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douglas9

(5,814 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:41 AM Aug 2025

Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine 'Within Months'

The Trump administration will move to pull the COVID vaccine off the U.S. market “within months,” one of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s closest associates has told the Daily Beast.

Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a British cardiologist who has repeatedly claimed in the face of scientific consensus that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus, told the Daily Beast that Kennedy’s stance is shared by “influential” members of President Donald Trump’s family. Like Kennedy himself, no Trumps hold any scientific qualifications.

Malhotra is a leading adviser to the controversial lobby group Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) Action, which is seen as an external arm of Kennedy’s agenda as Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary.

He told the Beast that many of those closest to RFK Jr. have told him they “cannot understand” why the vaccine continues to be prescribed, and that a decision to remove the vaccine from the U.S. market pending further research will come “within months,” even if it is likely to cause “fear of chaos” and bring with it major legal ramifications.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-and-robert-f-kennedy-junior-to-ban-covid-19-vaccine-within-months/

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Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine 'Within Months' (Original Post) douglas9 Aug 2025 OP
Hey Junior, while you're at it . . . . no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #1
Or birth control pills. yourout Aug 2025 #5
Good point. They won't stop at the Morning-After Pill or Abortion Pills. no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #12
You can bet they won't touch Viagra. yourout Aug 2025 #30
You are absolutely correct. Vuagra is covered in some insurance plans, niyad Aug 2025 #87
The Comstock Act which was never repealed markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Aug 2025 #164
You think you are making a joke edhopper Aug 2025 #22
Yes, ban all medical care. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #25
Well, the "'medical field" might just have a few things to say about that. Texin Aug 2025 #90
If Trump The Murderer gets rid of the Covid vaccine and wont allow us to get vaccines .... Can we sue him ????? Trueblue1968 Aug 2025 #167
ha ha. Supreme Court backs the dictator every time. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #170
Oh, they don't want to do that. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #172
Oh God, don't give them any ideas n/t Grim Chieftain Aug 2025 #73
And, of course, ban the polio vaccine. dedl67 Aug 2025 #96
AND popsdenver Aug 2025 #138
One wasn't enough? HighFired49 Aug 2025 #142
I am guessing that the Republican Politicians, popsdenver Aug 2025 #153
SHHHHHHHHH! ShazzieB Aug 2025 #147
WTF RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 2025 #2
Are they saying that their wonderful operation works speed failed? Walleye Aug 2025 #3
I think they're trying to thin us out. Morbius Aug 2025 #4
That is the endgame. The Madcap Aug 2025 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2025 #112
You do your own research. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #114
Abracadabra JoseBalow Aug 2025 #115
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2025 #117
Guess they found out about the true meaning of "silence." Xavier Breath Aug 2025 #120
You're back!🤦‍♀️😡 sheshe2 Aug 2025 #118
Like moths to a flame JoseBalow Aug 2025 #122
Oh, yes. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #123
What did I miss? The Madcap Aug 2025 #141
It was just a nasty returnee. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #143
I must have struck a nerve. The Madcap Aug 2025 #144
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2025 #179
Back for a minute and then Cha Aug 2025 #146
Good job, my dear. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #151
Whatever color it's boring to see Cha Aug 2025 #160
We are suckers, losers, and worthless eaters. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #26
They Want Our Parking Spots MrWowWow Aug 2025 #47
Don Jr is the one in charge of prying video games from the hands of old dead people. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #48
It will disproportionately kill the elderly, who disproportionately vote Republican. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #35
Yep. I'm betting the vaccine will be available to a few privileged admirers. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #55
To thin out the non-white and sick population LiberalArkie Aug 2025 #69
To the 47 regime, every year a senior's life is shortened... pat_k Aug 2025 #131
Just told hubby yesterday that we better get usedtobedemgurl Aug 2025 #6
Same here.. I was waiting for an updated vacccine mountain grammy Aug 2025 #56
I was on the fence. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #134
Those deviants deserve to get a very severe case of COVID that requires hospitalization. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #7
Oh, they'll have the vaccines and the best medical care as well! RexLipton Aug 2025 #61
No... they deserve to die from illnesses that would otherwise be prevented or cured. Moostache Aug 2025 #77
But RFK Jr isn't against vaccines Norbert Aug 2025 #8
Note to self: get a booster before the end of September. Vinca Aug 2025 #10
ICE likes to mask up but not for pandemic IronLionZion Aug 2025 #113
And then they'll ban masks in public, too mainer Aug 2025 #11
There'll be an exception for ICE surfered Aug 2025 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Gimpyknee Aug 2025 #43
Why is COVID vaccines being prescribed? bmichaelh Aug 2025 #13
"embarrassment" is way too kind UTUSN Aug 2025 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2025 #34
Colley had originally been admitted to hospital with an injured arm after a fall, but quickly contracted Covid. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #40
They really are Nazis. Blues Heron Aug 2025 #14
Well, not quite DFW Aug 2025 #163
Is there such a thing as herd fury? yorkster Aug 2025 #15
There's gotta be a massive angry torch-breaking mob building up LymphocyteLover Aug 2025 #125
Die faster, useless eaters. FalloutShelter Aug 2025 #16
🏆 underpants Aug 2025 #45
Plan on getting COVID vaccine in September bmichaelh Aug 2025 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2025 #110
Didn't your guy "nationalize" a chip company like a Communist? BumRushDaShow Aug 2025 #111
Trump and RFK Jr. love to kill Americans. dalton99a Aug 2025 #18
Murderers. spanone Aug 2025 #20
A severe case of Covid... Escape Aug 2025 #23
oh, I'm sure he'll be getting all the vaccines we can't get. Native Aug 2025 #24
Of course. LisaL Aug 2025 #27
Exactly Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #36
This orangecrush Aug 2025 #62
Yep, because our lives are worthless to him. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2025 #83
Trump *was* almost killed by Covid the first time around. keep_left Aug 2025 #92
Idiot anti-vaxxers leading the nation Torchlight Aug 2025 #28
TRUMP REALLY HATES AMERICA Jimvanhise Aug 2025 #29
Yep. If the U.S. were successfully invaded and the government taken over by foreign occupiers, tanyev Aug 2025 #32
