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misanthrope

(9,629 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 03:18 PM Aug 2025

I trust nothing from Trump's Ukrainian kabuki

Trump is leaning hard into the theatrical pomp of the last week solely in service to himself. It is no secret that he craves a Nobel Peace Prize because Barack Obama won one. We all know it.

We're asked to believe that a man who wanted to use live ammunition on his own citizens now cares about how many people are dying in Ukraine. If he is so compassionate, then why did he agree to slash USAID, condemning millions to pain and death?

This is about Donald Trump's sadly warped ego and nothing else. So from that foundational standpoint, this negotiation is brokered in bad faith. There is also something more ominous lurking beneath it.

I think were Trump to tick off the coveted international honor from his bucket list, he would no longer feel the need to present a more palatable and compassionate image to the world. He would dive headlong into his worst instincts, the cruelty, the dictatorial regime, the random mayhem and lashing out at whatever displeases him in the moment. His id would run wild.

So the big question concerns Putin. To what extent would he be willing to go along with Trump's desires? Essentially, he doesn't care about Trump, who he sees as a stooge. However, Trump holds a value to Putin in that he is a dangerous agent of chaos to all the entities Putin opposes. Trump is a threat to the European order and the stability of the United States. With Trump acting at his worst capacities, he would further wreck the U.S. economy, would weaken the strength of liberal democracy around the globe and wreak havoc to NATO.

Should Putin relinquish a little bit of something to earn Trump a gold medallion in Oslo, Putin would later be free to do whatever he wanted with no worry of resistance from Trump. Putin could redouble efforts into Ukraine and Eastern Europe. He could sit back and watch as the U.S. fully descended into banana republic territory, perhaps even breaking out into intermittent and scattered violence from civil war. Trying to help Trump win his desired prize could be the smartest long play Putin ever made.

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I trust nothing from Trump's Ukrainian kabuki (Original Post) misanthrope Aug 2025 OP
shithole claims he settled 6 wars recently........................ Lovie777 Aug 2025 #1
Pedo 34 in Alaska: Dave Bowman Aug 2025 #2
How could anyone? spanone Aug 2025 #3
No argument from me. Trump is one sick in the head MFr. flying_wahini Aug 2025 #4
I trust nothing from trump... Wounded Bear Aug 2025 #5
Trump is Putin's missile lame54 Aug 2025 #6
Bingo misanthrope Aug 2025 #7

flying_wahini

(8,281 posts)
4. No argument from me. Trump is one sick in the head MFr.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 03:27 PM
Aug 2025

Trump is ruining our country week to week. Our Treasury will be empty and the citizens without any jobs, food or govt help. No support of any kind and Putin will be so thrilled.

We wont survive Trump’s full term.

misanthrope

(9,629 posts)
7. Bingo
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 03:47 PM
Aug 2025

That's why I wouldn't be completely gobsmacked if Putin uncharacteristically cooperated in aid to Trump's short term goal, in order to enact more long-lasting damage to the U.S. and Europe.

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