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tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 10:58 AM Aug 2025

That bandaged hand could be evidence of Alzheimer's



The bandage looks like it's in the same place that IV drugs are administered. One IV session wouldn't do that. It would have to be many. But what sort of treatment would require a lot of IV infusions?

There's one possibility. Two of the most recently developed dementia treatments, lecanemab (Leqembi) and donanemab (Kisunla) require regular intravenous infusions. Both target the beta-amyloid proteins associated with Alzheimer's.

Considering his family history and that he seems to be exhibiting symptoms, it's very possible.
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That bandaged hand could be evidence of Alzheimer's (Original Post) tinrobot Aug 2025 OP
So would EDTA drip for clearing arteries bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #1
Or both JCMach1 Aug 2025 #27
... Rare but serious complications of chelation therapy for heart disease include: struggle4progress Aug 2025 #33
Chelation therapy is ONLY used for heavy metal poisoning. Mosby Aug 2025 #46
Chelation therapy is also used for atherosclerosis bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #51
AI Mosby Aug 2025 #57
And for supplying future members of Blue Man Group. LastDemocratInSC Aug 2025 #65
The pharmacist said he fills prescriptions for Alzheimer's. Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #2
including access to the nuclear codes vapor2 Aug 2025 #5
Yes NJCher Aug 2025 #13
Link, please.. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #40
Only if stated who. And something like that needs to disclosed. Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #41
I'm asking specifically for a link that a pharmacist said he was filling prescriptions for Alzheimers drugs Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #43
French cuffs and diamond cufflinks C_U_L8R Aug 2025 #3
Are those infusions daily? Ilsa Aug 2025 #4
Nope. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #11
Thank you so much. That's a great summary. nt Ilsa Aug 2025 #20
Could be AI or photo shopped too. Can't belive anything. Srkdqltr Aug 2025 #6
Here's a link to the AFP photo blogslug Aug 2025 #47
No bandage looks that rough. Srkdqltr Aug 2025 #7
Yeah, that patch looks like spackle! dhol82 Aug 2025 #60
What prevents a reporter asking him about it? Sneederbunk Aug 2025 #8
They asked before and the White House Johonny Aug 2025 #52
Frequent handshaking, eh? 3catwoman3 Aug 2025 #64
First - it's not a bandage. It's a makeup blob. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #9
Looks like Bondo, the stuff auto body shops use. sop Aug 2025 #14
I get monthly infusions Melon Aug 2025 #21
Rotate being the key. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #38
I agree. Melon Aug 2025 #48
My daughter had that experience . . . Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #49
If you look closely the "blob" is covered with a thin clear film. pandr32 Aug 2025 #23
Dip needs a bigger drip. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #10
All these armchair doctors KentuckyWoman Aug 2025 #12
Yes the anecdotal testimonials are exhausting to read. BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #17
I find them invigorating! Especially that Alzheimer's angle, hadn't heard of that one heh Blues Heron Aug 2025 #53
Most people can see clearly that Trump is mentally ill and has dementia. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #28
That's fair. KentuckyWoman Aug 2025 #34
I guess I should be thankful NJCher Aug 2025 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #18
I'm agreeing with you. Polly Hennessey Aug 2025 #29
mab infusions monoclonal antibodies. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #42
thanks NJCher Aug 2025 #50
I'm pretty good at ignoring them - Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #61
He disappears every so many days. Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #16
From backhanding Traildogbob Aug 2025 #19
Could be the back of his hand was kissed too enthusiastically by grovelling sycophants. sop Aug 2025 #22
Good one! Traildogbob Aug 2025 #31
Rubio did even worse NJCher Aug 2025 #35
For real???? Traildogbob Aug 2025 #39
My mother had kidney failure and was on regular dialysis had many of these symptoms. mackdaddy Aug 2025 #24
Speakng as someone who has received weekly infusions for 19 years misanthrope Aug 2025 #25
could it be NJCher Aug 2025 #37
They also have very serious snowybirdie Aug 2025 #26
Even if he has Alzheimer's, he can stick around for a long time. His father was allegorical oracle Aug 2025 #30
It's makeup, not a bandage. generalbetrayus Aug 2025 #32
Unwell in so many ways. Mostly, from the neck up. Sneederbunk Aug 2025 #36
6 to 8 Months? Rhiagel Aug 2025 #44
IV diuretics? Another good theory. tinrobot Aug 2025 #45
If his veins are clogged and collapsing, UpInArms Aug 2025 #54
His dementia is obvious. He's nutty as a fruitcake BTW. rickyhall Aug 2025 #55
Unlikely iemanja Aug 2025 #56
He's low IQ to start with underpants Aug 2025 #58
Come sweet death.... Blue Owl Aug 2025 #59
Half the shit that comes out of his face hole is evidence of Alzheimer's. Iggo Aug 2025 #62
Here's hoping for serious side effects CanonRay Aug 2025 #63

struggle4progress

(126,153 posts)
33. ... Rare but serious complications of chelation therapy for heart disease include:
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 02:08 PM
Aug 2025

Low blood-calcium levels.
Sudden drop in blood pressure.
Heart failure.
Kidney damage.
Death ...

