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Trump met with Putin in Alaska for a few hours and came away with nothing but "progress," whatever that means.
In diplomacy, world leaders almost never hold a summit until their staffs have ironed out the details to be announced at the summit. In other words, it serves no purpose at all for the leaders to meet if they aren't going to announce an agreement. After all, why go to all the logistical trouble if the meeting is pointless?
Trump obviously wanted another distraction from his Epstein files problem. What an idiot. He comes home from Alaska empty-handed only to return to more calls for the release of the Epstein files.
Trump is stupid. He's also an idiot.
Emile
(41,743 posts)was all political as hell and he should be forced to repay us for the cost of this political ad.
Dave Id
(265 posts)It's not his money he's spending, so why would it concern him?
Emile
(41,743 posts)
gab13by13
(31,840 posts)it was a submission meeting, and I guarantee that Putin ordered the meeting and Krasnov complied in grand fashion.
This submission meeting told the world that the US has joined the league of autocratic nations, told the world that imperialism is OK, told Ukraine that the US will not support it, will not send arms to it.
It was bad enough that Krasnov agreed to Putin's demand to meet in the United States, but for fuck's sake, rolling out the red carpet, Krasnov and Putin riding together in the Beast, WTF, the Secret Service better scan the Beast for bugs.
What a disgrace, yesterday confirmed to me that Helsinki was not an outlier, Krasnov is a Russian asset. I bet Putin has a copy of the Epstein files.
Emile
(41,743 posts)Trump is a threat to our national security.
rubbersole
(11,141 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,763 posts)If push comes to shove, he will take TACO down and his entire family too.
Melania! You had best have BILLIONS tucked away to keep you in the style you have become accustomed to since 1998!
FalloutShelter
(14,359 posts)One way or another.
rubbersole
(11,141 posts)colorado_ufo
(6,218 posts)Lovie777
(22,542 posts)we are being terrorized by the cruel GQP.
sop
(18,196 posts)of an agreement before Trump even met with Putin. Maybe they did and imbecile Trump came in and blew up the whole thing. We'll probably find out more from Russian state media than we will our own "free press."
The Madcap
(1,846 posts)That slimy Lavrov would eat Rubio for lunch. Rubio is an amateur.
llmart
(17,508 posts)This morning a Canadian analyst as talking about the failed "summit" and he said Rubio has zero experience and qualifications for the job he's been given and that if asked, he couldn't even name the districts in Ukraine or how the country is set up. But like everyone else that was chosen by the Orange Dicktator, he wasn't chosen for his experience or intellect, but for his obedience and loyalty to his master.
sop
(18,196 posts)of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee he had the necessary experience to be an effective SoS, and he would be a steadying influence on Trump. Anyway, that was the conventional wisdom at the time.
MadameButterfly
(3,943 posts)Trump won't go against Putin or back Ukraine against him, so why would Putin give him anything?
Trump needs the meeting to pretend he's doing something.
The question is how long can he pretend and convince his base he's even trying? I wonder if Trump thought Putin would cooperate as a favor to him, and he is now facing the humiliation of finding out he won't. Or did he always know, and this is just an act he has to play before he tries to put the blame on Ukraine and wash his hands of the whole thing?
sop
(18,196 posts)And he wasn't going to mess with me." He said much the same about Netenyahu and Gaza. Apparently, Trump thought he was dealing with CBS, or some weak-kneed university president.
MadameButterfly
(3,943 posts)He is used to bullying people and getting his way. He doesnt understand he has no leverage with Putin and Netanyahu. Or that they have been leading him on like he leads on his base. He actually thinks you can be friends with dictators and that that counts for something.
Gimpyknee
(1,025 posts)Mossfern
(4,684 posts)only lasted for a couple of days, and I do have to say that there were enough people who saw it for what it was and kept up the mantra of "Epstein Epstein Epstein."
It's just another example of Trump shenanigans costing the taxpayers millions and millions of dollars.
I hope the ridicule of Trump collapses his narcissistic ego and he has a complete break down.
Now is the time for the Democratic establishment and the rest of us to hit hard with no let up.
In other words (I can't believe I'm saying this!) STRIKE HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN.
calimary
(89,547 posts)We must NOT let that happen. He must have NO ESCAPE.
NJCher
(42,913 posts)Would have been a good point for the media to make.
I didnt hear anyone say that, at least on ABC coverage.
It would have helped people understand that it was another trump distraction.
P.S. everyone, keep Googling Epstein every day. Ten a day, if you can.
PJMcK
(24,969 posts)Do queries about Epstein affect their algorithms? If so, that's a great idea for keeping Epstein at the top of the search engines.
Do I have that right?
It's probably more effective than "calling your congressman" at this point. Our peanut gallery opinions are disregarded by the billionaire owned political class.
paleotn
(21,946 posts)Talk about an epic FAIL!!
rurallib
(64,641 posts)Topomi
(49 posts)This is always wag the dog we know it.
doc03
(38,994 posts)for him, why stop.
Dem4life1970
(1,055 posts)...that should've been an email.
Russia if you're listening, release the Epstein files!
Martin Eden
(15,512 posts)And garner him a Nobel Peace Prize.
He's not only ignorant of the diplomatic work that must precede a summit meeting, but too stupid to realize he is nothing more than a useful idiot to Putin.
RainCaster
(13,573 posts)All you get is a mouthful of Russian sperm.
returnee
(892 posts)dalton99a
(93,351 posts)Totally Tunsie
(11,736 posts)They won't give l'il donnie a ride in the golden carriage!
Whaaaaaaaaa, Whaaaaaaaaaa
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Rebl2
(17,604 posts)is an idiot and stupid and so are those he has chosen to surround himself with. If he had intelligent people around him, they would have known to have details of a ceasefire hammered out before they had a meeting.
underpants
(195,877 posts)PJMcK
(24,969 posts)I saw those earlier but appreciate the re-run!
Enjoy your weekend, amigo.
colorado_ufo
(6,218 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,390 posts)PJMcK
(24,969 posts)Their nickname for Trump is Pele because he kicks so many golf balls.
Borogove
(600 posts)PJMcK
(24,969 posts)Everything in his orbit is a facade. There is never any depth to the things in Trumps pathetic existence.
Sneederbunk
(17,390 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,012 posts)malaise
(294,942 posts)Failed to stop the Epsteins flow
slightlv
(7,670 posts)as well as Putin's next marching orders.
Mblaze
(963 posts)Aid and abet each other.
czarjak
(13,545 posts)Faux pas
(16,266 posts)He was there to help putin give us, and the world, THE FINGER.
GoodRaisin
(10,836 posts)Hes surrounded himself with yes people instead of experienced people who will tell him hes about to step in shit. The whole lot of them are clueless.
Boomerproud
(9,246 posts)red dog 1
(32,845 posts)(Is he dead yet?)
Evolve Dammit
(21,693 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,141 posts)He should be in jail.
SheltieLover
(79,289 posts)pwb
(12,585 posts)Look everywhere else.
niyad
(131,309 posts)Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)Trueblue1968
(19,191 posts)#TrumpSmellsLikeDeadRats !! Infested with white like maggot thingys.