So I see the League of Women voters of California is telling people to vote no on redistricting.

[lostincalifornia]

President of the League of Women voters, Gloria Chun Hoo wrote and editorial in the Sacramento Bee talking about "fairness"

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article311506653.html

and they are sending mailers out and advertisements throughout the state pushing that.

So WTF are the Democrats supposed to do, just roll over and let the republicans do EXACTLY this in red states while securing a republican majority in the house for decades?

The League of Women Voters say they are "nonpartisan", and pride themselves on that. Well, they can take that nonpartisan bullshit, and put it where the sun don't shine. Our Democracy is hanging on by a thread, and they are effectively preaching to just let the fascists take over.

As I get older, I am less and less tolerant of idiocy, and what the League of Women Voters is suggesting is pure idiocy.

They have just motivated me to donate to the Newsom redistricting proposition.

I tried to call them to voice my opposition to their view. The line is busy. Hopefully it is California voters telling them they are full of it.

https://lwvc.org/contact/

[Lovie777]

1. I'm voting yes......

[lostincalifornia]

2. Good, so am I, and I hope most California voters aren't folled by this nonesense of "fairness". That went out the

door with trump.

[obamanut2012]

7. My wife and I are also voting "Yes"

[LoisB]

25. I am also voting "yes". We can cancel out Texas.

[BuddhaGirl]

45. My husband and I are voting YES

Proud Californian here, born and bred

[airplaneman]

49. Another yes here too

[dem4decades]

3. Didn't Trump tell the League of Woman Voters to shove their debates up their ass?

Did they learn nothing?

[Justice matters.]

34. Sacramento... I am sure they have right-wing members.

The CEO doesn't want to lose their contributions...

Follow the money, again and again and again,

ef them.

[dem4decades]

35. I didn't realize it was in California, that makes it worse.

[JustAnotherGen]

4. They are status quo thinkers

They think if we say eebie jeebie and take it back - that this all goes away.

This is not a time to play nice.

The rules don't apply anymore folks.

[Hornedfrog2000]

16. We are ALL fucked if we dont stop them

Gay, minority, women, children, seniors, poor, etc. Etc. Etc.

This is bigger than any one group of people. They will literally start killing us. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs pushed to the side because they havent been paying attention.

[PSPS]

5. And (some) people still wonder why democrats have been losing so many registered voters.

From yesterday's NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/20/us/politics/democratic-party-voter-registration-crisis.html

The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters long before they even go to the polls.

Of the 30 states that track voter registration by political party, Democrats lost ground to Republicans in every single one between the 2020 and 2024 elections — and often by a lot.

That four-year swing toward the Republicans adds up to 4.5 million voters, a deep political hole that could take years for Democrats to climb out from.

[SouthBayDem]

37. So the decline in registered Democrats from 2020-24

is because of the League of Women Voters opposing a bill passed by Democrats in 2025?

Am I on F**e R******c or something?

[Ritabert]

6. Does anybody care about their opinion on anything?

We're fighting for democracy here. Screw "fairness".

[Ocelot II]

52. The mailer lied. LWV isn't part of the opposition.

https://lwvc.org/mailer/

[Ritabert]

61. Thanks for the update.

[Ursus Rex]

8. Naive and ignorant at best.

Malicious and anti-democrat is the next stage. The time for theory and idealism at all costs is not now.

[ananda]

9. So what? Are they all ladies who lunch now?

I joined LWV as soon I was eligible to vote.
They put me to work at polling sites and it was fun.

[Zambero]

10. They should have checked with Texas first

Texas is pedal to the metal with their gerrymandering scheme, without voter approval. Hopefully, LWV will flood Texas mailboxes as well, advising voters that the concept of "fairness" does no longer matters there.

[LeftInTX]

46. They vehemently oppose Texas gerrymandering!

Tell Texas Lawmakers: Don’t Mess with Our Democracy!



The Texas Legislature is rushing through a flawed, mid-decade redistricting process, without new census data, transparency, or meaningful public input.



As part of theFair Maps Texas Coalition, the League of Women Voters of Texas is standing up against this power grab.



Last week, more than 3,000 Texans testified at redistricting hearings across the state, and over 4,000 public comments were submitted. Clickhereto view the testimony given by LWV Texas at the hearing in Austin. The message was loud and clear: the process is broken,and many believe it's being rigged on purpose..



On Wednesday, lawmakers released a new congressional map thst is gerrymandered, discriminatory, and drafted in secret. Now, they're rushing it through committee, leaving voters little time to review or respond before it's finalized.



Here’s what’s wrong:

Racial gerrymandering is being used to silence communities of color.
Hearings are announced with minimal notice.
Proposed maps are released just hours before public testimony.
Private D.C. lawyers are advising lawmakers behind closed doors.