If the US had been invaded by a foreign power, the government taken over, markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #42
Ah, Will and Ariel; I have the the set of The Story of Civilization. harumph Aug 2025 #102
+1 area51 Aug 2025 #66
Over the border to Canada I'll go mainer Aug 2025 #31
maybe I could make a day trip to Tijuana for this DBoon Aug 2025 #68
When you come back they'll ask at the border if you got the vaccine. hunter Aug 2025 #85
Sherbrooke Quebec... yorkster Aug 2025 #130
Windsor, Ontario would be our nearest entry point. ShazzieB Aug 2025 #148
I wonder if evemac Aug 2025 #33
Yeah, Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #38
But not before they get their own shots first nt Javaman Aug 2025 #39
I remember when the covid vaccination first came out. markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #140
Distraction mac56 Aug 2025 #41
Banned? Nah...they're will be plenty on hand for the Fuhrer and the richest of the rich Bengus81 Aug 2025 #44
I have several friends who have gotten COVID in the past 6 weeks Bluetus Aug 2025 #46
Why stop at covid? LisaL Aug 2025 #49
Any and all vaccines could be next. mwmisses4289 Aug 2025 #58
Not could orangecrush Aug 2025 #64
Could be. Kennedy seems to be on the warpath against MRNA vaccines Bluetus Aug 2025 #98
Well, what could possibly go wrong? Wednesdays Aug 2025 #50
So much for Trumps Operation Warp Speed boasts. chowder66 Aug 2025 #51
Trump even had to stop his boasting about "Operation Warp Speed"... keep_left Aug 2025 #95
Still, maybe he can be played caraher Aug 2025 #105
It's so weird. ShazzieB Aug 2025 #150
This is unconscionable. What's next, banning flu and pneumonia vaccines? Incanus Aug 2025 #52
RFK Jr. wants to kill people LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #53
Oh, it's on... GiqueCee Aug 2025 #54
The latest vaccine is supposed to come out mid September. Emile Aug 2025 #57
An actual BAN really throws that into question. After their defunding of mrNA vaccines, we obviously Karasu Aug 2025 #137
Evil Bastards samplegirl Aug 2025 #59
Doctor My Eyes MrWowWow Aug 2025 #60
You don't have to worry about an economic collapse Turbineguy Aug 2025 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Aug 2025 #65
Did this miserable son of a bitch not tell congress that he would not interfere with immunizations?? Peacetrain Aug 2025 #67
Welcome to our world, guys!! A world where politicians w/o medical experience make medical decisions for you. CrispyQ Aug 2025 #70
Rumor has it news. Liberal In Texas Aug 2025 #71
Another click-bait headline Random Boomer Aug 2025 #93
KnR Hekate Aug 2025 #72
Novavax, non-mRNA vaccine will still be available. Nevilledog Aug 2025 #74
Excess deaths in the US SpankMe Aug 2025 #75
well markie Aug 2025 #82
Agree I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2025 #177
Epstein Epstein Epstein Six117 Aug 2025 #76
Ooh the "Trump Vaccine" is bad? IbogaProject Aug 2025 #78
Who is Aseem Malhotra? progressoid Aug 2025 #79
Why can these stubborn people not see how safe this vaccine is? travelingthrulife Aug 2025 #80
They live in a post-factual reality, and are dragging the rest of us into it with them. Karasu Aug 2025 #149
Why can these idiots just not take it. travelingthrulife Aug 2025 #81
Because they've been brainwashed by Rupert Murdoch. Initech Aug 2025 #99
These influencer have products to sell Johonny Aug 2025 #159
I guess I'll need to bake in a trip to Canada to get shots in the future... NCDem47 Aug 2025 #84
That vaccine saved my life. I got a wicked case of COVID but it didn't kill me thanks to the vaccination. Botany Aug 2025 #86
Which means my husband and I . . . peggysue2 Aug 2025 #88
Part of the fascist take over of America. Such as Republican Governors sending National Guard Troops .. Botany Aug 2025 #91
The predator, RFK Jr and the murderer, Trump. Passages Aug 2025 #89
What a bunch of fucking assholes. Initech Aug 2025 #94
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #181
Time for action LPBBEAR Aug 2025 #97
Given that the death rate from covid is currently one tenth of 1%, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2025 #100
This isn't just about COVID. This regime has defunded production of all mRNA vaccines and would Karasu Aug 2025 #139
The fear of Covid and other infectious diseases will keep people from protesting in the streets against Thai fascist kimbutgar Aug 2025 #101
RFK Jr to be arrested for criminally negligent homicide a few months after that. cab67 Aug 2025 #103
Doesn't tRump want to take credit for fast-tracking it? mzmolly Aug 2025 #104
I would think ... hope ... there are enough sane voices in Congress to stop this stupidity. ificandream Aug 2025 #106
Think again orangecrush Aug 2025 #161
If this happened, still Jake Tapper would be talking about Joe Biden. Doodley Aug 2025 #107
A couple of things... lonely bird Aug 2025 #108
I'm guessing a flat-earther appointed to the USGS soon Torchlight Aug 2025 #109
The Republican health plan is die quickly IronLionZion Aug 2025 #116
Scheduled my flu and pneumonia vaccines for this Friday Bookreadingliberal53 Aug 2025 #119
This POS and Mrs. Trophy were literally the first people in the US to receive the vaccine in late 2020 Bengus81 Aug 2025 #121
this is so fucking insane I can hardly keep from screaming LymphocyteLover Aug 2025 #124
Seems like they actually want to kill people. paulkienitz Aug 2025 #126
They actually do I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2025 #178
Who predicted this around here? Yeah...where is that one particular poster here who Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #127
He has a road kill fetish. Just when ya thought ya had heard it all. twodogsbarking Aug 2025 #128
Republican health care: die faster. nt TBF Aug 2025 #129
Frani Fio comments Be Leave On Aug 2025 #132
Paid subscription only. Paper Roses Aug 2025 #133
huh? Be Leave On Aug 2025 #136
Well, here's what happened when I clicked the link. ShazzieB Aug 2025 #156
I never want to hear Republicans say how they believe in personal freedom ever fucking again. Karasu Aug 2025 #135
Any sentient being... GiqueCee Aug 2025 #145
Truth I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2025 #180
I just saw my doctor last week for a check up and he advised me to get the updated Covid vaccine Rhiannon12866 Aug 2025 #152
Prediction . The billionaires and rat republicans will keep the vaccines for themselves ..... Bread and Circuses Aug 2025 #154
Try for something smashing headlinewise to hide applegrove Aug 2025 #155
Dont worry, they will all be vaccinated Johonny Aug 2025 #157
They won't ban them, they'll say insurances don't have to cover them Buckeyeblue Aug 2025 #158
That's what we assumed they would do last week when the guidance was being issued, but this goes Karasu Aug 2025 #162
These assholes want ANOTHER pandemic!!!! Montauk6 Aug 2025 #165
And this time there will be many more deaths. Dave Bowman Aug 2025 #168
I'll bet trump and his family will be secretly getting flu and COVID vaccines. So will the rich. C Moon Aug 2025 #166
What would Putin want? stollen Aug 2025 #169
Hospitals need to start buying up refrigerated semi trailers. Emile Aug 2025 #171
The UNITED states JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #173
Makes sense D_Master81 Aug 2025 #174
These Assholes want to limit COVID vaccinations to people over 65 or who have one of these conditions LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #175
Hope I can get the new shot I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2025 #176

