Hello, anybody home?

[choie]

I know I'm going to be bashed for this - but where the FUCK are the Democrats? We have the National Guard roaming the streets of DC with guns, the FBI raiding Bolton's house, the cover up in plain sight of trump's bribery of G. Maxwell in order to hide his crimes with underage girls. And the only person truly speaking out is Gavin Newsom??? Is everyone else on vacation and don't think we've reached the fascism stage so they'll wait until the fall or the midterms?

I know, I know, I'll now get responses providing a single feeble quote from Schumer or Jeffries etc. or a response of "what can the Democrats do?"

That is bullshit.

[marble falls]

1. We're here, where are our leaders. I feel we're going to be reduced to a mob.

[markie]

2. yes, and

where are we??? we the people need to be tens of millions in the streets... we have the power if we collectively use it... I know the argument, just livid that we can't work together to change this

[Scrivener7]

35. I've been swarmed and criticized for saying this, but that needs leaders to organize it.

Otherwise all the rank and file Democrats are spitting into the wind with our individual efforts.

[sinkingfeeling]

3. They're plotting the revolution.

[mcar]

4. So what you're saying is

that if posters prove to you that elected Democrats are doing something, it still doesn't count because you say so.

Cool.

[Oopsie Daisy]

6. I know, right? Ain't that some shit?

[mcar]

14. Any excuse to bash Democrats

SMH.

[Oopsie Daisy]

20. It's easy to bash Democrats when someone doesn't understand (or accept) the fact that Democrats are NOT the majority.

There seems to be some mistaken notion that if we shit on our Democratic leadership and party often enough, and loud enough... then it will change reality and *poof!* magically, the Democrats will be in the majority again. But, again... returning to the REAL WORLD... that will only happen if more people vote for Democrats that for the GOP (or third party spoilers). Still all this shitting only serves to drive voters AWAY from supporting the party. And, that only helps the GOP.

This is what I call sabotage! It's absolute treachery.

[mcar]

21. It never changes

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the purity patrol complains if Democrats speak out - "weak" "strongly worded letter" - if they act -"WTF are the Democrats? Why aren't they screaming about this" - or, of course, if they hold one position the patrol doesn't like, or God forbid, mention their faith.

[Oopsie Daisy]

29. Praise!

[betsuni]

38. Reality is establishment.

Authentic holding Democratic feet to the campfire speaking truth to Democrats without power fighting standing up to Democrats BEHOLD THE PASSION OF THE MARTYRS IGNORED BY DEMOCRATS. Status quo.

[Oopsie Daisy]

39. Behold! Praise! Hallelujah!

You nailed it! NAILED IT!!!

[choie]

8. If they can show that the "proof" is more than

a weak quote - that's correct!

[mcar]

13. Ah, the old "strongly worded letter" nonsense

Cool.

Who gets to decide if the quote is weak or strong? Is there a committee?

[choie]

16. Yeah.

I do!

[Iggo]

48. Jeffries literally and unironically said "strongly worded letter" twice in the same bullshit statement.

[Oopsie Daisy]

5. Here we go again, right on time... as regular as the Black Forest cuckoo clock hanging in my den.

The little bird comes out to sing... the chimes ding... and I know that it's time for yet another "time to shit on Democrats" thread. 🎶 Cuckoo! Cuckoo! 🎶 🐦️

This needs to stop. It serves no good purpose. It's divisive and a divided party is a weakened party. The false narrative creates distrust and that only causes voters to avoid supporting Democrats... and that serves to benefit the GOP and Trump.

So, why would ANYONE want to do or say ANYTHING that ultimately benefits the Republicans and Trump? Cut it out.

[choie]

9. I'll stop when I see that they're doing their job as Democrats.

The republicans are a lost cause - or do you not get that yet? It is not a false narrative. I'm sick and tired of seeing the posters on this site protecting the Democrats from valid criticism. Stop being so damn sensitive. Just stop it already.

