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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that this isn't from "shaking hands."
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Jo
@JoJoFromJerz
If Joe Bidens hand had looked like it was covered in grey scale Fox would be running that shit on a loop 24/7.
Lovie777
(23,728 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,964 posts)Bruising which has been covered with flesh colored makeup, and some layers of skin are starting to slough, potentially because of a dry-matte makeup and powder or a fixative applied over broken skin causing epidermis layers to dry out as it heals instead of being moisturized, and the layers are tinted grayish due to the makeup.
I hope it is makeup and not something like paint that isn't skin safe. My first impression is it is "full cover" liquid foundation that's very opaque and designed to cover tattoos or bruises. We used to use it in theater to hide tattoos or scars or reduce the look of beard-stubble. Abrasion from constant rubbing or application could cause thin skin to dry and peel.
Diamond_Dog
(41,046 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)CentralMass
(16,994 posts)Totally Tunsie
(12,013 posts)Cha
(320,554 posts)KentuckyWoman
(7,417 posts)
mercuryblues
(16,515 posts)With a better makeup coverage.
Aristus
(72,520 posts)Thats how she got the job.
But youre right. What a colossally stupid thing to say. Plus, she had to throw in the standard idiotic Trump superlative that he shakes more hands than any President in history.
Actually, IIRC, the record goes to William McKinley, who earned the honor in only one term (and in a time before hand sanitizer. Bleh!)
enigmania
(507 posts)shaken hands with hundreds of veterans, bikers, and blue collar workers on many, many weekends for decades. Strangely enough, my hand hasn't rotted off yet.
thought crime
(1,786 posts)They believe what they're told to believe. Official lies are OK with them.
Blues Heron
(9,028 posts)rurallib
(64,831 posts)where the guy just decomposes in front of someone.
I think there is an odor that goes with that, but that would be hard to tell with Trump
JoseBalow
(9,739 posts)
malaise
(297,938 posts)Frenzy😂
Grim Chieftain
(2,032 posts)bluestarone
(22,465 posts)We need some inside stuff decomposing happening.
lark
(26,113 posts)His brains (if he ever had much) have leaked out and nothing but hate and self aggrandizement is left.
DeeDeeNY
(3,964 posts)k55f5r
(525 posts)bif
(27,227 posts)exactly!
Wednesdays
(23,125 posts)Just so long as he is disallowed electronic devices or contact with people!
thought crime
(1,786 posts)Maru Kitteh
(32,010 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 25, 2025, 06:06 PM - Edit history (1)
As an RN thats one of my first questions. They keep blowing out the veins on the back of his hands when they are doing either infusions or blood draws. It keeps drawing attention. The logical thing is to use the AC on the inside of his elbow where its not going to show when he does these press conferences. Are his ACs in bad shape? If so, why?
Any medical DUers with thoughts on that?
multigraincracker
(38,040 posts)Hate to think what they might look like.
returnee
(980 posts)And depending on ones vascular health, the antecubital vein doesnt always work either.
littlemissmartypants
(34,346 posts)The hands are easier to stick and seldom fail to deliver. That's especially true if someone has rolling veins.
"Rolling veins" can be a painliterallyfor the patient and the phlebotomist or the registered nurse trying to get a blood sample or start an IV. Medical professionals sometimes use the term "rolling veins" to describe those veins that seem to move or roll away every time a needle gets close to them.
https://allnurses.com/rolling-veins-a-quick-guide-t630840/
lark
(26,113 posts)Blood draws are not usually too bad because my hands can be used and those veins, while bad, are accessible. When I need an IV in my arm, I am in trouble and the vein finder ALWAYS has to be used. Ugh!!! Nightmare city for me and the phlebotomist.
littlemissmartypants
(34,346 posts)Mossfern
(4,775 posts)It works well for me. I also make sure I'm well hydrated. My veins are kind of like yours - they roll, are thin and often just turn off in the middle of a draw. About six years ago I was having a PET scan and they needed to insert an IV - the nurse heated my arm and the vein made it's presence known. It was the best IV insertion I've ever had.
Recently I asked the technician at Labcorps if they had those pads - they said "Yes, we have plenty but we don't use them."