no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
1. Hey Junior, while you're at it . . . .
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:51 AM
Aug 2025

Why not ban smallpox, tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis, rubella vaccines?

Are you going to proceed to ban pharmaceutical intervention for tuberculosis, flu, pneumonia, etc.? Hell, why not ban antibiotics while you're at it? Why stop at preventative medicine?

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
37. The Comstock Act which was never repealed
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:22 AM
Aug 2025

bans contraceptives.
"This section was amended by an Act of Congress on March 3, 1873.[3] The amendment made by section two of that Act criminalized any use of the U.S. Postal Service to send any of the following items:[106] obscenity, contraceptives, abortifacients, sex toys, personal letters with any sexual content or information, or any information regarding the above items.[107] The provisions of the Comstock Act, as currently revised, only pertain to obscene, crime-inciting, or abortion-related articles or mail matter."
From Wikipedia

Response to yourout (Reply #5)

Irish_Dem

(81,263 posts)
25. Yes, ban all medical care.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:59 AM
Aug 2025

Might as well do the job right and get rid of the entire medical field.

If you get sick, just say a prayer and light a candle.

Maybe there will be some witchdoctors practicing nearby.

Texin

(2,851 posts)
90. Well, the "'medical field" might just have a few things to say about that.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:41 AM
Aug 2025

While there are a lot of medical practitioners who went into medicine for humanitarian aspirations, a great many (and I'd argue probably the majority of them) did so to pursue specialties that can reap huge personal wealth, such as those practicing surgeries and other specialized practices. Professional medical providers and insurance corporations, as well as the pharmaceutical companies, are a huge swath of the lobbying industry in Washington. They will be exerting a lot of pressure on legislators to see that this doesn't happen - or else.

There's some kind of rationale on RFK's and dipshit's announcement that they'd be banning the Covid 19 vaccine "in months" and not days. I think they're trying to pander to the conspiracy idiots while slow rolling in the face high winds and huge swales of opposition.

Trueblue1968

(19,251 posts)
167. If Trump The Murderer gets rid of the Covid vaccine and wont allow us to get vaccines .... Can we sue him ?????
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 02:35 AM
Aug 2025

Irish_Dem

(81,263 posts)
170. ha ha. Supreme Court backs the dictator every time.
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 05:40 AM
Aug 2025

They want us to die too.
More bribe money available to them.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
172. Oh, they don't want to do that.
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 06:26 AM
Aug 2025

The rich still want their care, they just don't want the rest of us to have any.

