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mr715

(4,171 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:19 PM Aug 2025

University concerns

So I am a doctoral candidate in a well respected lab... Our university president is a freshly installed patronage appointee of Gov. DeSantis.

She is giving us a visit and I do not know how to behave. Big university, so these visits are rare and meaningful. I figure it is good office politics to be a well behaved student and do the yeoman's work - just do my job. If she wants to talk, talk about the job and the university mission. But I don't want to take photos with her.

I'm worried that bad behavior may adversely impact funding, of which I am heavily reliant.

At the same time, the role of university president isn't actively political in sensu stricto so am I wrong for feeling gross when a DeSantis apparatchik comes a knocking.

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spooky3

(38,874 posts)
1. Retired full professor here--I like your plan and understand
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:25 PM
Aug 2025

Your feelings. I’m very sorry you are being put in that position. Good luck on your continued success.

mr715

(4,171 posts)
2. Thanks!
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:28 PM
Aug 2025

My PI is the one in the tougher position obviously. He doesn't get the opportunity to hide behind shelving.

I'm worried if I elect out of a photo, other people will follow and it'll become a thing...

spooky3

(38,874 posts)
7. I think it would be ok if you said you'd rather not be in the photos
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:14 PM
Aug 2025

(Without saying why) and they will probably accept that.

A lot of people are concerned with online privacy or just don’t like being in photos, so it shouldn’t raise suspicions.

multigraincracker

(38,053 posts)
3. Great question.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:29 PM
Aug 2025

Unless you are in a political field, I would try to focus on your field and if asked tell them you just focus on your work and stay out of politics.

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
4. Act in a polite, well mannered way.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:34 PM
Aug 2025

Wear suitable clothing. Clean, neat, presentable

Do what your supervisor tells you to do.
If you want to keep your funding, job, etc.

mr715

(4,171 posts)
5. I get the benefit of a lab coat
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:39 PM
Aug 2025

Should hide any ideology-signaling clothing.

If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting playing the long game

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
6. You've worked so hard and have taken your generals.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:59 PM
Aug 2025

You passed those and are now in the home stretch of being awarded your doctorate.

I don’t recommend you blow it all by acting out which will achieve nothing. These nazis don’t care about our opinions and will punish us.

Keep your head down and try to fade into the woodwork. Get your PhD and then you can speak out if you wish.

If you speak out now or do anything untoward you put the labs funding in jeopardy and your advisor will hang you by your toes.

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
9. Tenure will not protect anyone from Trump.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:38 PM
Aug 2025

If you work in a university system and want to keep your job you will have to stay silent.

spooky3

(38,874 posts)
10. My point was that finishing the PhD and getting a job does
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 03:24 PM
Aug 2025

Not mean one will be free to speak up without consequences.

This is in response to your saying “Get your PhD and then you can speak out if you wish.”

yardwork

(69,648 posts)
13. I have worked at research universities for a long time.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 04:47 PM
Aug 2025

I recommend that you follow this poster's advice. I would not try to avoid being in a photo, either.

Universities are under sustained attack and your PI's federal funding is at risk.

If you are asked to speak talk only about the potential good that will come of the lab's work. Talk about how grateful you are to have this opportunity to learn and contribute.

Wear professional clothes and don't make any political or social comments whatsoever.

This is true for almost everybody in a professional position. You aren't being hypocritical. Your research is your statement.

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
14. In the US military the goal is to stay alive to fight another day.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 04:57 PM
Aug 2025

Same thing we are talking about here.

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