We deserve better. Texas deserves better.



Join the League of Women Voters of Texas in demanding a fair, transparent redistricting process that serves all Texans, not just political insiders!



📣 Make your voice heard! Make it count.


https://www.lwvtexas.org/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=979482&item_id=122348gsc.tab=0

[Tetrachloride]

11. flee for your lives

[Tetrachloride]

12. bonk ... Prepare for battle

[Grins]

13. And the League of Women Voters - IN TEXAS - said what?

She should have called for independent 3rd party drawing voting district maps - in all 50 states!

There are several universities and privacy companies that can do that.

[markodochartaigh]

30. That is a very good point.

There are League of Women Voters in every state. What do they say in Texas? Have they put out a statement. Are they just being suppressed by Texas' reich-wing media?

Maybe they could do a joint press conference with their California colleagues. They better do it quickly though, if the Republicans have their way any disloyal, "both sides", groups may be disbanded.

[LeftInTX]

47. They vehemently oppose the Texas gerrymandering.

Greetings!



Tell Texas Lawmakers: Don’t Mess with Our Democracy!



The Texas Legislature is rushing through a flawed, mid-decade redistricting process, without new census data, transparency, or meaningful public input.



As part of theFair Maps Texas Coalition, the League of Women Voters of Texas is standing up against this power grab.



Last week, more than 3,000 Texans testified at redistricting hearings across the state, and over 4,000 public comments were submitted. Clickhereto view the testimony given by LWV Texas at the hearing in Austin. The message was loud and clear: the process is broken,and many believe it's being rigged on purpose..



On Wednesday, lawmakers released a new congressional map thst is gerrymandered, discriminatory, and drafted in secret. Now, they're rushing it through committee, leaving voters little time to review or respond before it's finalized.



Here’s what’s wrong:

Racial gerrymandering is being used to silence communities of color.
Hearings are announced with minimal notice.
Proposed maps are released just hours before public testimony.
Private D.C. lawyers are advising lawmakers behind closed doors.


We deserve better. Texas deserves better.



Join the League of Women Voters of Texas in demanding a fair, transparent redistricting process that serves all Texans, not just political insiders!



📣 Make your voice heard! Make it count.

____

They paired with groups like MoveOn, Common Cause etc etc....
Of course the Texas legislature ignored them.






https://www.lwvtexas.org/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=979482&item_id=122348gsc.tab=0

[Hornedfrog2000]

14. I would wonder what is in someones closet

Pushing back on this.

[boston bean]

15. The redistricting is to MAKE IT FAIR, dumb asses!

[Give Peace A Chance]

17. I got the flyer today

We are voting YES on redistricting.
LaMalfa must go!

[newdeal2]

18. I guess we will see what their relevance is

I get the “principled” stance but these are not normal times and we must adapt to today’s challenges.

We absolutely must take back the House, maybe the Senate, if we want any chance at beating Trump.

[haele]

19. I met a few California League of Women's Voters members...

When I was invited to a Women's Empowerment afternoon tea with my stepdaughter's GMI - as I was a professional woman who worked for the government.
Me in a room full of boutique shop businesswomen, financial advisors, and Realtors...

She, having grown up in La Jolla, (yes, ma'am, I live in San Diego, also ..) was trying to size out my daughter's background and social acceptability prospects, hoping her grandson was going to have better luck catching a properly raised man-baby caretaker than her son did with his choice.

Did I mention they were all die-hard Mega-Church Republicans?

[StarryNite]

20. Did somebody get to them?

[Ocelot II]

53. No.

https://lwvc.org/mailer/

[StarryNite]

56. Thank you.

I'm really glad to hear this.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

64. They aren't associated with the mailer...

...but their own website says they oppose the mid-cycle redistricting.

https://lwvc.org/opposition-mid-cycle-redistricting/

[B.See]

21. Whenever any political organization

betrays the TRUST via willful ignorance, indifference, or misguided, ill-advised temerity,

then it's time to KICK THEM TO THE CURB, and forever discount them as anything of legitimacy.

(in short: fuck them)

[ancianita]

26. Amen! I don't know what's gotten into them, but they seriously need to learn from women voters

what's in women's best interests.

[maxrandb]

22. Have they shown up to fucking protest at the Texas state Capitol?

No?

Didn't think so.

Apparently, some Germans tried to be "bipartisan" with the nazis. How'd that work out?

[LeftInTX]

48. Yes, they have. Do you live in Texas???

[beaglelover]

23. My husband and I will be voting YES!

[xuplate]

24. As in turn the other cheek?

Nope.

[Mike Nelson]

27. I got the mailer...

... but I will be voting YES. I do wish I could vote no, but I can no longer support the independent commissions.