After all, the anointed get preferential treatment and only they get healthcare.... mainly because only they can afford it.

Pricing healthcare out of range of most Americans will do it if we don't stop them.

All by design.

dedl67

(223 posts)
96. And, of course, ban the polio vaccine.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:20 PM
Aug 2025

I had polio before the vaccine came along. I have memories of being for weeks in bed in a huge room, jammed with beds with other kids strapped down in strait jackets. Hardly and room for the nurses to move among the beds, and a long line of iron lungs along the walls. Is that where we are heading? Damn these people to hell.

popsdenver

(2,303 posts)
138. AND
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 05:19 PM
Aug 2025

mix up a batch of Kool-Aid, like amother cult leader did.........

Trump's first time around, his actions/inactions killed an ADDITIONAL half million Americans.........

Maybe part of the new marching orders that Putin gave him in Alaska...............

Seriously, at some point the MAGAot voters and Republican Politicians have got to say.......enough is enough

HighFired49

(494 posts)
142. One wasn't enough?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 06:45 PM
Aug 2025

I guess that one epidemic wasn't enough for Dump. Sure sign of STUPID- inability to learn from experience. I'll bet that he'll get vaccinated.

popsdenver

(2,303 posts)
153. I am guessing that the Republican Politicians,
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:45 PM
Aug 2025

Trump's CABAL, and the 1%ers will figure out a covert way to get it from others countries for themselves?????

Then start checking American citizens for needle marks when coming back into the country..........

Morbius

(997 posts)
4. I think they're trying to thin us out.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:59 AM
Aug 2025

The majority of those who will die without the vaccine are the elderly, who can't be exploited too much anymore. I suspect - and I hope - public outrage will cause them to reconsider.

Every day, a new definition of evil comes from this administration.

The Madcap

(1,904 posts)
9. That is the endgame.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:07 AM
Aug 2025

Kill off anyone and everyone not willing or able to work extremely long shifts seven days a week for free.

Response to The Madcap (Reply #9)

Response to JoseBalow (Reply #115)

The Madcap

(1,904 posts)
141. What did I miss?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 06:34 PM
Aug 2025

I made a post, and then I see three "Post Removed" blurbs. Maybe it's a good thing I missed it.

Response to The Madcap (Reply #144)

Cha

(319,069 posts)
146. Back for a minute and then
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:04 PM
Aug 2025
Nuked into Space where it belongs.

No room for Treasonous Stupid Assholes on this board.

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
151. Good job, my dear.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:42 PM
Aug 2025

Is she using a 'Yellow' theme now when choosing her user name?

Cha

(319,069 posts)
160. Whatever color it's boring to see
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:14 PM
Aug 2025

a little treasonous toady Trying constantly to claw at the door to ooze slime on Democracy.

Traitor has the uglies fans.

Sage

Irish_Dem

(81,263 posts)
26. We are suckers, losers, and worthless eaters.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:01 AM
Aug 2025

If we are not making the billionaires richer.

They want our savings.

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
47. They Want Our Parking Spots
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:41 AM
Aug 2025

And videogames! They'll have to pry my Borderlands 4 game cartridge from my cold dead hands!

Irish_Dem

(81,263 posts)
48. Don Jr is the one in charge of prying video games from the hands of old dead people.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:43 AM
Aug 2025

Sorry, the Trump crime syndicate won't let you take the games with you to the grave.

Yep they will take your parking spot too.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
35. It will disproportionately kill the elderly, who disproportionately vote Republican.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:17 AM
Aug 2025

Or at least they used to, before Republicans passed their BBB bill in July cutting $1 Trillion from Medicare over the next 10 years.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
55. Yep. I'm betting the vaccine will be available to a few privileged admirers.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:59 AM
Aug 2025

The more of us oldies who die, the more money they have to steal from Social Security and Medicare.

LiberalArkie

(19,804 posts)
69. To thin out the non-white and sick population
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:22 AM
Aug 2025

Total cumulative data show Black, Hispanic, American Indian or Alaska Native (AIAN), and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (NHOPI) people have experienced higher rates of COVID-19 cases and deaths compared to White people when data are adjusted to account for differences in age by race and ethnicity.


https://www.kff.org/covid-19/covid-19-cases-and-deaths-by-race-ethnicity-current-data-and-changes-over-time/

pat_k

(13,373 posts)
131. To the 47 regime, every year a senior's life is shortened...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 03:58 PM
Aug 2025

... is a "beautiful" savings.

Not a joke. They actually believe this.

Same with hastening the deaths of the working poor who currently, or at some point in the future, may collect any of the pennies in assistance that will remain when they're done with their "beautiful savings" on Medicaid, Medicare, and every other hard won program that is absolutely necessary for survival against the insanity of an unfettered free market.

Nevermind that private sector profits are utterly dependent on a strong public sector they are hellbent on dismantling.

The priorities are so out of whack it is like we are living in the upside-down of Stranger Things.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,050 posts)
6. Just told hubby yesterday that we better get
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:00 AM
Aug 2025

It and the flu shot, in case they ban it. I guess the shot now is better than none later.

