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riversedge

(81,541 posts)
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:38 AM Aug 2025

BREAKING: European Commission Pres. U. von der Leyen puts forward Europe's position before tomorrow's USA-Ukraine-Europ

Take that you old war criminal Putin!


BREAKING:

European Commission Pres. U. von der Leyen puts forward Europe’s position before tomorrow’s USA-Ukraine-Europe meeting with Trump. Key points:

- No de jure territorial changes
- USA + EU security guarantees
- Increased military production
- Sanctions
- No limitations on Ukraine’s military. Neither on their numbers, their own military production nor on weapons shipments from its Western allies






Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
·
56m
I had an important meeting with President of the European Commission @vonderleyen
in Brussels. Significant support for Ukraine in the context of the upcoming meeting with President Trump.

Today, together and in several formats, we are determining what we will discuss in Washington, D. C. It is crucial that Europe remains as united as it was in 2022. This unity helps bring a just peace closer, and it must remain strong.

We agreed on the necessity of a ceasefire for subsequent diplomatic steps, effective security guarantees for Ukraine, and continued sanctions pressure on Russia to limit its future potential.

I thank Ursula personally and the whole of Europe that supports us and our quest for a just end to this war.




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BREAKING: European Commission Pres. U. von der Leyen puts forward Europe's position before tomorrow's USA-Ukraine-Europ (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2025 OP
No red carpet for her. Sneederbunk Aug 2025 #1
I kinda like blue better anyway. ananda Aug 2025 #12
Or blue and gold. Amaryllis Aug 2025 #17
Yeah! ananda Aug 2025 #19
That's fine with me. I HATE red! n/t ReRe Aug 2025 #32
The piece of shit will threaten them with higher tariffs if they don't say nice things about Putin dalton99a Aug 2025 #2
I hope they tell him in no uncertain terms MLWR Aug 2025 #11
I have a feeling they're going to tell him exactly what they think, about a lot of things! ShazzieB Aug 2025 #21
They are going snow him with unending praise speak easy Aug 2025 #22
It may be necessary to shake things up, Mr. Mustard 2023 Aug 2025 #24
🔥 Ukrainian partisans torched a railway relay cabinet in occupied Luhansk, Ukraine. riversedge Aug 2025 #3
All these cities are located in Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the so-called #Donbas. All these cities have bee riversedge Aug 2025 #4
Europe just drew the line. No land for Putin. No gag orders on Ukraine. Trump can play lapdog, but the EU isn't handing riversedge Aug 2025 #5
EU leaders are coming to WH in full force to support Zelensky just in case his meeting with Trump blows up again or he g riversedge Aug 2025 #6
The way it's shaping up: Zelenskyy and EU leaders on one side of the bargaining table, Putin and Trump on the other. sop Aug 2025 #37
And that's what you call leadership. Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #7
Trump has been put in hos place by a woman dlk Aug 2025 #8
The changing of the guard. Europe is leader bronxiteforever Aug 2025 #9
Honestly, I've never seen Europe this united in my lifetime. paleotn Aug 2025 #10
They know this story...we don't (or don't care).They understand what comes next if they do not stand together and fight. Scalded Nun Aug 2025 #16
Coming to put Liddle Donny in timeout! tanyev Aug 2025 #13
Unlike KRASNOV: Clarity, credibility, forthrightness, the correct side of justice. UTUSN Aug 2025 #14
Hey, Krasnov...Either join us or move those lips to the side. We are going to kick Putin's ass, not kiss it. Scalded Nun Aug 2025 #15
Nice to see Europe with a united front doing the right thing. Martin68 Aug 2025 #18
Hey pedo chief Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #20
I'll be surprised if he meeting even happens. EndlessMaze Aug 2025 #23
She's a hero of mine! wolfie001 Aug 2025 #25
I have said for years now DFW Aug 2025 #36
Tomorrow may be a historic shitshow, and I can't see Trump coming out of it looking good. Doodley Aug 2025 #26
Does Trump know what 'de Jure' means? Captain Zero Aug 2025 #27
French mustard Kaleva Aug 2025 #28
Once Trump finds out it means "by law" or "by right," it will replace "Thank you for your attention to this matter!" sop Aug 2025 #38
The only European position that matters is them putting boots on the ground in Ukraine Renew Deal Aug 2025 #29
This ought to be interesting HighFired49 Aug 2025 #30
Poor Donnie. BidenRocks Aug 2025 #31
I hope to God that Stupid doesn't try ReRe Aug 2025 #33
Are Krasnov and putin planning on splitting the profits kkmarie Aug 2025 #34
Are Krasnov and putin planning on splitting the profits kkmarie Aug 2025 #35
The Twitter responses to this Cosmocat Aug 2025 #39

dalton99a

(95,269 posts)
2. The piece of shit will threaten them with higher tariffs if they don't say nice things about Putin
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:43 AM
Aug 2025

Just watch

MLWR

(1,076 posts)
11. I hope they tell him in no uncertain terms
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:35 AM
Aug 2025

to stick his fucking tariffs where the sun don't shine.