Go figure.
lark
(26,113 posts)I was 11 and passed out at #7 before they switched to my left hand and got a vein 6 tries later. You should have seen my arms, completely covered in bruises. For some dumb reason they never tried my hand or gave me the pads. I have never seen those, even with my awful veins. I will definitely ask, next time they can't use my hands.
Mossfern
(4,775 posts)slightlv
(7,943 posts)the easiest, because mine kept rolling away. The pain, stress, and nerves got the better of me at one of the attempts, and I threw up all over everyone. That's when they decided to take a break and reassess their strategy... LOL! I detest having blood drawn. When I have to have it done now, I try very hard from the moment I sit down to just "go away" in my head to someplace calm and forget about what's happening in real life. It's helped some, and I seem to get more and more practice with it since being diagnosed with lupus and fibro, and just flat out getting old.
lark
(26,113 posts)It helps! Refusing to let routine blood draws come from my arm and insisting on them using my hand has been the best strategy. Plus, I super hydrate starting the day before any blood draw. Still, I totally hate it!
ShazzieB
(22,880 posts)I have veins that can be hard to find, but I've never heard of that device before. I'm surprised nobody ever been used that on me. I've been through some major vein searching expeditions that were very much not fun, for me OR the phlebotomist.
I've found that one thing that helps me a lot with blood draws is making sure I'm well hydrated. If I'm even a little bit dehydrated, my veins virtually disappear. Ever since I figured that out, things have gone a lot better. Except for one time, when I was in a rehab center recvering from open heart surgery - phlebotomist showed up unexpectedly and I was too out of it to think about the hydration angle. She stuck me over and over in both arms, and I can't remember if she ever got any blood in the end or not (another effect of being somewhat out of it). My doctor came to see me later, took one look at my arms, and just about had a cow. It diid look bad; I was on blood thinners at the time, so my arms were literally covered in purple bruises!
Judging from my doctor's mood, I'm afraid that phlebotomist may have had hell to pay. Which she may have deserved, but she was really nice and apologetic at the time, so I felt kind of bad for her. (Come to think of it, my reaction to the situation was probably also indicative of how out of it I was!)
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Maru Kitteh
(32,010 posts)His inner arms look smooth and theres a little bruise on that right hand. Hes very fluffy. I wonder if they didnt have to ultrasound him to get an arterial draw or set a 16 gauge sometime leading him to forbid that route going forward. Its the exact sort of very stupid thing he would do.
ms liberty
(11,364 posts)He may be fluffy, but I'll bet his veins aren't.
cksmithy
(519 posts)but the veins in my hands have always blown out, my arm/elbow ac veins work just fine. I have had several surgeries and procedures where I need an IV. If I need an IV, i always tell the RN it won't work I my hand, they don't believe me, say "Oh my, your vein has blown out," Then they move to the ac veins. I think he is getting supplements/fluids,etc., because he is so unwell.
misanthrope
(9,627 posts)They are typically a much easier stick. There are others on the posterior forearm that are next easiest before you get to the back of the hand.
Unless your veins suck and are shot.
FarPoint
(14,939 posts)If concealing IV access was a goal...they can place an implanted port in his upper chest.... Simple deduction for me...
Maru Kitteh
(32,010 posts)medium to long term health need requiring repeated vascular access like chemo or dialysis or some other infusion therapy. With his legs all gone to shit I could see cellulitis or even osteomyelitis needing a long course of IV ABX. Hes probably colonized everywhere due to a lifetime of really poor antibiotic compliance . He doesnt read anything or follow instructions. You know hes the kind that starts and stops and takes how ever many pills he decides is correct because he knows better.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Please think of your readers, ALWAYS.
Klarkashton
(5,418 posts)He is in waaaaay over his head with all of this and he's getting bad advice from all those terrible right wing goobers that are never correct about anything.
milestogo
(23,200 posts)
that's the first thing I thought of when I saw his hands
mwmisses4289
(4,719 posts)failing health. Unlike idgit, who is probably very, very ill, and pretending he isn't.