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/expert-answers/chelation-therapy/faq-20157449

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
57. AI
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 09:22 PM
Aug 2025
Chelation therapy is an unproven and potentially dangerous alternative treatment for atherosclerosis that involves infusing EDTA, a substance that binds to and removes heavy metals from the body. While there is some theoretical rationale for its use in heart disease due to plaque calcium content, large studies like the TACT trial found that it was beneficial only in a specific subgroup of patients with diabetes after a heart attack. Due to safety risks, significant cost, and the lack of strong evidence for its effectiveness, chelation therapy is not a recommended treatment for atherosclerosis by mainstream medical institutions.




Blue Full Moon

(3,484 posts)
2. The pharmacist said he fills prescriptions for Alzheimer's.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 11:06 AM
Aug 2025

Any president, senator or representative that is diagnosed with Alzheimer's or other brain degenerate disease needs to be removed pronto. They make decisions that effect peoples lives and livelihoods.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
13. Yes
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 11:52 AM
Aug 2025

It’s bad enough that these older people are taking up space where a younger person needs to be, let alone keeping them in the job with pharmaceutical.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
40. Link, please..
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 03:29 PM
Aug 2025

I have not heard any such thing, a search turns up nothing, and it would be a serious violation of HIPAA if his pharmacist actually disclosed that information.

Blue Full Moon

(3,484 posts)
41. Only if stated who. And something like that needs to disclosed.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 03:41 PM
Aug 2025

It was in a news article awhile back. People with cognitive degeneration have no business making life and death decisions, period.
Several articles easy to google.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/old-school-pharmacy-hand-delivers-drugs-congress-little-known-perk-powerful

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
43. I'm asking specifically for a link that a pharmacist said he was filling prescriptions for Alzheimers drugs
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 03:47 PM
Aug 2025

for the president.

That is extremely specific and would violate HIPAA.

Needing to be disclosed does grant a medical provider the right to disclose the information.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
4. Are those infusions daily?
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 11:11 AM
Aug 2025

So even an infusion using a butterfly is leaving him bruised? Given his venous perfusion diagnosis, I imagine the needle gauge is 23 or higher for a gentler, easier "stick".

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I think he's alot sicker than they are letting on.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
11. Nope.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 11:35 AM
Aug 2025

Once a month for one, and twice a month for the first 18 months for the other.

- mab infusions didn't generally depend on how sick you are. Each drug has its own starting frequency. Generally they are in n the range of 4-8 weeks. Some can be bumped up, depending on how your body reacts - one my daughter was on started at every 8 weeks, but as her body started to resist it's effects her frequency was decreased to every 4 weeks, and then she was switched to another one.

And they are generally given in a vein in the arm, unless you are hospitalized and you already have an IV they can use.

blogslug

(39,167 posts)
47. Here's a link to the AFP photo
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 04:41 PM
Aug 2025
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/president-donald-trumps-hand-is-seen-as-he-speaks-at-the-news-photo/2230615771

US-POLITICS-TRUMP
US President Donald Trump's hand is seen as he speaks at "The People's House," a White House immersive experience across the street from the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, during a tour on August 22, 2025, in Washington, DC. US President Donald Trump on Friday said he would fire Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cook if she did not resign, after he excoriated her over claims of mortgage fraud. (Photo by ANDREW CABALLERO-REYNOLDS / AFP) (Photo by ANDREW CABALLERO-REYNOLDS/AFP via Getty Images)

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
52. They asked before and the White House
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 09:10 PM
Aug 2025

Claims it is from frequent hand shaking. The media never follows up on Trump's obvious lies. It's sad. But here we are. Trump will be dead two weeks before the American media starts to wonder why he doesn't talk or move anymore.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
9. First - it's not a bandage. It's a makeup blob.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 11:27 AM
Aug 2025

Second, my daughter gets regular -mab infusions. Several different ones over the years. The most frequent was every 3 weeks. Leqembi, initially, is every 2 weeks. Each infusion site heals completely, well before the next one, even at 2 weeks. And if it didn't for some reason, no responsible infusion center or phlebotomist would insert the IV at the same, still injured, site unless no other veins were available.

