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hunter

(40,679 posts)
1. I hope I live long enough to see that dam removed.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 11:36 AM
Aug 2025

Otherwise it's a ticking time bomb we're leaving to future generations who may not, if our modern industrial civilization collapses, have the capacity to remove the dam themselves.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,002 posts)
2. Isn't there just a gigantic valve somewhere that Dumb Don can order the Army Corps of Engineers...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 11:42 AM
Aug 2025

...to open and divert all of that water flowing from the Pacific Northwest into the ocean to go into the Colorado River? /s

hatrack

(64,846 posts)
3. BOR now projecting that power generation at GCD may stop as early as December 2026
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 11:44 AM
Aug 2025

Admittedly, that's their worst-case scenario across a range of forecasts, but here we are.

The reservoir is already below 30% of remaining capacity, and barring possible monsoon flash flooding, there won't be any significant rise in water level before April of next year.

https://lakepowell.water-data.com/

hatrack

(64,846 posts)
7. And Elephant Butte downstream is at a whopping 3.8% of capacity . . .
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:59 PM
Aug 2025
https://waterdatafortexas.org/reservoirs/individual/elephant-butte

But then, nothing new at Elephant Butte, really . . .

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LeftInTX

(34,232 posts)
18. That's like Medina Lake near San Antonio. I think it's been at 5% for almost 20 years now!
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 12:58 AM
Aug 2025


I think the world has basically given up on it. If it rains, people get in the lake, then it dries and everyone goes out. They can't even keep the lake stocked at all. During last month's flood there was water in the lake.

The lake is about 110 years old. It only has a capacity of 254,823 acre-feet. The lake isn't used for electricity.

VGNonly

(8,488 posts)
9. What is the actual depth of Lake Powell?
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 02:31 PM
Aug 2025

Considering the rate of sedimentation, the real amount of water capacity could be far less.

hatrack

(64,846 posts)
10. Varies by location - the original gradient of the Colorado was 2' per mile . . .
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 02:50 PM
Aug 2025

Maximum depth was about 550 feet at the face of the dam when it first filled in 1980 (and it took 17 years to fill the reservoir).

It was designed with capacity of 27 million acre-feet. It's now down to about 25 million acre-feet capacity, though that's at full pool, which is hasn't hit since the 1990s.

In terms of water it's actually storing now, it's about 7.2 million-acre-feet, so less than one-third of remaining capacity.

VGNonly

(8,488 posts)
11. I checked with the sedimentation rate.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 06:41 PM
Aug 2025

They estimated about 6.7% of Lake Powell is now filled with sediment.

Where I live in Ohio we've only had 0.06" of rain for the whole month of August.

hatrack

(64,846 posts)
15. This came out about 10 years ago - it's a more general look at the end of the age of dams . ..
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 06:31 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

A really excellent introduction to a big and complicated topic.

hatrack

(64,846 posts)
14. "We will let people in the future worry about that" - Floyd Dominy, Commissioner of Reclamation
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 05:57 PM
Aug 2025

That's the thing about the future - eventually, it arrives.

Xolodno

(7,349 posts)
16. He wanted to build a dam just outside the Grand Canyon National Park boundaries.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:30 PM
Aug 2025

Even claimed the new lake would improve views of the Grand Canyon. The Sierra Club went on offense and said "would flood the Sistine Chapel just so you could get closer to view the cieling?"

If that guy saw a river, he wanted to dam it.

Hetch Hetchy is another I like to see deconstructed. Granted its still needed, but several smaller and modern dams can do the same further down. Of course it will take ages to restore the area.

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