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speak easy

(12,595 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:21 AM Aug 2025

OK - I'm going to stick my neck out here. You can all come back and laugh at me,

but I think today's meeting is going to be OK. The EU/UK/NATO contingent are pros; lifetime politicians, for whom dealing with difficult customers is their bread and butter. Trump came out of the NATO summit feeling like a king - NATO he was said wonderful - a 180 on his firm view that they were only a bunch of grifters (like himself).

Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the other hand has relatively little political experience in negotiation. He was swept to power on a wave of popular support that gave him a colossal mandate. He is a quick study, but experience can't be bought.

So I think this summit will not be anything like disaster. We will see.

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OK - I'm going to stick my neck out here. You can all come back and laugh at me, (Original Post) speak easy Aug 2025 OP
I'm hoping JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #1
The will snow him. speak easy Aug 2025 #2
Vance is probably JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #3
I predict Trump will forget Ukraine and Russia completely and brag that he's so tough all of Europe had to come to him. Vinca Aug 2025 #4
They have come armed. usonian Aug 2025 #5
LOL! speak easy Aug 2025 #6
The Europeans are desparate to prove relevance Renew Deal Aug 2025 #7

JustAnotherGen

(37,999 posts)
3. Vance is probably
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 08:03 AM
Aug 2025

Traveling to some far off location for his travel blog - so he can't be there to act like his toadie. Or will he be?

Vinca

(53,812 posts)
4. I predict Trump will forget Ukraine and Russia completely and brag that he's so tough all of Europe had to come to him.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 08:11 AM
Aug 2025

Renew Deal

(84,980 posts)
7. The Europeans are desparate to prove relevance
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 10:06 AM
Aug 2025

While at the same time, not willing or able to put boots on the ground. That puts them in a tough position

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