ShazzieB

(22,882 posts)
21. I have a feeling they're going to tell him exactly what they think, about a lot of things!
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 01:15 PM
Aug 2025

And he's going to be SO outnumbered, he won't know what to do! I wish I could be a 🪰 fly on the wall!

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
22. They are going snow him with unending praise
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 01:27 PM
Aug 2025

like they did at the NATO summit, to get him on side, to change his mind, like he did on NATO.

Mr. Mustard 2023

(364 posts)
24. It may be necessary to shake things up,
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 05:12 PM
Aug 2025

and lay down markers. Trump needs to be seen as weak, and calling him out while saying no is important. Europe's economy might shrink without our goods, but they will eat, dance and prosper anyway, and they won't have the yoke of Trump around their necks.

riversedge

(81,541 posts)
3. 🔥 Ukrainian partisans torched a railway relay cabinet in occupied Luhansk, Ukraine.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:47 AM
Aug 2025


‪@igorsushko.bsky.social‬
🔥 Ukrainian partisans torched a railway relay cabinet in occupied Luhansk, Ukraine.

🔥 Ukrainian partisans torched a railway relay cabinet in occupied Luhansk, Ukraine.

Igor Sushko (@igorsushko.bsky.social) 2025-08-17T06:24:54.072Z



Just a minor pinprick but one that delays military supplies & diverts troops from the front to guard the railway lines. It all helps prove that Putin's not winning & that Trump is bloody stupid to even think that he is, let alone withdraw support from Ukraine to get worthless nonexisting "deals".

(@ovalpillbox.bsky.social) 2025-08-17T06:45:25.973Z



From Google today:
How much of Luhansk is under Russian control?
Russia controls about 46,570 sq km (17,981 sq miles), or 88 percent, of the territory known as Donbas, made up of the Luhansk and Donbas regions. Russia occupies almost all of Luhansk and three-quarters of Donetsk.3 days ago



riversedge

(81,541 posts)
4. All these cities are located in Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the so-called #Donbas. All these cities have bee
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:50 AM
Aug 2025

Square profile picture
MFA of Ukraine 🇺🇦
@MFA_Ukraine
·
18h
All these cities are located in Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the so-called #Donbas.

All these cities have been already reduced to ashes by the Russian army.

All these cities were once full of Ukrainians – children, families. Ukrainians whom Russian war criminals have either killed, captured, forcibly transferred, or driven from their homes under relentless attacks – now cynically calling a "brotherly nation".

Having left nothing but ruins behind, Putin still seeks to seize and destroy more, to turn new cities into the same lifeless wasteland. Russia’s war is not just against Ukraine’s territory – it is against the very right of Ukrainians to exist.

The U.S., European and other partners have the strength to make Russia stop. Strong, coordinated actions grounded in justice, sovereignty, and Ukraine’s territorial integrity will bring a just and lasting peace




riversedge

(81,541 posts)
5. Europe just drew the line. No land for Putin. No gag orders on Ukraine. Trump can play lapdog, but the EU isn't handing
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:02 AM
Aug 2025

Europe just drew the line.
No land for Putin. No gag orders on Ukraine.
Trump can play lapdog, but the EU isn’t handing Russia a victory.






Europe draws its red lines in steel, while the White House appears to be sketching its own in disappearing ink. A curious diplomatic strategy: pre-negotiating an ally's surrender before the summit even begins.

After meeting Putin on Aug 15, Trump reportedly backed a plan for Ukraine to cede Donbas—directly defying Europe's stance. As US support wanes and Kyiv is forced to *purchase* arms, Sec. Rubio admitted on Aug 17 that US life "won't be fundamentally altered" if peace fails.

When an admin treats allied sovereignty as a bargaining chip with an adversary, it's not deal-making. It's abdication.

riversedge

(81,541 posts)
6. EU leaders are coming to WH in full force to support Zelensky just in case his meeting with Trump blows up again or he g
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:09 AM
Aug 2025

I wonder if Margorie Taylor Greene's boyfriend will make note that Zelensky is not wearing a suit again?????


