Does anybody know... Can other states follow TX and CA, and gerrymander in time for 2026?

[BWdem4life]

If so, which ones? Both red and blue.

Bonus if you know whether this is already in progress and what the stakes are, number-wise.

Thanks in advance!

[JustAnotherGen]

1. NJ could

But it requires a change to our Constitution.

Now I'm saying that in a MAJOR election year. We have 11 weeks to go - and then we can broach the discussion.

A change to our State Constitution requires 3 months public notice and 2/3 in the Assembly and Senate.

Normally a change would require a public referendum. But if they write it correctly - it could be done by them as a Security issue. We don't HAVE to follow the rules anymore. NONE of us have to. That's status quo thinking.

Let's move fast and break things.

[Jose Garcia]

7. Democrats do not have 2/3 of the seats

in either the NJ House or Senate

[JustAnotherGen]

9. Election is coming up this November

We currently have 52 of 80 assembly seats. 53.3 is 2/3 of that.

We currently hold 25 of the 40 Senate seats: 26.67 is 2/3 of 40

We only need to pick off one Assembly Member and one Senate member to get there.

It's not IMPOSSIBLE! Keep the faith.


This was supposed to be a huge 'change' election. Don't think so.

I think it's the exact same perfect storm as we had in 2019. Magapublicans (then Republicans - but the party is something different, dark, unAmerican, and evil) have a national Magapublican party problem.

We flipped our LD-16th Democratic when it used to be all magapublican during the 1st Krasnov Admin.

[Jose Garcia]

11. I totally forgot that NJ has elections this year

[JustAnotherGen]

12. And we are very very

Close. We are super close.

[MichMan]

14. If there are no rules, why not just pass a law saying republicans are ineligible for any elected office?

[Tribetime]

19. Why follow rules they dont

[JustAnotherGen]

20. To ensure

Alina Habba Yabba Doo doesn't have a case . . . at all. Yeah - the courts ruled she's operating illegally - but no one is stopping her presence in her 'second' interim NJ Prosecutor appointment.

This also allows NJ to run down the clock. If it is too late for the Krasnov Regime to stop it . . .

[Tribetime]

39. Sorry I disagree strongly we must win the mid terms period

Or nothing else matters

[JustAnotherGen]

40. We don't disagree

When I say run down the clock - I mean timed just right so it's too late to change the ballots.

If NJ does it? We go full.court press.

[TheFarseer]

2. I've seen

Missouri, Ohio, NY, Illinois, Indiana, Florida. Probably no advantage will be gained and all it will do is make it so congress people are less accountable to voters. One wonders if that was not half the point.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. In Only two blue states would gerrymandering make a significant difference

NY and IL.

Other blue states already have all Dem reps or just 1-2 republicans.

But FL, GA and other red states could redistrict and eliminate 6-8 more Dem seats.

It could make it harder for Dems to regain the house, but if the economy continues downhill and there’s a blue wave in 2026, it’s far from certain this ploy could work for republicans.

[JustAnotherGen]

21. 3 House Members in NJ

The 7th was drawn to protect the 11th. Had it stayed as it was - Tom Malinowski would have beat Kean Jr.

Chris Smith in the 4th District and has been in Congress since 1981. He maintains a small apartment in his District -but his beautiful spacious home is in Virginia.

Jeff Van Drew in the 2nd Turned Traitor and flipped from Democratic to magapublican party in 2020.

I have absolutely no problem getting these three little fucker heads out of Congress through re-redistricting.

They are all Super Magapublicans -like die hard. They are an embarrassment and against New Jerseyans. They only care about white supremacist people in Arkansas - zero fucks about us.

[Vinca]

4. Re the lines in Texas, maybe enough Democrats should move to the other side of the line to cause the

opposite result to happen. Maybe Democratic seats could be increased by 5 with a little game play.

[Aristus]

6. Having entire precincts of Democratic voters move to new precincts is impractical in the extreme.

n/t

[Vinca]

8. That's not what I was suggesting, but never mind because it is impractical.

[ForgedCrank]

5. Frankly, I

wouldn't suggest doing the same crooked crap that they are. How would we be any better if we did?

[JustAnotherGen]

10. California isn't doing anything crooked

39.4 million people live in California.

CA has 26,927,123 Eligible voters and 22,900,896 registered voters.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/report-registration/ror-odd-year-2025

Democratic: 10,367,321
No Party: 5,116,983
Other: 1,640,236

5,776,356 Republicans

The State will be holding a referendum in November for the PEOPLE to make the decision.

Let the people of California determine who the People's House Delegates will be.

[ForgedCrank]

13. Well, by

your logic, the people ot Texas are determining who their delegates will be.
It doesn't change anything. It's the same

[JustAnotherGen]

15. Hmmm - cool story

[ForgedCrank]

16. I get it,

if I held your position on this topic, I wouldn't want to discuss details either.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. I'm thinking the same about yours

Governor Hot Wheels (am I allowed to write that or am I being a Big Meanie Poopy head?) said yesterday:

"What the Democrats have done is disgraceful and potentially illegal. If California is trying to squeeze out more republicans [sic] there will be lawsuits that overturn that."

Look up - is that Confirmation Bias for you? It's a fair question.

What he actually did was continue the mental beat down for the past 40 years to get magapublicans AND non-magapublicans to believe the reinforced message:

"Democrats have no legitimate claim to power."