Third, infusions are generally given in a vein in the arm.

Melon

(1,525 posts)
21. I get monthly infusions
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 12:56 PM
Aug 2025

Sometimes arms, sometimes hands. It’s whatever looks good and you need to rotate.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
38. Rotate being the key.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 02:59 PM
Aug 2025

I'm betting that even with infusions every month, your hand bears no resemblance to Trump's (at least not because of repeated infusions in a single site, which the OP suggested was the cause).

My daughter has infusions multiple times a month (-mab infusions, as well as iron, occasionally blood, and potassium) for 5-10 years, at least 4 different infusion operations. The only time they have used her hand was when she was already in the hospital and that happened to be the location of the existing IV)

Melon

(1,525 posts)
48. I agree.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 07:00 PM
Aug 2025

They use my hands sometimes. I let them hit whatever looks best. I don’t want to get stuck 4 times by a nurse missing the vein.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
49. My daughter had that experience . . .
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 07:25 PM
Aug 2025

She's an extremely easy stick, but every once in a while she gets a stinker.

After missing twice, the home infusion worker called to get permission to stick a third time . . . and missed. My daughter refused to even let her think about a 4th time. So they had to send a specialist out the next day since they had already mixed the infusion and it had a 24-hour shelf-life.

The specialist got her easily on the first try (as nearly everyone does since she was 4 years old).

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
23. If you look closely the "blob" is covered with a thin clear film.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:02 PM
Aug 2025

The film holds it in place. You can see the edges of the blob spreading under the sticky seal of the clear film.
Weird!
The blob appears to be a combo of makeup and ointment. He needs the medicated ointment, but is trying to make the underlying injury/bruise less obvious so a makeup is added and the whole mess is a flattened blob sealed under a surgical film.

KentuckyWoman

(7,401 posts)
12. All these armchair doctors
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 11:51 AM
Aug 2025

Look, he's 80. There are multiple different meds for various medical issues that can cause a geezer to bruise. It in no way affects someone's ability to govern. I can tell you as an old lady on Eliquis that I try to cover bruises too. I'm not vain but we all want a little dignity. Not that HE deserves any.

Could be the dude bumped his hand and had a bruise. Could be he had bloodwork and they had to go for the hand and boom, bruise. Could be he saw Gavin Newsom's last post and the ketchup jar he threw bounced off the wall and he smacked it away before it beaned him.

Yeah, I get it, they raked Biden for old guy stuff and now all this. Tit for tat. There are so many reasons to put his ass out of office and in jail that have nothing to do with his medical profile.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
28. Most people can see clearly that Trump is mentally ill and has dementia.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:42 PM
Aug 2025

We can also clearly see that your post is well written, lucid, and coherent.

Trump is not capable of writing such a post on his best day.

So comparing yourself to Trump is not a good argument.

Trump is seriously ill and speculation about his illness is not only appropriate
but necessary. He has the power of life and death over the entire planet.

KentuckyWoman

(7,401 posts)
34. That's fair.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 02:14 PM
Aug 2025

He never did have a firm grasp on reality and was always an evil blithering idiot. I hear you though. The real question is his mental, intellectual state. Yes, he's clearly getting worse over time. Not sure that makes a bit of difference. The GOP will support him even if he waddles through the National Mall wearing nothing but his red hat and cowboy boots.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
15. I guess I should be thankful
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 12:00 PM
Aug 2025

I barely understand anything on this thread.

Mab infusions??

Eliquis?

Butterflies?

Response to NJCher (Reply #15)

Polly Hennessey

(8,833 posts)
29. I'm agreeing with you.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:58 PM
Aug 2025

The bottom line is that with all of his makeup, IVs, Mab infusions, Alzheimers, etc., he is still with us. This jerk is running our country.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
42. mab infusions monoclonal antibodies.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 03:44 PM
Aug 2025

You've hear of them, but may not have made the connection. They are often advertised directly to consumers because they cost thousands of dollars per treatment, so if drug companies can drum up business doctors are more likely to take up the fight with the insurance companies. Any medication with the generic name ending in mab is a monoclonal antibody. (Some common ones infliximab (Remicade), adalimumab (Humira), pembrolizumab (Keytruda), trastuzumab (Herceptin). They were initially used for autoimmune disorders (Crohns and Ulcerative Colitis are the two most common ads I've seen), but their use has been expanded to include cancer and now alzheimers (and I'm sure more that I don't know about.

They are very effective, and new ones are being discovered every day - and one advantage is that you only need to be treated once a month (or so), instead of taking daily pills.

We don't have a functional TV in our house, since the analog to digital confusion. But somewhere I've seen enough TV to have been exposed frequently to ads for Eliquis. (It's a blood thinner.)

