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riversedge

(81,541 posts)
8. Trump says we-the US are not giving anything to but we ARE Selling wearpons to support the war. whow
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 01:37 PM
Aug 2025

maxsolomon

(39,127 posts)
5. He's such a narcissist.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 01:33 PM
Aug 2025

Biden doesn't own this war. He doesn't own Putin's paranoia.

He owns Ukraine not being overrrun.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,256 posts)
6. I'd bet Trump/GOP was working with Putin all along to invade. GOP: Giddy Over Putin.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 01:33 PM
Aug 2025

Ukraine would not fabricate investigations into Bidens. This is Trump GOP war, working with Russia/Putin.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
12. how's history going to judge Trump's insistence in February that Ukraine should have ceded land before being invaded
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 01:44 PM
Aug 2025

...partly on the pretext that Ukraine was planning on asking to join NATO?

Speaking after talks between US and Russia on ending the war, the US President told Ukraine: “You should have never started it, you could have made a deal … I could have made a deal that would have given them almost all of the land.”



...or, now?

After his meeting with Mr. Putin, Mr. Trump has dropped his demand for an immediate cease-fire and believes a rapid peace treaty can be negotiated, so long as Mr. Zelensky agrees to cede the rest of the Donbas region to Russia, even those areas not occupied by Russian troops.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/16/world/europe/trump-putin-ukraine-land-swap.html

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