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David__77

(24,860 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:06 PM Aug 2025

'It doesn't matter now if they are children': Ex-IDF chief said 50 Palestinian deaths for every 10/7 victim 'necessary'

The former head of military intelligence for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) called the deaths of 50,000 Palestinians in Gaza “necessary and required for future generations”, in leaked audio.

Aharon Haliva can be heard in newly released audio clips saying that for every person who died during 7 October, “50 Palestinians must die, even if they are children”. The audio clips were aired by Israeli broadcaster Channel 12.

“ The fact that there are already 50,000 dead in Gaza is necessary and required for future generations. OK, you humiliated, you slaughtered, you murdered, everything is true,” said the former military chief.

It is unclear when the statements were made, but Gaza’s health ministry has recently reported that more than 62,000 Palestinians have been killed since 7 October 2023, when Hamas launched an attack on southern Israel that resulted in the deaths of around 1,200 people.



https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/middle-east/aharon-haliva-palestine-gaza-israel-b2809732.html

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Dave Bowman

(7,458 posts)
1. 50 for 1. So Palestinians are sub-humans? I wonder how someone like that pos can sleep at night.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:25 PM
Aug 2025

FHRRK

(1,410 posts)
3. which is similar to Christian and Muslim beliefs
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:58 PM
Aug 2025

What I don't get, is we have some people here that support this ignorant shit.

Edit to be clear, there are people who support Bibi/Isreal actions no matter what. Seems like it disgusts millions of Isreali's.

Intractable

(2,392 posts)
7. Jews, Christians, and Muslims are all people of the book of Abraham.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 01:03 AM
Aug 2025

Each has their own version of god to make them feel special and justify doing horrible things to others.

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artemisia1

(1,908 posts)
6. The true Gaza death count is probably in the hundreds of thousands already. Very sad that there are still apologists
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 12:48 AM
Aug 2025

here for this abomination of genocide and atrocity.

Bettie

(19,881 posts)
10. Once they get better numbers they'll
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:34 PM
Aug 2025

start saying that instead of 50, it's 500 or 5,000 that need to die for every one of theirs.

AloeVera

(4,418 posts)
9. "OK, you humiliated, you slaughtered, you murdered, everything is true,"
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:29 PM
Aug 2025

So said the guy who was Head of military intelligence during the first 6 months of the war.

He knew. They knew. And people defending the genocide knew. All the evidence was there.







Prairie Gates

(8,479 posts)
11. They've already surpassed that and more
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:42 PM
Aug 2025

Who is he kidding? They're going to be approaching 50 children per 10/7 victim, exclusive of adults or anyone else.

AloeVera

(4,418 posts)
13. Unimaginabe numbers of people have been "disappeared"...
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:00 PM
Aug 2025

Under rubble, or bulldozed under in buildings or the street, in mass graves and masses of unmarked lone graves. Or who died of malnutrition in their tents, died of preventable or contagious diseases etc. These people have not been counted. Only the dead that died in hospital or were brought to the hospitals are counted. Only those that could be matched with an ID number are counted.

In active war zones with bombing, shelling, droning and sniping, with most hospitals shut down, who is going to take the dead to a far away hospital? Or the gravely injured, even? They will be buried in place - in the best-case scenario. The worst case is really bad.

I read that the IDF estimates the current population at just under 1.9 million. It was 2.3 million pre-genocide.

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