The Madcap
(2,031 posts)LPBBEAR
(683 posts)hands looked very similar. The result of blood thinners and other meds she was on. She came back from 3 strokes. COPD finally took her. She had quit smoking many years prior to her passing but the damage was done from her many early years of smoking.
I'm starting to wonder whether Trump is on some extreme medication. Something that has hyper activity as a side effect. He has always been evil but the last few months he has been the energizer bunny of evil moronic ideas.
Whatever he has I'm hoping it takes his worthless ass soon. The sooner he dies the fewer Americans will die.
area51
(12,753 posts)SheilaAnn
(10,779 posts)Bread and Circuses
(2,121 posts)milestogo
(23,200 posts)She lived a good life.
buzzycrumbhunger
(2,156 posts)Please, please, PLEASE let it be fast!
Note I saw a post by a nurse who discussed all this and gives him 6-8 months, tops. Sadly, weve seen how much damage he can do in that amount of time
Deminpenn
(17,580 posts)It's common in the very elderly, 85+, to have very thin skin and to bruise easily.
bif
(27,227 posts)Midnight Writer
(25,740 posts)Raven123
(7,896 posts)yorkster
(3,951 posts)Karasu
(2,066 posts)newdeal2
(5,601 posts)Pray it away.
Dem2theMax
(11,005 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 26, 2025, 08:11 PM - Edit history (1)
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Did he fall? Did he almost-fall? (I'm very much looking forward to seeing him with a black eye from falling in the bathroom! Whether it's from hitting a glass shower door or plunging headlong into a gilded toilet... his bruising makes me happy!)
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Rebl2
(17,927 posts)is not. It looks like bruising from where an IV was. Have had the same type bruising from IV on top of my hand years ago. Also his hand looks swollen.
hatrack
(65,145 posts)Oh well . . . .
paulkienitz
(1,514 posts)genxlib
(6,159 posts)Dang it. You beat me to it.
twodogsbarking
(19,339 posts)They are having trouble finding someone with a very small hand.
Maru Kitteh
(32,010 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,586 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,742 posts)The Roux Comes First
(2,321 posts)I find it amazing he went out in public like this.
keep_left
(3,223 posts)...before, but that's like something from a sci-fi movie. It looks like there's a lot of white scaly stuff on top of the bruising. That's why I wonder if someone got a little bit creative with this photo.
blogslug
(39,219 posts)keep_left
(3,223 posts)...is an optical illusion, perhaps caused by light from a flash or whatever. The Getty Images photo is a pretty nasty bruise, though! It looks like it's spread across the entire hand. I wonder if Trump is taking blood thinners.
Miles Archer
(24,323 posts)I'm too lazy to look it up again, but I just saw it on Twitter a few minutes ago. The MAGAts are responding in droves, saying it's "AI" and "Trump Derangement Syndrome." So someone asked GROK and for whatever it's worth it confirmed that they are legit photos from Getty Images.
mercuryblues
(16,515 posts)When you are sick, your veins tend to give out easily. When I was being prepped for my transplant, the protocol is to insert a central line/catheter.
I literally still have a faint bruise on my arm when a nurse tried to draw blood and blew the vein for a routine checkup, from 2 years ago.
The back of my hand looked like hell on and off for a few years.
ChazInAz
(3,032 posts)Hidden somewhere is a portrait of him that's getting gradually younger and healthier looking as he decomposes.
ultralite001
(2,673 posts)would have done such an excellent story w/ this...
RIP, MAD... You've been missed...
ChazInAz
(3,032 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,943 posts)... sleeping with an IV? He used to wear black gloves when the hands looked bad... maybe he was advised it would cause some skin problems? I think we can feel okay knowing he's getting great care from Dr. Oz, RFJr, and Ronnie!
Ocelot II
(131,224 posts)tanyev
(49,679 posts)Grammy23
(6,131 posts)Adding to the growing list. Stubby or Stubs (for his short, vulgarian fingers.)
calimary
(90,775 posts)That looks pretty troublesome.
CentralMass
(16,994 posts)Wednesdays
(23,125 posts)Godot51
(832 posts)I'm not in any medical field, I have no expertise in that area. So I'm speaking in ignorance.