[Oopsie Daisy]

32. No, it's not "valid criticism" ... it's whining. And it demonstrates a lack of understanding of political realities.

It's little more than an indulgent fantasy that the Democrats have some sort of magic-pill or magic-wand that will CURE EVERYTHING, INSTANTLY. --- It's spreading the false notion that the Democrats have it in their power to work some sort of MIRACLE, but for unknown reasons, the "mean-old Democrats" just refuse to do it.

Look, I understand the impulse to engage in these sort of Veruca Salt temper tantrums and Grandpa Simpson shouting at clouds... after all, these are indeed scary and tough times. But none of this is helpful. Portraying our Democratic leadership as "lazy" or "clueless" or "scared" (or whatever the trendy insult-of-the-day might be) is an ineffective use of one's anger.

I recommend finding productive ways to channel the anger, fear and frustration. I assure everyone that non-stop shitting on Democrats is not the way to bring about the desired change (unless what someone wants is a weakened and divided party).

[mcar]

34. "unless what someone wants is a weakened and divided party"

🤔

[sheshe2]

42. It is not valid criticism

When people are saying:

"Where are the FUCKING DEMOCRATS?
"Where the FUCK are the Democrats?"
"Democrats Suck!"
etc etc etc

Frankly You made it clear you don't want any answers when you said:

I know, I know, I'll now get responses providing a single feeble quote from Schumer or Jeffries etc. or a response of "what can the Democrats do?"

That is bullshit.

Because anything we will say, you will call feeble. So, I won't tell you what Gov Pritzker just said in an interview just hours ago, you can do a search for that yourself.

[hunter]

7. Where are you?

Do your political representatives cross the street or sneak out a side door when they see you coming? Or do they smile and stop to chat?

Politics is not a spectator sport. Sitting in the grandstands and cheering for your team is the very least you can do, but in a functioning democracy nobody is excluded from the playing field.

[choie]

10. I am in no way a spectator.

I live in NYC and am very involved on a state and city level. Next question.

[hunter]

25. Then what are you complaining about?

Here in California I think Governor Newsom is doing a pretty good job representing me, same with Alex Padilla. Adam Schiff is too close to the political center for my taste. Overall, the political "center" of the U.S.A. has always stunk of authoritarianism, racism, and misogyny.

My local reps are mostly cool, excepting a few evangelical Christians and right wing Catholics who greatly annoy me with their anti-intellectualism.

Which member of the Democratic Party do you find most annoying and ineffective, is "anybody home," as you say?

Maybe you could start working on them rather than disparaging the entire party.

Like it or not, the U.S. Constitution makes a two party system inevitable. We can support the Democratic Party, or we can slide further backwards. Yeah, that can be frustrating at times.

I'm a radical environmentalist and some kind of socialist. I get extremely frustrated with politics sometimes but practically speaking the Democratic Party is the only game in town. Republicans and third party candidates only impede progress.

[LeftInTX]

11. The Texas Democrats did everything they could to prevent redistricting.

Did you not notice? Newsom, Pritzker, and Hochul took them in. Those states are doing what they can to fight redistricting.

Should they abandon their battles and start yelling and screaming instead?
Because yelling and screaming always works.
Should they be arming themselves with tanks instead??
Where would we get the tanks, bombs etc??

Everyone cheered on Al Green, but guess what? He's been redistricted out of his district.

If you haven't noticed, states are fighting the National Guard takeover.

I suggest since, you are so active with the Democratic party, at least make a list of what they should be doing. Because I see these blanket complaints, with no real concrete solutions. And if Democrats challenge Trump in court, it isn't considered, "Good enough". Democrats introduce bills, but obviously, that's not good enough.


Please tell me what you expect them to do? Other than a successful Jan 6th like overthrow, do you have any options that will work?

[mcar]

15. And if they do yell and scream

some here will sneer at it as a "strongly worded letter."

[LeftInTX]

18. And heaven forbid they should ask for donations to "fight Trump"!

That's an even bigger sin.