Ms. Toad

(38,637 posts)
134. I was on the fence.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 04:29 PM
Aug 2025

I skipped last spring's vaccination because I wasn't on stage in May. I ordinarily get the vaccination 2 weeks before I go on stage (and unmask). I wasn't around a lot of people indoors this summer, so I didn't get it this summer. Since it is fall, I was debating whether to get the spring version, or wait for the fall.

I think I probably shouldn't wait, given the idiots in charge.

RexLipton

(110 posts)
61. Oh, they'll have the vaccines and the best medical care as well!
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:08 AM
Aug 2025

These bans are just for the old, poor and infirm. People who can’t do anything for them and so they’re a drain on the system.

Moostache

(11,178 posts)
77. No... they deserve to die from illnesses that would otherwise be prevented or cured.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:43 AM
Aug 2025

They also deserve to suffer for extended periods with no administration of pain medication of any kind either. They should be bled with leeches and have cranical holes drilled to alleviate swelling and allow the evil spirits an escpae route from their heads. This should all be done with NO ANTISEPTICS, NO STERILIZATIONS and only a dirty ass priest muttering things in Latin in a corner of the dirty room they are cut open in.

mainer

(12,554 posts)
11. And then they'll ban masks in public, too
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:11 AM
Aug 2025

No vaccines. No way to protect ourselves. But all the ivermectin you want.

Response to mainer (Reply #11)

bmichaelh

(1,181 posts)
13. Why is COVID vaccines being prescribed?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:13 AM
Aug 2025

Because people are still dying from COVID.

For example, the British actor, Kenneth Colley, who played Admiral Piett in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi contracted COVID and pneumonia in the hospital and died recently.

Bunch of idiots in charge of healthcare in this country.

Seems Trump wants to have two worst presidencies ever.

RFK Jr was parodied in The Simpsons last year.
There was a character called Robert F. Quimby Jr. who blamed a death on vaccines at a funeral..
The mayor responded:
"You shut up, Robert F. Quimby Jr.! You're an embarrassment to this family. And that's saying a lot!"

RFK Jr is complete embarrassment.



Response to bmichaelh (Reply #13)

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
40. Colley had originally been admitted to hospital with an injured arm after a fall, but quickly contracted Covid.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:25 AM
Aug 2025

Blues Heron

(8,837 posts)
14. They really are Nazis.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:14 AM
Aug 2025

If you ever wondered what you would have done under the Nazis in Germany in the 1930s - your doing it right now.

DFW

(60,184 posts)
163. Well, not quite
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:00 PM
Aug 2025

What I am doing now is living in Germany, probably NOT what I would be doing under the National (or any other) Socialists in the 1930s.

yorkster

(3,832 posts)
15. Is there such a thing as herd fury?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:17 AM
Aug 2025

'Cause something sure is building.

This is what we have been dreading. This and much morel, of course.

bmichaelh

(1,181 posts)
17. Plan on getting COVID vaccine in September
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:26 AM
Aug 2025

Plan on getting COVID vaccine in September, if updated booster is available.
Not sure what roadblocks I will run into.
I am not yet 65 but am undergoing active lymphoma maintenance treatments.
My doctor assures me that they will take care of me if my local pharmacy refuses.

Response to bmichaelh (Reply #17)

Escape

(469 posts)
23. A severe case of Covid...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:48 AM
Aug 2025

might very well kill the sickly, pasty, senile, old asshole in the Oval Office. Proceed.

keep_left

(3,210 posts)
92. Trump *was* almost killed by Covid the first time around.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:46 AM
Aug 2025

He got absolutely heroic measures thrown at him in order to save his life, including something like 20 rounds of Regeneron antibody therapy.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220539838#post29

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
28. Idiot anti-vaxxers leading the nation
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:01 AM
Aug 2025

A proud day to be... well, Welsh. Greek is good too.


(don't bother, Statler & Waldorf. Don't bother)

Jimvanhise

(594 posts)
29. TRUMP REALLY HATES AMERICA
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:02 AM
Aug 2025

Everything he has done this year has been done to harm the United States, not make anything better. He is doing to America like he is doing to all of his perceived "enemies."

tanyev

(49,291 posts)
32. Yep. If the U.S. were successfully invaded and the government taken over by foreign occupiers,
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:09 AM
Aug 2025

I feel it would look exactly like what the Trump administration is now doing.


markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
42. If the US had been invaded by a foreign power, the government taken over,
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:32 AM
Aug 2025

and they were doing what the current regime is doing, there would be a hell of a lot more resistance.

Great empires are not conquered from without until they have crumbled from within.
Will and Ariel Durant

harumph

(3,278 posts)
102. Ah, Will and Ariel; I have the the set of The Story of Civilization.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 01:00 PM
Aug 2025

Good bedtime reading. They would be appalled at the "memory holing" that we engage in.

mainer

(12,554 posts)
31. Over the border to Canada I'll go
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:04 AM
Aug 2025

I hope Canadian drugstores offer vaccines to Americans -- at a price, of course.

hunter

(40,690 posts)
85. When you come back they'll ask at the border if you got the vaccine.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:09 AM
Aug 2025

If you say "yes," or even if you say "no" and they think you did, they'll detain you indefinitely.

yorkster

(3,832 posts)
130. Sherbrooke Quebec...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 03:48 PM
Aug 2025

Then there's the getting back in part.
Burner phones for all, I guess.

