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Another Jackalope

(142 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:15 AM Aug 2025

Once they win elections, it's already too late.

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In 1933, German conservatives thought they could control Hitler. Two years later, they were being executed in their own homes. I spent weeks researching this question, desperately looking for counter-examples, for hope, for any time in history where people successfully stopped fascists after they started winning elections.

Here's what I found: Once fascists win power democratically, they have never been removed democratically. Not once. Ever.

I know that sounds impossible. I kept digging, thinking surely someone, somewhere, stopped them. The actual record is so much worse than you think.
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https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/i-researched-every-attempt-to-stop

Pretty damn sobering. He outlines a number of approaches that might be helpful, even in this state of post-victory fascism. They might or might not work, but what do you have to lose at this point?

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Once they win elections, it's already too late. (Original Post) Another Jackalope Aug 2025 OP
Once they rig elections it's too late. gab13by13 Aug 2025 #1
Very interesting and sobering essay, a must read. sop Aug 2025 #2

sop

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2. Very interesting and sobering essay, a must read.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:33 AM
Aug 2025

Off the top of my head, I can think of only Lula democratically defeating Bolsonaro in Brazil, regaining power after several years of a "fascist" Trump-like regime.

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