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bigtree

(94,672 posts)
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 11:12 AM Aug 2025

Vance betrays WH involvement in Bolton raid, despite denials, by describing what 'we' are doing in the investigation

...I may be wrong, but I don't think I've ever seen a WH personalize their description of an ongoing investigation this way.

Normally they would be consistently deferential to what the Justice Dept. is doing, repeatedly referring questions back to the DOJ, instead of making assertions like Vance is here about a case.

"We’re in the very early stages of an ongoing investigation into John Bolton. I will say we’re going to let that investigation proceed," Vance told NBC News' "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker in an exclusive interview.

"We are investigating Amb. Bolton, but if they ultimately bring a case, it will be because they determine that he has broken the law," he added. "We’re going to be careful about that. We’re going to be deliberate about that, because we don’t think that we should throw people — even if they disagree with us politically, maybe especially if they disagree with us politically — you shouldn’t throw people willy-nilly in prison. You should let the law drive these determinations, and that’s what we’re doing."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/vance-denies-the-fbi-is-investigating-john-bolton-because-he-s-a-trump-critic/ar-AA1L2DSy


..how weird for Vance to rhetorically take ownership of the Bolton investigation, presumably on the president's behalf, just as questions are being raised about political retribution directed at Bolton by a WH whose president called the target a 'lowlife' at the same time he was claiming to know nothing about the investigation.

'We' is not making a convincing case of that.
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Vance betrays WH involvement in Bolton raid, despite denials, by describing what 'we' are doing in the investigation (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2025 OP
VP Vance has so little to do that he's trying to look and sound more important than he is. patphil Aug 2025 #1
Vance has taken ownership of this investigation bigtree Aug 2025 #2
Shameless fascists malaise Aug 2025 #3

patphil

(9,230 posts)
1. VP Vance has so little to do that he's trying to look and sound more important than he is.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 11:33 AM
Aug 2025

Trump's base won't even notice what he said, but the intelligence community hears him loud and clear.
I'm sure there are people in the intelligence community who are quietly planning for payback.
Not so much for Bolton personally, but for the whole take down of our intelligence apparatus across the government.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
2. Vance has taken ownership of this investigation
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 08:09 PM
Aug 2025

...after his boss claimed they weren't involved.


Rachel Bitecofer @RachelBitecofer
Watergate was bad, esp until they pushed out even bigger criminal Spiro Agnew, but what we’re seeing now is the complete collapse of federal rule of law.

Both JD and Trump use “we” every time they comment on DOJ.

We


...why did this thread sink? Hope folks don't go to sleep on this point.

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