ShazzieB

(22,588 posts)
148. Windsor, Ontario would be our nearest entry point.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:24 PM
Aug 2025

It would be a long day trip, but doable if necesary. I wonder what the vaccine would cost up there for non Canadians.

I guess we need to apply for our passport cards now so we can get them in time. *SIGH*

evemac

(321 posts)
33. I wonder if
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:13 AM
Aug 2025

The medical community would rally and do something collectively. They know how this would impact all of better that anyone.

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
44. Banned? Nah...they're will be plenty on hand for the Fuhrer and the richest of the rich
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:33 AM
Aug 2025

Everyone else can just DIE..................

Bluetus

(2,795 posts)
46. I have several friends who have gotten COVID in the past 6 weeks
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:35 AM
Aug 2025

The cases are more mild now, but they are still like a really bad flu. This is insanity.

mwmisses4289

(4,186 posts)
58. Any and all vaccines could be next.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:02 AM
Aug 2025

This is the antivaxxer crowd, the ones who believe the long debunked nonsense that vaccines cause autism. The ones who believe that childrens book that makes light of how dangerous measles really are.
Idiots who took whatever intelligence they had and hid it somewhere so safe, now they can't find it.
We all better learn herbal medicine, it's what they are reducing us to.

Bluetus

(2,795 posts)
98. Could be. Kennedy seems to be on the warpath against MRNA vaccines
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:39 PM
Aug 2025

an MRNA therapy has entered trials that has the promise of providing short-term protection against ALL known viruses. It would be effective for several weeks, with the main use case being to protect first responders who are sent into an infection zone.

Of course we want to make sure all these therapies are safe. That's why we have the rigid testing protocols and the panels of experts.

And we're going to let this dumbass who has zero medical trailing destroy all of that?

keep_left

(3,210 posts)
95. Trump even had to stop his boasting about "Operation Warp Speed"...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:56 AM
Aug 2025

...because the MAGA chud morons booed him when he did (and when he recommended that they take the vaccine).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220539838#post25

?si=Jvr4rh92ExG2LaIk

caraher

(6,359 posts)
105. Still, maybe he can be played
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 01:25 PM
Aug 2025

What if Gavin Newsom praised him unironically for developing a beautiful, perfect vaccine?

ShazzieB

(22,588 posts)
150. It's so weird.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:40 PM
Aug 2025

They are willing to take his word for SO MANY ridiculous things...but not this! There's no explaining MAGA cultists.

Incanus

(180 posts)
52. This is unconscionable. What's next, banning flu and pneumonia vaccines?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:50 AM
Aug 2025

I hope everyone who's at risk can get vaccinated before it's banned. I'm fortunate that my employer has vaccine clinics every September or I would have to pay for a doctor's visit or a hefty co-pay at the pharmacy.

GiqueCee

(4,257 posts)
54. Oh, it's on...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:57 AM
Aug 2025

... mothafuckahs! IMPEACH BOTH OF THESE BAGS OF RAT SHIT! NO MERCY!

God damn both of these murderers to Hell.

Emile

(42,289 posts)
57. The latest vaccine is supposed to come out mid September.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:01 AM
Aug 2025

God, I hope it will be available. Covid is on the rise around here.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
137. An actual BAN really throws that into question. After their defunding of mrNA vaccines, we obviously
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 05:00 PM
Aug 2025

weren't going to be getting one next year or any year after that as long as this country remains under fascist control.

Response to douglas9 (Original post)

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
67. Did this miserable son of a bitch not tell congress that he would not interfere with immunizations??
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:14 AM
Aug 2025

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
70. Welcome to our world, guys!! A world where politicians w/o medical experience make medical decisions for you.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:27 AM
Aug 2025


I know we all ask this multiple times a day, but IS ANYONE GOING TO STOP THIS ORANGE FUKCING ASSHOLE?

Liberal In Texas

(16,270 posts)
71. Rumor has it news.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:31 AM
Aug 2025

I think I'll wait for more credible reporting from someone besides the Daily Beast.

Random Boomer

(4,405 posts)
93. Another click-bait headline
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:47 AM
Aug 2025

This isn't news out of the Trump Administration, it's just some hanger-on trying to promote his own agenda.

SpankMe

(3,720 posts)
75. Excess deaths in the US
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:36 AM
Aug 2025
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

During the Covid pandemic, before the vaccine was introduced, the increase in excess deaths (i.e. the number of deaths above the prior all-cause baseline) was between 10% and 50% in most months. That number is down into the single digits today. The total number of excess deaths was close to 1 million during the 22 months before the vaccine became available. That's one million people who WOULD NOT HAVE DIED had there been no Covid or Covid vaccine.

If they succeed in banning the vaccine, those excess deaths will increase again as each mutation occurs and spreads. It'll be an additional half million or so per year. Maybe more.

Of all the shit this asshole president and HHS lackey have done, this would be the most serious. This one should move people to force a real turnover in government in the next election. Dems must jump on this now and stay on it forever.

Few of the responses in this thread reflect the true serious of this. They want to ban the vaccine, and ban mask mandates, and ban remote work, and ban social distancing policies. How can this be interpreted as anything other than a plot to kill millions.

Pro-life, indeed.

Six117

(339 posts)
76. Epstein Epstein Epstein
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:37 AM
Aug 2025

Release the Epstein files. Doing so it's far more constructive than whatever the hell banning vaccines is going to do.