Butterfly - look at the image connected with that term. You should be able to see where the butterfly needle gets its name (the two wings).

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
50. thanks
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 09:04 PM
Aug 2025

that sorta' explains it for me. . Because I'm a former commercial writer/producer, I mute all commercials.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
61. I'm pretty good at ignoring them -
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 09:51 PM
Aug 2025

My spouse always makes snide comments when we are occasionally in a place with commercial showing (hotel, doctor's office, etc.) - and my response is always, "What are you talking about?" since I've tuned out the commercial.

But somehow, the ones connected to my daughter's disease sneak into my consciousness - even though we haven't had TV in the house since the analog to digital conversion.

Blue Full Moon

(3,484 posts)
16. He disappears every so many days.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 12:18 PM
Aug 2025

Dialysis? He looks like congestive heart failure and kidneys along with Alzheimer's type decline. We should start a dead pool to go along with Orrex's is he dead yet. My guess by the end of September.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
19. From backhanding
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 12:26 PM
Aug 2025

His cabinet cultists, they let you do that when you are famous, and spineless.
Some stand in line for a snack to please him. Rubio??

sop

(18,621 posts)
22. Could be the back of his hand was kissed too enthusiastically by grovelling sycophants.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 12:57 PM
Aug 2025

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
35. Rubio did even worse
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 02:16 PM
Aug 2025

He pretended to trip on the airplane stairs after trump tripped. He did that to make it look like the stairs were deficient, not the climber.

Nauseating, the level to which this scum will sink.

mackdaddy

(1,976 posts)
24. My mother had kidney failure and was on regular dialysis had many of these symptoms.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:15 PM
Aug 2025

She was a heavy diet soda drinker and the artificial sweeteners were one of the possible culprits of a benign tumor on one of her kidneys.

The swelling ankles and bruising from the dialysis treatments are much the same. And this all goes along with heart and circulatory disease and the decline in mental acuity. And all of these things can be exacerbated from damage done by having COVID-19 and 'long covid'.

But who I pray for is Joe Biden. I pray that he can keep a straight face when he pays his respects as Trump is lying in state...

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
25. Speakng as someone who has received weekly infusions for 19 years
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:21 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:22 PM - Edit history (1)

I find it odd they would use the back of his hand. It is easier for my nurses to use the larger veins further up my arm. The back of the hand has only been mentioned as a last resort but we've never gotten to that point, even on days when I've had to be stuck three or four times.

What makes it even more curious as an IV injection site is that Trump is a strongman-type authoritarian. Much of his effectiveness depends on an image of virility and health. So then why wouldn't he opt for an injection site further up his arm where his standard long sleeves would hide it?

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
37. could it be
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 02:20 PM
Aug 2025

they've used the sites up his arm?

If that were the case, he's really in trouble. Getting shot up every which way from Sunday, as my mother would say.

It's very telling that his staff has him immersed in decor type projects, like pasting up gold crap all over his office. Also paving over the Rose Garden and making the whole damn place look cheap, like he did with Mar-a-large-O. They are doing that to keep him occupied.

snowybirdie

(6,687 posts)
26. They also have very serious
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:33 PM
Aug 2025

side effects. Can cause brain bleed in patients. A serious cause of strokes in older people. MRIs needed monthly to determine this. Also they are about 25/35% effective rates. Not a great outcome. They really are only the first step in Alzheimer's treatment.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
30. Even if he has Alzheimer's, he can stick around for a long time. His father was
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 02:00 PM
Aug 2025

(according to Wikipedia) diagnosed in October 1991 with "mild senile dementia." A few months later, a different physician reported that Fred Trump "did not know his birth year or age. Donald claimed that he first noticed his father's symptoms of Alzheimer's in the mid-1990s. Fred died at age 93 in June 1999.

generalbetrayus

(1,860 posts)
32. It's makeup, not a bandage.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 02:06 PM
Aug 2025

From the linked article: After the president’s physical in April, White House physician, Captain Sean Barbabella, declared him in “excellent cognitive and physical health.”
He added that Trump’s hand bruises could be from the aspirin he takes to prevent cardiovascular disease.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-hand-makeup-returned-questions-165815926.html

Not that I would ever believe Orange Julius Caesar's doctor for a minute, I recently started suffering major bruising on my hands and arms. My doctor suggested I stop taking fish oil because it acts as a blood thinner, as does aspirin. Since I stopped taking fish oil, my bruising has pretty much stopped and disappeared.

underpants

(196,495 posts)
58. He's low IQ to start with
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 09:22 PM
Aug 2025

It’s not racist because it’s about him.
When he says it, it’s racist.

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