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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 04:35 PM Aug 2025

Theft or civil disobedience? 16 books go missing after Shelbyville church encourages checkout and no return lgbtq books

https://kentuckylantern.com/2025/08/18/theft-or-civil-disobedience/

Theft or civil disobedience?
16 volumes go missing after Shelbyville church urges members to check out, never return library books about LGBTQ+ people


SHELBYVILLE – A local church is urging its members to permanently remove books from the Shelby County Public Library by checking them out and never returning them. The books portray gay characters and historical figures or explore LGBTQ+ themes.
Pamela Wilson Federspiel, who has been director of the library in downtown Shelbyville for 34 years, says the action is tantamount to “stealing.”

But three leaders of the Reformation Church of Shelbyville defend what they call an “act of civil disobedience.”

“Yes — we have urged Christians, both locally and across the country, to search their libraries for books that promote sodomy, gender confusion and rebellion against God — and if found, to check them out and never return them as an act of civil disobedience,” pastors Jerry Dorris and Tanner Cartwright and Austin Keeler, an evangelist with the church mission, Reformation Frontline Missions, recently told the Lantern in an email.
The library has “lost” 16 books valued at $410.85 since a member of the church checked them out last year with due dates in late June 2024, said Federspiel. Some of the books were written for children, some for adults. (The list of books is at the bottom of this story.)
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Theft or civil disobedience? 16 books go missing after Shelbyville church encourages checkout and no return lgbtq books (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2025 OP
Neither. johnp3907 Aug 2025 #1
Forgetting 1 little thing D_Master81 Aug 2025 #2
It's also theft xmas74 Aug 2025 #4
So many people are wedded to the concept a book ban looks like only one thing Torchlight Aug 2025 #3
Bringing in prageru slop videos to replace book learning Demovictory9 Aug 2025 #5
Yes. They're stealing, costing the taxpayers of county replacement costs plus staff time, spreading hate, Timeflyer Aug 2025 #10
If this so-called church burnt down LS0999 Aug 2025 #6
Fuck this church and their worthess leaders. What an exctremely shitty thing to do. Initech Aug 2025 #7
Great idea. KentuckyWoman Aug 2025 #8
They're doing this because they love you -- and they're good people. Duncan Grant Aug 2025 #9
Steal their church and don't give it back. harumph Aug 2025 #11
Both. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #12

D_Master81

(2,684 posts)
2. Forgetting 1 little thing
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 04:43 PM
Aug 2025

I mean I get your “plan” here but aren’t you forgetting 1 thing if you’re doing this? The library has your record of checking it out so they will simply fine you for a “lost book” status and use the fine to replace it. Are you simply going to not pay the fine then and lose your ability to check out items from the library?

Torchlight

(7,059 posts)
3. So many people are wedded to the concept a book ban looks like only one thing
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 04:47 PM
Aug 2025

Silent removal, curriculum avoidance, opt-outs, administrative pressure, funding and policy restraints, challenges that purposefully never resolve, etc. They're all the same needle on the same gauge. It's all just different faces of the same damn problem, and pretending otherwise is a convenient lie ossified minds keep telling the frogs as the water slowly boils.

Timeflyer

(3,795 posts)
10. Yes. They're stealing, costing the taxpayers of county replacement costs plus staff time, spreading hate,
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 06:49 PM
Aug 2025

depriving others of materials they may not be able to obtain any other way, and probably teaching their children that god said it's ok to take the law into their self-righteous hands.

KentuckyWoman

(7,417 posts)
8. Great idea.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 05:45 PM
Aug 2025

The library orders replacement books. Author makes more money. The idiot that doesn't return the book gets cut off from the library until the return the book or pay for it.

Duncan Grant

(8,938 posts)
9. They're doing this because they love you -- and they're good people.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 06:43 PM
Aug 2025

After much prayer, we’ve decided you should do as we say. This comes from a place of love. You’re welcome!

Ms. Toad

(38,824 posts)
12. Both.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 02:05 AM
Aug 2025

Civil disobedience generally involves violating the law for what the person engaging in civil disobedience believes is a greater good.

While I didn't agree with the goal, it doesn't change the nature of the act.

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