My father and his family were susceptible to bruising on their hands and forearms. I inherited this and it has been exacerbated by medications taken for various, old age disorders.
The smallest bump can bring on a purplish bruise that lingers. If rubbed it spreads.
Having said that, my own bruises look nothing like these. I do nothing to cover them, neither my doctor nor my pharmacist worry about them, though they do make me slightly self-conscious. I've heard several people who take an aspirin daily for their circulation comment on similar problems.
trump is five years older than me. He certainly looks unhealthy, physically, and acts unhealthily mentally. I worry more about his obviously poor intelligence, his inability to cognate, and his inability to make good decisions than any physical problems.
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Everyone would be cashing in on that shit.
Probably more likely makeup, covering up where he recently had an IV. He looked fluid overloaded the other day. Wonder what they pumped him full of, and why
proud patriot
(102,568 posts)at the white house
peggysue2
(12,595 posts)After frequent infusions during his cancer treatments. For my father-in-law it was to combat extreme dehydration; he just wasn't able to drink enough water to keep up with the chemo side effects.
If the stories are credible about Trump and congestive heart disease it could be infusions for that or if he's having liver failure. A lot of speculation out there that he's now catheterized. Lot of speculation everywhere, but the man obviously is not well and his mental deterioration is getting worse by the day.
He looks terrible and is having difficulty walking. And, of course, he makes little to no sense.
The Mad King is in decline.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,438 posts)It explains his concerns about being admitted into Heaven. St Peter don't take kindly to liars and thieves. Let alone those entrusted with the public good.
BidenRocks
(3,488 posts)Give him the Kashoggi!
paleotn
(22,733 posts)The bruising and scares aren't as problematic as his swollen hands. He's retaining massive amounts of fluid and not just in his lower extremities apparently. One very sick puppy in so many ways.
Paging Death. Mr. Death, please report to the White House. Mr. Death. Please report to the White House.
Blue Full Moon
(3,650 posts)And stumbled up the stairs of Air Force One.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,503 posts)Timewas
(2,776 posts)I am 83, taking blood thinners and that bruise can show up any time from very little contact against anything, I may not even feel it... Not gonna get my hopes up that this is anything more than that
global1
(26,507 posts)What was the cause of the blacking of the back of his hand? I don't recall how that was resolved.
Henry203
(964 posts)Imagine his face as they take him to hell.
The Wizard
(13,856 posts)looking like this after he reportedly "fell."
William Seger
(12,529 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:57 PM - Edit history (1)
...from something as simple as reaching into a tight drawer. It's a bruise just under the surface of the skin because it has become very thin. I don't know how common it is with other seniors.
EDIT: I should add that I've never gotten a bruise like that from shaking hands, and doubt that I could -- I think it's almost always from scraping across a sharp corner -- so I'm pretty sure that's not the explanation.
Captain Zero
(8,952 posts)He's got a major auto-immune disorder??
There are lots of infusions for that.
What else uses infusions??
pansypoo53219
(23,169 posts)yeah old death cause. heart disease.
alittlelark
(19,143 posts)The hand too.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,742 posts)From The Ashes
(2,740 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Trueblue Texan
(4,611 posts)but why would they use his hand? Why not inside his elbow where it's easier to hide? Is he trying to hide something else that might be revealed if he rolls up his sleeve? Also it looks scaly like psoriasis...
Emile
(43,260 posts)NowsTheTime
(1,336 posts)NNadir
(38,538 posts)mercuryblues
(16,515 posts)Biglinda 52
(130 posts)He's got a great vein in which an IV can be started. If we could magnify, wonder if the needle hole is still there.
Martin68
(28,064 posts)Torchlight
(7,056 posts)Anything to cover for his deterioration, no matter how outlandish or benign, will work as intended.
vapor2
(4,913 posts)recall when she said 47 doesn't grift? Outright lies by all of them
Blue Full Moon
(3,650 posts)Vance and the other Guardians of Pedophiles over their cover-up of Trump's health and mental illness.
Lucky Luciano
(11,875 posts)ultralite001
(2,673 posts)It could happen...
Joinfortmill
(21,668 posts)
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