[mcar]

22. Yep

[sheshe2]

43. Brava Bella!

You nailed it with this:

I suggest since, you are so active with the Democratic party, at least make a list of what they should be doing. Because I see these blanket complaints, with no real concrete solutions. And if Democrats challenge Trump in court, it isn't considered, "Good enough". Democrats introduce bills, but obviously, that's not good enough.

...and more. TY.

[Torchlight]

12. They're not doing precisely what I expect them to

I get it.

[Brainfodder]

17. It is just a political party, not a commune with an armory ready at any moment for membership to use?

Just a guess.

[LeftInTX]

19. What they don't have an armory? That's news to me!

[hamsterjill]

23. Yep, I see the bashing.

Don't worry, you are not alone in your thinking.

Newsom is amazing and we need more Democrats on the national level to be openly and publicly and strongly standing WITH him and doing more of what he is doing.

Stating the truth is not being negative as to Democrats. It's simply asking more of them than what they are giving. Even NEWSOM has said the same thing.

[madibella]

24. Democrats need to get on every camera interview etc

And hammer over and over just how dangerous this admin is.

You know, like the republicans successfully did the last four years against Biden.

[womanofthehills]

45. Dems need a united Gaza policy

We have seen those who are still supporting Israel be heckled at their town halls or when giving talks. So mainly it’s the progressives who are speaking out. .

[H2O Man]

26. My question is:

When will the grass roots step up the protests to a higher level? Gandhi-King tactics?

"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!"
–Mario Savio

[markie]

27. protests, boycotts, shut downs.....

we must do this collectively... best idea is buy nothing... pretty much there now, waiting for others to join

[H2O Man]

28. Right.

I sometimes question if those who think that their elected representatives are either "not doing enough" (Democrats) or the "wrong thing" have contacted them to voice their opinion? If not, that might suggest an option made available to them by Amendment 1:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” -- Amendment 1

Older community members may recall that a little over a decade ago, when a state senator refused to meet with representatives of the environmental community, I began a hunger strike to place pressure upon him. High school classes began writing to the senator, saying his refusal to meet us went against what they were learning about representative government in their social studies classes.

In time, state-wide environmentals met at the state capital. There were over 1,200 there when I spoke. Within half an hour, I met the senator, after his staff informed him I was making him look bad. Ten minutes later, we met as a group.

I cannot say that all 1,200+ were registered Democrats. But as a Democrat myself, that is my answer to questions about "where are the Democrats?" The grass roots needs to step up.

[Hotler]

47. Protest, boycotts and shut downs take participation.

Is there something that doesn't require me to get up off the couch? I tried the spending boycott but, that was too much effort.

[doc03]

30. They are scared of Trump, he has been threatening

to sue anyone that speaks ill of him.

[doc03]

31. What ever happened to the No Kings ralley.

There was talk at the ralley about doing more
in the coming weeks. Haven't heard from it since.

[murielm99]

33. In my bright red county, we have been out in front of

the courthouse every Saturday since. We will be out there Labor Day. If you are not hearing anything, rally the people yourself. Don't wait for others.

[SunSeeker]

46. They're still happening pretty regularly. Look up one near you and attend.

https://www.findaprotest.info/?radius=15

[Scrivener7]

36. So, choie, sadly my takeaway from these answers to your very valid question are:

1. They're all out there doing everything we need them to do and this is all just fine, you silly.
2. You, choie, personally, need to lead the charge against Republicans.

Which is par for the course for the swarm of 5 or 6 who pollute every thread that asks the question you asked.

I appreciate your effort, though.

[choie]

37. Thanks Scrivener7

I appreciate yours as well!

[JustAnotherGen]

41. NJ is not engaged

We are fighting to stay Blue in 10 weeks.

[JustAnotherGen]

40. What can you do?

The Dominant Culture needs to get outraged at what is happening and proceed from there.

I've got two Assembly members and Governor to get over the finish line in NJ.

I understand that there is *soft secession* meetings of Blue State AG's. NJ must remain Blue this November.

[dalton99a]

44. They have been kidnapped by space aliens for safekeeping