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
78. Ooh the "Trump Vaccine" is bad?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:44 AM
Aug 2025

After all they were created during his operation Warp Speed. My guess they will pull all payments including hobbling private insurace paying for it and try and claim to plan to deny coverage for COVID vaccine "injuries", leading to immediate litigation. They get their talking points and coverage for vaccines hold but lingering fear about not being covered in the future for the public.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
79. Who is Aseem Malhotra?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:44 AM
Aug 2025
Aseem Malhotra: ‘The harm caused by the Covid vaccine has been catastrophic’

Dr Aseem Malhotra is no stranger to controversy. A decade ago, as an NHS clinician, he founded Action on Sugar, a campaign group credited with forcing Public Health England to push for lower levels of sugar in popular products. At the time, he was branded an agent of the “nanny state”, removing packaging that appealed to children and forcing sugar warnings on the public.

The cardiologist, 47, has also been a vocal critic of the widespread use of statins – one of the most prescribed medications on the NHS – as a preventative drug to reduce the risk of heart disease.

But it is since the outbreak of Covid-19 that he has risen to serious public prominence, first as a proponent of the UK government’s vaccine rollout, then as one of its fiercest critics. He has repeatedly claimed that the mRNA vaccines developed during the pandemic did “more harm than good” and called for them to be suspended.

Now he has a new role which gives him a huge influence over global health policy. A long-time ally of Robert F Kennedy Jr, Donald Trump’s health secretary, Malhotra was recently appointed chief medical adviser to the “MAHA Institute” (dedicated to RFK Jr’s “Make America Healthy Again” mantra), making him perhaps the most powerful Briton in Trump’s administration.

more...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/13/aseem-malhotra-interview/

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
159. These influencer have products to sell
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:07 PM
Aug 2025

They have a clear agenda. Steering Americans to their bullshit products that are worthless, overly expensive, and make them rich. They are vastly more compromised than the vaccine makers.

NCDem47

(3,470 posts)
84. I guess I'll need to bake in a trip to Canada to get shots in the future...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:08 AM
Aug 2025

Unless the U.S. starts arresting people on re-entry for doing this.

"Freedom" "Liberty" "Don't Tread on Me" my ass!

Botany

(77,323 posts)
86. That vaccine saved my life. I got a wicked case of COVID but it didn't kill me thanks to the vaccination.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:16 AM
Aug 2025

In October of 2023 I got an E. coli infection in my gut and needed surgery and after the
hospital I had 3 months in a nursing home before I got back to my house and Labrador
and COVID ran through the nursing home and I got very ill with it but it didn’t kill me thanx
to the C-19 vaccine. I am better now but this is madness and this will kill 100s of thousands
of Americans. Btw this anti vaccine, anti mRNA, and anti science crap is 100% Russian in
origin in order to hurt and weaken America.

Here is an idea why not leave this up to the doctors and scientists?

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
88. Which means my husband and I . . .
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:24 AM
Aug 2025

Need to get our shots sooner rather than later.

These maniacs will kill us all!

Botany

(77,323 posts)
91. Part of the fascist take over of America. Such as Republican Governors sending National Guard Troops ..
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:43 AM
Aug 2025

… to bust heads and arrest people who protest against Trump.

Initech

(108,782 posts)
94. What a bunch of fucking assholes.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:47 AM
Aug 2025

Words cannot express how much I truly despise these motherfuckers. Fuck Trump and fuck RFK Jr. To the hottest and fieriest circle of the depths of hell!

Response to Initech (Reply #94)

LPBBEAR

(658 posts)
97. Time for action
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:27 PM
Aug 2025

Actually its way past time but whatever.

With this move, if this is true, Trump and his cronies have moved past just being incompetent, evil, and stupid. This WILL kill Americans, By whatever means available he and all of his supporters need to be forcibly removed, By whatever means.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
100. Given that the death rate from covid is currently one tenth of 1%,
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:50 PM
Aug 2025

even if the vaccine is totally banned (and I'll go out on a limb here and say that it won't be), very few more people will die from it. Very few.

As of August 22, 2025, the global death rate for COVID-19 is approximately 0.1%. This is based on the latest data from the World Health Organization (WHO), which reports over 7.3 million deaths worldwide since the start of the pandemic.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
139. This isn't just about COVID. This regime has defunded production of all mRNA vaccines and would
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 05:21 PM
Aug 2025

love nothing more than to ban them all, which I would assume they will if they get away with this. Our ability to survive future pandemics (which are all but guaranteed, and will almost certainly be more lethal, considering how stupidly lucky we got with COVID's decreasing mortality rate over time) has been all but completely sacrificed in the name of conspiracy theories and fascist ideology.

The precedent being set by this is beyond disastrous.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
101. The fear of Covid and other infectious diseases will keep people from protesting in the streets against Thai fascist
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:51 PM
Aug 2025

Evil regime. And I hope multiple members of his family and republicans politicians get those infectious deadly diseases while the rest of us wear our masks.

cab67

(3,749 posts)
103. RFK Jr to be arrested for criminally negligent homicide a few months after that.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 01:02 PM
Aug 2025

Not really, I know - but that's what should happen if the vaccine is banned.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
106. I would think ... hope ... there are enough sane voices in Congress to stop this stupidity.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 01:27 PM
Aug 2025

lonely bird

(2,941 posts)
108. A couple of things...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 01:55 PM
Aug 2025

Ok, party of personal responsibility, you refuse to get a vaccine, any vaccine and you get sick then you don’t get treated, period. Go buy ivermectin from the vet.

