaniard/French/UK/Portuguese brought us here against our will so our 1619 out ranks theirs.

Everyone else take a ticket and get to the back of the line.

"But JAG! That won't work!"

So be it.

[electric_blue68]

150. Ah, Gen X. 👍

I know you're a Black woman, but not your age group.

Ahnd now that you quoted LBJ - Yeah, I definitely recognize that quote. Agree w unfortunately the circumstances of what he said.

I could see a bigger welfare State - except everyone should benefit from it.

[JustAnotherGen]

151. There needs to be set asides for Black Americans first

The Raw Deal was utter bullshit.

VP Harris's home ownership assistance was a form of reparations for FDR'S raw deal and red lining against Black Americans.

LBJ promised me a Great Society where I could thrive.

Harris had a clever point in her Housing Assistance plan which set things right and gave me hope for The Great Society we were promised m

Let's pick up where that Bright Woman shined her light and disinfected the evil.

[lapucelle]

155. The Roberts Court decided that all the voter supression problems had been "fixed",

so they gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013 and have continued to do so as new opportunities present.

I don't think people realize how great the impact of those decisions has been on the development of the situation we find ourselves in today. 2016 was the first presidential election following that ruling. Nothing has been the same since.

Selective originalism and selective textualism: How the Roberts court decimated the Voting Rights Act

https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/07/selective-originalism-and-selective-textualism-how-the-roberts-court-decimated-the-voting-rights-act/

Voting Laws Roundup 2016

For the fourth year in a row, bills that would expand voters’ access to the ballot box have outpaced those that would restrict voting, in terms of both introduction and passage.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-2016
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/New_Restrictions_2016.pdf?inline=1

[electric_blue68]

159. Ah, got it. I could support that...

As for red lining, I'vecknown about that for decades. Looking it up I learned some more despicable details.

What I didn't know was that FDR instigated it. Woah, shame on him.

As for Kamala, yet another reason to rue her/our loss.

[mcar]

153. This old white lady agrees with you JAG

Well, and sadly, said.

[cachukis]

59. Had not considered this group in my recent thinking.

Appreciate the contributions to help me understand this syllogism.
Have to admit, the contemplation of views I hadn't considered was a bit of a trip.
I have not encountered many far out perspectives, but trying to see how they may work is an exercise I'm excited to revisit.
Some of us were far out, once. Some still.

[Bobstandard]

61. One can be a democratic socialist without being a DSA

This is another example of an idea facing hijack by a brand. If I were oh, let’s say a Russian propagandist, I’d fund DSA and enjoy the confusion and acrimony they engender.

[lostincalifornia]

62. That is absolutely true.

[Emile]

83. Exactly +1

[SSJVegeta]

101. If being wrong about a major policy or issue discredits a political party or group

...then the Democratic party would have lost it's credibility long ago with the many various policy issues it has been wrong about.

Not least of which include:
-Support for invading Iraq and Afghanistan
-The Creation of Homeland Security and ICE
-The support for the Vietnam invasion
-Being against gay marriage
-Being against interracial marriage
-Jim Crow
-Japanese internment
(The list is long and nauseous and there's no point filling it out)

[SunSeeker]

125. Oh please. The Southern Democrats of Jim Crow are now the Republican Party.

The Democratic Party pulled our troops out of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, after the Republicans started those wars.

We didn't invade Vietnam. We provided military support to the South Vietnamese against the Russian backed North Vietnamese. It was Nixon who secretly sabotaged the Vietnam War peace talks so he could get elected...then escalated the war with secret bombing campaigns in neighboring countries.

The Democratic Party does not and never supported the masked Gestapo force that Homeland Security and ICE have become under Trump.

With regard to gay marriage and interracial marriage, it was the Democratic Party who championed both as public opinion turned to support both, yet it is Republicans threaten both.

Japanese internment was not just a Democratic Party thing. A poll from the American Institute of Public Opinion in March 1942 shows that 93 percent of Americans were in favor of the removal of Japanese immigrants and 59 percent supported the removal of Japanese American citizens. The Democratic Party acknowledged that Japanese interment was wrong, but the Republican Party is literally repeating that wrong today with their ICE internment camps.

What matters most, of course, is what positions a political party holds currently. That "nauseating list" you conjured up about the Democratic Party does not represent its current positions. But as far as anyone can tell, the DSA still thinks NATO should not exist and family structure should not exist either.

[SSJVegeta]

128. So youre saying there's a difference between the individual politicians and their party platforms/ policies and agendas?