[Iggo]

31. I wish I didn't HAVE TO vote Yes.

But I do.

[Iris]

28. Why are they making any statement about this at all?

[Ocelot II]

54. They didn't. The mailer is fake wrt LWV.

https://lwvc.org/mailer/

[Iris]

58. Wow! Thanks!

[FBaggins]

60. Because they were some of the original backers of the commission

They pushed hard to remove redistricting from the legislature.

Common Cause was also a key supporter. They seem to be having more trouble deciding how to respond to recent events.

[Iggo]

29. Fairness? In the middle of a crisis? THIS crisis?

Nah, dawg.

[markodochartaigh]

32. A number of nonpartisan organizations

have been infiltrated by Republicans. They keep the bipartisan, or nonpartisan, label but become Republican machines. Sort of like insects being parasitized.

[Bev54]

33. They don't have to be partisan to support democracy, if they don't approve this there won't be

a chance at getting democracy back. Time for a competing women's group!

[NoMoreRepugs]

36. Just donated to Newsom redistricting effort - WTF League of Women Voters - WTF???

[RiverStone]

38. Totally agree with OP. Can folks withdraw their...

...membership in TLOWV?

Perhaps this is just one person's opinion, tho if there's a board of directors that approved of this BS, members should withdraw their support.

[bromeando]

39. LWV

No more donations from me.

[Haggis 4 Breakfast]

40. The League of Women Voters lost ALL credibility long ago.

When they became just another megaphone for maga.

[chowder66]

41. Their full statement is an insult to the intelligence of California voters.

I get the "principle" but principles won't matter if we are being crushed by an administration that has no real oversight from the Republicans.

[barbtries]

42. sorry to hear that.

i wasn't aware that the League of Women Voters had become an organization of magats.

[AllaN01Bear]

43. im voting yes.

[Warpy]

44. IOW, the MAGAts pitched a snot slinging fit when they met

There is no "fairness" to any of this. Abbott and his courtiers are f;at out cheating and these nervous ladies are apparently blind to that fact. The only way to counter a cheater or anyone who wants something at your expense is to let him know that you know what's going on as you tilt things the other way so that his efforts are wasted. Then you let him know he can be hurt, too. That last part usually takes care of him. That's how it's worked for me, anyway.

Perhaps maundering about fairness has its place in normal times, but these times are not normal. Until they are, the LWV has just declared itself irrelevant and I find that very sad.

[EndlessWire]

50. Fairness? FAIRNESS??

I thought that Texas was redistricting when they weren't supposed to? And then, when Texas Dems vamoosed out of state, they tried to ARREST them? And then, when they returned, they put them basically on house arrest, totally illegal?

We're in this fight to win it. Repubs just lost in Court. We're going to vote YES, and we're going to win! And, all Abbott gets for his trouble is a lawsuit!

We're in a cold war. We have to vote for a pathway back to sane government. Fascists can go to hell!

Just put the flyer in your bathroom for a discretionary emergency. And, that was another waste of money. Nonpartisan, my ass.

[Ocelot II]

51. The statement in the mailer that the LWV is part of the opposition coalition is false.

and the LWV has disavowed it. https://democraticunderground.com/100220578272
https://lwvc.org/mailer/

[lostincalifornia]

55. That is weird because an editorial in the Sacramento Bee identified the LWV, plus when I got the flyer this

morning I went to the LWV website and they had a splash screen saying to vote no against the redistricting.

and who is this Gloria Chun Hoo?

"Don’t upend fairness: Say no to mid-cycle redistricting in California | Opinion By Gloria Chun Hoo Special to The Sacramento Bee"

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article311506653.html#storylink=cpy

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article311506653.html

Either someone hacked their website, and falsely falsely presented themselves as the president of the LWV, or some real weird dirty trick.

They need to do more than just put a screen up saying they weren't behind it, they need to sue someone's ass, and go to the media and get it reported.

[llamahunter]

62. LWVC is not being entirely truthful

They may not be part of this _one_ particular mailer campaign, but they ARE on board with the GOP effort to prevent a California response to the Texas power grab. They seem content to let the Republicans game the system to retain control of congress in 2026 despite the will of the voters.

https://lwvc.org/opposition-mid-cycle-redistricting/

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article311506653.html

They need to get their priorities straight.

[SSJVegeta]

57. Voting yes IS voting for Fairness

[hildegaard28]

59. Does anybody

Vote based on what some organization says(other than Evangelical morons)? I can’t imagine anyone would do that if they aren’t completely brainwashed by that organization.

[red dog 1]

63. Gloria Chun Hoo's on First

WTF is on second.

The CA Redistricting Bill will be voted on this November, and it's a "partisan issue."

Since The League of Women Voters is a non-partisan organization, WTF is Hoo doing commenting on a partisan issue?