RFK should have worn a condom.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
109. I'm guessing a flat-earther appointed to the USGS soon
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 02:02 PM
Aug 2025

while a moon-landing denier is appointed to NASA... and Marcel Marceau sings the national anthem for effect.

119. Scheduled my flu and pneumonia vaccines for this Friday
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 02:19 PM
Aug 2025

I have a bad feeling they’ll be banned soon too.

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
121. This POS and Mrs. Trophy were literally the first people in the US to receive the vaccine in late 2020
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 02:25 PM
Aug 2025

The way your health is Trump, a good case of Covid would kill you in just a few days.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
178. They actually do
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 10:32 PM
Aug 2025

One of these billionaire fascists said he wanted the us population trimmed to 10 million. I can’t remember who it was that said this.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
127. Who predicted this around here? Yeah...where is that one particular poster here who
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 03:02 PM
Aug 2025

goes on and on about how great RFK jr is and how he wont do anything bad?

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
135. I never want to hear Republicans say how they believe in personal freedom ever fucking again.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 04:49 PM
Aug 2025

Fuck this party of eugenicists. Anyone pushing this deserves what they're clearly trying to inflict on the rest of us.

Actual freedom includes the choice to get vaccinated no matter how many fascist anti-vaxxers control the fucking government. These trash humans complained constantly about having the vaccine "forced" upon them and framed themselves as rebellious heroes for resisting it, meaning they knew full well they weren't actually being "forced." They made a choice not to get it. Now, they don't want to give anyone a fucking choice in the matter. Funny how that works.

Frankly, the fact that this country has even gotten to the point where this is possible (let alone accepted by the majority) is one of the most obvious signs of a failed state there is. No one should have their future determined by conspiracy theorists. Conspiracy theorists who were mainstreamed in the middle of a fucking pandemic by these loons.

Anyone who values their health and has the means needs to get the fuck out of here.

GiqueCee

(4,257 posts)
145. Any sentient being...
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 06:58 PM
Aug 2025

... with even rudimentary critical thinking skills already knows that Trump is evil incarnate, but we're still learning the depths of Kennedy's depravity, and we learned a lot today. This entire administration is infested with incompetent, sociopathic cockroaches.But these two showed their hands a bit too early. Now we KNOW, beyond the remotest shadow of a doubt, that they are both homicidal monsters with every intention of murdering as many innocent Americans as possible. The federal legal code still allows capital punishment for mass murder of this obscene magnitude, and this certainly qualifies – or it fucking well should.
Let Kennedy join his esteemed uncle and father, even if for all the wrong reasons. And there's a special hole in Hell reserved for the Gangrenous Boil on the Ass of Humanity. These psychopaths have to be stopped.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
152. I just saw my doctor last week for a check up and he advised me to get the updated Covid vaccine
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:45 PM
Aug 2025

I have tried to keep up by getting the newest ones and as far as I know I've been Covid-free so far... I have asthma.

Bread and Circuses

(2,045 posts)
154. Prediction . The billionaires and rat republicans will keep the vaccines for themselves .....
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:46 PM
Aug 2025

….and there will be a black market for Covid vaccines .


So, now we know they will kill us.

If we don’t die of a disease, they’ll shoot us as we cry out in agony on the streets.

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
157. Dont worry, they will all be vaccinated
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:03 PM
Aug 2025

They are happy to kill you, but we all know they're getting the vaccine.

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
158. They won't ban them, they'll say insurances don't have to cover them
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:04 PM
Aug 2025

They can stop them from being covered by Medicare or Medicaid. I'm not sure what covid vacines would cost but I'm guessing it would be more than those on a fixed income could afford.

States could pick up the slack and help defer costs. Red states would do nothing and covid cases would spike in those areas.

No matter how you shake it, it's fucked up.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
162. That's what we assumed they would do last week when the guidance was being issued, but this goes
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 08:21 PM
Aug 2025

beyond that...and honestly, it's not that surprising. It's pure red meat. These fascists have defunded production of mRNA vaccines in general. They mainstreamed and embraced anti-vaxers in the middle of a pandemic entirely for political gain. There are no limits to their insanity or their cruelty.

C Moon

(13,643 posts)
166. I'll bet trump and his family will be secretly getting flu and COVID vaccines. So will the rich.
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 12:26 AM
Aug 2025

I wouldn't put it past him to charge thousands to people who want "illegal" vaccines.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
173. The UNITED states
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 06:55 AM
Aug 2025

But the Blue States can get around this.NJ is a Big Pharma state with a ton of beautiful minds, scientists, and Pharma talent.

If we don't engage in interstate Commerce - we can do whatever the hell we want.

Seven months in and we've had it with these assholes. It's time to go behind their backs and do whatever ensures we keep people gainfully employed.

No bullets, no weapons, no violence.

But a quiet gentle first shot at secession.

D_Master81

(2,585 posts)
174. Makes sense
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 07:16 AM
Aug 2025

You mean Trump is going to ban the vaccine that he boasted he was responsible for getting fast tracked in 2020? Got it

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,849 posts)
175. These Assholes want to limit COVID vaccinations to people over 65 or who have one of these conditions
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 03:41 PM
Aug 2025

These factors will still exclude people who need the COVID vaccination



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