[SunSeeker]

130. Unlike DSA, the Democratic Party is a big tent. Some Democrats may fail DSA's purity test.

DSA, like the Green Party, just serves to hand close elections to Republicans.

[SSJVegeta]

136. Is that why there are a few dozen or so DSA sponsored politicians (who dont endorse the policy presented in the OP)

Who currently hold office? As Democrats?

[SunSeeker]

143. Who are you talking about?

And what point are you trying to make?

[SSJVegeta]

145. The point I made is that nothing you say about DSA (outside of their specific platform) is representative of reality

https://inthesetimes.com/article/democratic-socialists-america-dsa-how-we-win-trump-election

[SunSeeker]

168. So no matter what anyone says about DSA, it's a lie? Come on.

Got anything recent from DSA that says they don't want to dissolve NATO...and the family?

That vapid "In These Times" DSA piece you linked to offers no such enlightenment, although it does bash the Democratic Party, claiming it "failed spectacularly," even though it is DSA who went from 95,000 members in 2021 to only 69,000 now, and DSA's endorsement of Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowmen did not help either of those two win their primaries, as your article points out.

[iemanja]

102. Who knew the Mayor of NY directed US

foreign policy. Oh, that’s because they don’t.

[JustAnotherGen]

116. I just saw

A story on FB posted by an old friend from.college. He's a gay, married hospital administrator in Manhattan - and is posting nonsense of some guy speaking about how he "Came back to NY to stop this Democrat (the magapub word for our party) Socialist take over of NYC".


Mamdani is between the hammer and the anvil. He can't trigger the wrath of the DSA - and he can't denounce the Democratic Party.

He's got to win.

He needs to lean into the Working Families Party. That way he doesn't have to denounce the DSA - but will have the weight of a strong movement behind him. NYC isn't the NJ-7th. Sue Altman was flawless - but her WFP affiliation might have hurt her.

He can't let these whackaloons magapubs define him.

And yes - if every magapub in America dropped dead today I wouldn't blink an eye.

[SunSeeker]

123. You think it doesn't matter if he agrees with DSA that NATO should be dissolved and its NYC headquarters shuttered?

Last edited Sat Aug 16, 2025, 01:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Do you think it doesn't matter if he agrees with DSA that the family should be dissolved?

I don't know if he actually agrees with those DSA positions (I assume he doesn't), but it definitely matters if he does, irregardless of whether he directs foreign policy, or family policy.

[Nixie]

112. Goodness, the mumbo jumbo is off the charts.

But just throw in “neoliberal” for the bone to chew on. No sense needs to be made.

[betsuni]

126. A shame they can't evolve into a positive force in 21st century America.

They seem awfully grumpy and touchy about one thing or another.

[thought crime]

138. OPs Source Links are from 2022

The perspective may have changed on the Ukraine issue.

[mvd]

141. I don't have to agree with all their positions..

in order to consider myself a Democratic Socialust. So not that worried about it.

[Ping Tung]

157. In my state we no longer register by party.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson

Note: I did register as a Democrat in 1965 and never changed it.

[Jose Garcia]

161. Back during the Cold War these type of people were called "Tankies"

As they would support USSR even when they sent tanks into Eastern European countries when there were reform movements.

[SunSeeker]

169. LOL. Thanks for that info. I never knew why they were called Tankies!

Seems on brand.

[LeftInTX]

162. An even bigger reminder: Avoid Party for Socialism and Liberation! They're a political party, which is trying

to destroy the Democratic Party! They're everywhere around here! They're loud. They're Putin supporters, they're North Korea and China supporters. They are well funded They're supported by billionaire Neville Singham. (The GOP House Oversight Committee is investigating their funding, but I think the Democratic House Oversight Committee should have investigated them last year. It was a mistake on our part! Especially after what Neville Singham's Code Pink did to Nancy Pelosi's house!!)

Also avoid the Green Party and Code Pink. Code Pink is affiliated with the Green Party and PSL. They also want to destroy the Democratic Party. Code Pink is funded by the same guy who funds PSL.

Also avoid their affiliates: Break Through News, ANSWER Coalition. and the People's Forum.

These groups will appear as social justice, charity groups during Republican administrations. That's how they recruit members. Then when Democrats are in power, they turn really ugly on them. They are one reason that Kamala lost. They partner with the Green Party and Cornel West. They don't care about winning. They only want Democrats to lose. I also think they receive funding from GOP operatives like Roger Stone affiliates. Roger Stone was praising PSL shortly before Biden resigned. He seemed to have an "inside tract" to alot of things. (I accidentally bumped into a show of his while researching the guy who shot Trump)

Thank You!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation