Does anyone else think the National Guardsmen in D.C. should be refusing illegal orders?

[William Seger]

Given the obvious legal restrictions against acting as police, what rules of engagement are they being given?

[LaRaven]

1. YUP!

They aren’t upholding their Oath to the Constitution and against the true domestic enemies!

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. So far not a single guardsperson or military person or republican politician

Has done one goddamn thing, or said one goddamn thing. No active leaders in the military are saying a single thing, only retired.

It’s going to happen so quickly and almost none of them will resist following those orders.

[LonePirate]

5. Most of them probably don't think the orders are illegal. That might change if ordered to start shooting people.

[msongs]

9. they not gonna be affected by this (except they make $$) so just go along nt

[Skittles]

3. I'll say this as a veteran

there is no way in HELL I would have been on my knees in uniform setting up a red carpet for that murderous dictator Putin........no chance in HELL....that was fucking DISGUSTING

[LogDog75]

4. I'm against the troops being in Washington

but as far as troops disobeying an "illegal" order I doubt any of them will disobey their current orders. Unless the courts decide the Orange Turd's orders are illegal the troops will obey the orders. If they don't, then they could face a court martial and lose not only their rank, be put in jail, lose their career, their retirement, and their benefits. It's one thing for non-military people to say the troops shouldn't obey their orders but those civilians are putting their careers on the line.

[William Seger]

8. Yes, but I'd like to see at least one refuse, to force a court decision on it (nt)

[msongs]

10. careers vs preventing death camps. which one should they choose. poooooor them nt

[RockRaven]

6. Every single fucking one is going to "just follow orders" and do everything they are told to do.

Of course they SHOULD do otherwise, but they won't.

Nobody is coming to save us. Don't expect heroes.

[Melon]

7. This is what they risk

“If a soldier refuses an order they believe to be unlawful, but it is later determined to be lawful, they face severe consequences, including court-martial, imprisonment, a bad conduct discharge, forfeiture of pay, and a negative impact on their career and reputation. While there are defenses for disobeying clearly unlawful orders, disobeying a lawful order is a serious military offense, and the burden is on the service member to demonstrate the order was unlawful. “

As far as I have heard it’s considered lawful. DC doesn’t have a governor, so the guard reports to the president. Unless a lawful ruling comes down stopping it, I think a troop would just lose everything. You can’t expect a soldier to take that action.