EU leaders are coming to WH in full force to support Zelensky just in case his meeting with Trump blows up again or he gets kicked out for not wearing a suit. They put out their wishlish but eventually, Putin won't agree unless there's land concession.👇


sop

(19,310 posts)
37. The way it's shaping up: Zelenskyy and EU leaders on one side of the bargaining table, Putin and Trump on the other.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:20 AM
Aug 2025

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
9. The changing of the guard. Europe is leader
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:26 AM
Aug 2025

of the free world. The US to take a seat and disappear into irrelevance.

Scalded Nun

(1,731 posts)
16. They know this story...we don't (or don't care).They understand what comes next if they do not stand together and fight.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 12:21 PM
Aug 2025

Scalded Nun

(1,731 posts)
15. Hey, Krasnov...Either join us or move those lips to the side. We are going to kick Putin's ass, not kiss it.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 12:18 PM
Aug 2025
 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
20. Hey pedo chief
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 01:15 PM
Aug 2025

Here is your final offer. Russia packs up and gets the fuck out ukraine. They pay to rebuild ukraine over the next 50 years, and putin can escape with his life if he leaves for syria right now. Those are the conditions.

Youre next Trump

wolfie001

(7,968 posts)
25. She's a hero of mine!
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 07:50 PM
Aug 2025

Brave, honest and brilliant. The exact opposite of the fat orange imbecile.

DFW

(60,436 posts)
36. I have said for years now
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:19 AM
Aug 2025

Had it not been for Germany’s macho political culture, she would have succeeded Merkel as chancellor.

Doodley

(12,079 posts)
26. Tomorrow may be a historic shitshow, and I can't see Trump coming out of it looking good.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 07:58 PM
Aug 2025

sop

(19,310 posts)
38. Once Trump finds out it means "by law" or "by right," it will replace "Thank you for your attention to this matter!"
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:30 AM
Aug 2025

at the end of all his insane Executive Orders.

Renew Deal

(85,353 posts)
29. The only European position that matters is them putting boots on the ground in Ukraine
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 08:26 PM
Aug 2025

Everything else is for show.

HighFired49

(520 posts)
30. This ought to be interesting
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 08:52 PM
Aug 2025

I will not be surprised if Dump just walks away from this issue, especially if Putin has compromising, devastating evidence of some event(s) that puts Dump in a precarious/dangerous position (Epstein, vote rigging, fraud, etc). Unfortunately, the event possibilities are nearly limitless with this fool. If this turns out to be the case, hopefully it will be a serious lesson for this country on electing someone unfit for office. The next few days should be really interesting.

BidenRocks

(3,496 posts)
31. Poor Donnie.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 09:03 PM
Aug 2025

He lost his cards along with his marbles.

They will tell chump to shove the tariffs up his ass.

Then issue a full embargo on America and all ships at sea.

No trade, no tariffs!

kkmarie

(344 posts)
34. Are Krasnov and putin planning on splitting the profits
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 04:36 AM
Aug 2025
Yes, the Donbas region of Ukraine is known for its rich mineral deposits, particularly coal and iron ore. This abundance has historically made it a key industrial and energy production center for Ukraine. The region's mineral wealth is a significant factor in the ongoing conflict and its potential impact on the global supply chain for critical minerals.


https://www.cirsd.org/en/horizons/horizons-winter-2025-issue-no-29/the-mineral-wars#:~:text=The%20Donbas%2C%20encompassing%20the%20resource,European%20industrial%20and%20resource%20powerhouse.

kkmarie

(344 posts)
35. Are Krasnov and putin planning on splitting the profits
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 05:32 AM
Aug 2025
Yes, the Donbas region of Ukraine is known for its rich mineral deposits, particularly coal and iron ore. This abundance has historically made it a key industrial and energy production center for Ukraine. The region's mineral wealth is a significant factor in the ongoing conflict and its potential impact on the global supply chain for critical minerals.


https://www.cirsd.org/en/horizons/horizons-winter-2025-issue-no-29/the-mineral-wars#:~:text=The%20Donbas%2C%20encompassing%20the%20resource,European%20industrial%20and%20resource%20powerhouse.

Cosmocat

(15,469 posts)
39. The Twitter responses to this
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:40 AM
Aug 2025

are insane ...

It is unfathomable how people in this day and age so eagerly choose to self gaslight themselves in a way that is completely in contrast to actual reality.

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