[ForgedCrank]

18. Your argument

boils down to Republicans engaging in gerrymandering is wrong, but it's Ok for us to do it because that is different.
No, it's not. It's the same thing. Using different words to explain it does not change what it is

[JustAnotherGen]

22. Your argument

Boils down to deliberately misrepresenting HOW this is being done and WHY it is being done.

I get it . . . not everyone cares about Black voters. But Gavin Newsom does. It might break the brain to read that -

But it's true. The Texas magapublicans do not like Black people, and don't want people that look like me to vote.

The Californian PEOPLE who will be voting on this in November - get to tell us if they think we count and should be able to vote. Not your little dictator in Washington DC showing his white supremacist fat orange ass for the entire world to see.

i guess you are okay with the disenfranchisement of Black Americans and making us go back and re-litigate it ALL over again. BTW - my grandfather and his father ALWAYS vote in Alabama. My great grandfather was the child of slaves.

Know how they did it? They were heavily armed and took no shit when they were up in that bitch paying EVERYONE Else's way. So they went with guns.

They were awesome! I love my ancestors. They did not take shit from low key or blatant white supremacists.

[ForgedCrank]

23. So if

I am to understand you correctly, what is being done isn't a problem, it's the tools and methods used in order to do it.
It's still the same thing

[JustAnotherGen]

25. So if

I am to understand you correctly, what's being done in Texas isn't a problem for you.

You are okay with it. You think we should take it. You think Black folks who know more about defying a Racist White Supremacist Country than you ever will - should just accept this.

Well - I know who is on our side. And it's Gavin Newsom.

[ForgedCrank]

31. "I am to understand you correctly, what's being done in Texas isn't a problem for you."

How on earth does your mind extrapolate such a conclusion when I very clearly stated that I consider it both wrong and crooked?
Is this another one of those veiled accusations that I'm a secret MAGA operative because I don't march in lock step?
If so, you ain't gettin' no virgin, it's the go-to here when I challenge anything I consider unethical.

[JustAnotherGen]

32. Your ethics and morality

May be superior -

But your political instincts are from the 1950's.

ETA - You have NO solutions. Not a single one.

Okay - are you happy now. You are superior to even President Obama. You do you boo!

[ForgedCrank]

35. The Constitution

says a lot of things. One premise is that the majority does not rule the rights of the individual. Thats one of the core purposes of The Constitution. In this argument, that revolves around representation.
In a state such as TX is currently administered by Republicans, that majority does not allow for stripping said states Democrats of representation. This is unethical, regardless of what President Obama has to say about legalities. Two things can be true at the same time. If California Democrats (who are the majority leadership there) vote to redistrict for the purpose of diminishing the representation of the states Republicans, that is unethical and goes against the spirit of the system overall. They may be dirty Republicans, but they are entitled as individuals to representation as much as anyone else.

[JustAnotherGen]

36. This doesn't end with everyone hugging it out.

Again - you keep insisting that it is the Democratic Assembly, Senate and Governor in California who will make the decision:

If California Democrats (who are the majority leadership there) vote to redistrict for the purpose of diminishing the representation of the states Republicans, that is unethical and goes against the spirit of the system overall.

The people of California.
The voters.
Will.
Be.
Voting.
In.
A.
Referendum.
On.
November.
5th.
2025.
Every eligible California Voter and Tax Payer gets to vote on this. Not just a few of the Krasnov's Fascist Toadies.

I would also say this.

One premise is that the majority does not rule the rights of the individual.

That's a fairy tale about individual rights? WHO gets those rights?

Serious question: Who gets those rights?

[ForgedCrank]

38. We all

get these rights.
Ref The Constitution that you used in your argument a few posts back.
The Constitution provides a mechanism to distribute the balance of representation, not elimination it, and that is what gerrymandering does.
It's wrong, and it doesn't matter how you frame it, it will remain wrong.
If you consider it to be acceptable practice, then you have to accept that what TX Republicans are doing is also acceptable. I disagree with that premise. It is not acceptable.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. PS - President Obama is a Constitutional Scholar

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/politics/2025/08/20/obama-backs-newsom-redistricting-plan-responsible-approach/85750045007/
Barack Obama endorses Gavin Newsom’s California redistricting plan as “responsible”
Former President Barack Obama endorsed Gov. Gavin Newsom’s redistricting plan, calling it a “responsible approach” as Texas Republicans push new maps.

[yardwork]

24. It's not about being morally better.

Politics isn't about morality. Toss that idea out. That myth is how Republicans have destroyed our democracy.

This is a war for our democracy. If we let the Republicans get a super-majority in Congress AND in most state legislatures, they will rewrite the U.S. Constitution and we won't like what it says, at all.

Kiss the Bill of Rights goodbye.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. Folks

Can't keep lighting matches on a windy day and think they are going to light a fire to keep them warm.

It's going to take flamethrowers.

[yardwork]

29. I don't want to sit in Gitmo and tell myself "at least I didn't sink to their level."

I'd rather fight for democracy.

[JustAnotherGen]

30. We

Have a lot of lambs that need to wake up and smell the wolf.

[Scrivener7]

27. Maintaining a level playing field is the opposite of crooked.

Not maintaining a level playing field is just exposing your throat to the blade.

[JustAnotherGen]

33. Seriously

And the folks saying this?

They have no solution to stop Texas.

[EnergizedLib]

34. I'm so worried we're not going to win

[JustAnotherGen]

37. Don't worry

The lambs have the answers.

It's like . . . magic.

Everything will just magically work out in our favor because we are morally better.

IF that was actually true? Krasnov would have never won in the 1st place.