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DemocratSinceBirth

(102,012 posts)
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:54 AM Aug 2025

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster."

Last edited Sat Aug 23, 2025, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)

" I have become what I have beheld and am convinced I have done right." - A paradox.

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"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster." (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2025 OP
" Don't step where the Bull Shits." mackdaddy Aug 2025 #1
"There ain't no Coup de Ville lying at the bottom of a Cracker Jack box" Jersey Devil Aug 2025 #2
Jim Steinman edhopper Aug 2025 #10
Apologies to Steinman Jersey Devil Aug 2025 #13
He said this shortly before he got Covid and died edhopper Aug 2025 #15
So, without complaint, we just willingly let the monsters destroy us? niyad Aug 2025 #3
That's not what Elliott Ness did. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2025 #4
Tried that edhopper Aug 2025 #11
Ness would have dropped him off a building like he did in the movie. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2025 #12
Someone has to battle the monsters. chia Aug 2025 #5
The Paradox of Tolerance. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2025 #6
Then why post that quote, since that is exactly what it says? niyad Aug 2025 #8
Because I posted its antidote directly under it. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2025 #9
Not someone, but, everyone. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #14
... Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #7
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #16

Jersey Devil

(10,859 posts)
13. Apologies to Steinman
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 11:51 AM
Aug 2025

I knew that but figured anyone else wouldn't get it unless I tied it to Meatloaf. Didn't know he was a Trumper or anti-vax though. Kind of gives me a sad.

edhopper

(37,524 posts)
15. He said this shortly before he got Covid and died
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 03:20 PM
Aug 2025

"We're being controlled by everybody", he replied: "Yeah, I know. But not me. If I die, I die, but I'm not going to be controlled."

MAGAT idiot.

edhopper

(37,524 posts)
11. Tried that
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:37 AM
Aug 2025

He was going to trial for Fraud, Nat Security Violations and inciting insurrection. It failed.
How would you suggest we fight these monsters?

DemocratSinceBirth

(102,012 posts)
6. The Paradox of Tolerance.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:24 AM
Aug 2025

Reminds me of the quote from Jesus Christ who said, " I send you out as sheep among wolves, be wise as serpents and harmless as doves." Very few moral codes prescribe that you can't defend yourself. I also don't think Nietzsche meant to suggest to just let people abuse you.

DemocratSinceBirth

(102,012 posts)
9. Because I posted its antidote directly under it.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:31 AM
Aug 2025

And there's more to Nietzsche's philosophy than the quote.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
16. Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 03:31 PM
Aug 2025
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

Friedrich Nietzsche


No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people. Albert Camus

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