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STFU White House - Praying does not work (Original Post) malaise Aug 2025 OP
Let's pray Duncanpup Aug 2025 #1
The mayor nailed it malaise Aug 2025 #13
Maybe god can't even save children praying in church, because... Omnipresent Aug 2025 #29
I'm not a believer, but if there is a God it is clear Dustlawyer Aug 2025 #58
Yah think? malaise Aug 2025 #59
A Haitian voodoo.. MarcoZandrini Aug 2025 #34
Amen, Duncanpup! HeartsCanHope Aug 2025 #48
If it did Donvict would be dead. mobeau69 Aug 2025 #2
You win the thread malaise Aug 2025 #4
If prayers worked, Trump would have been called home to Satan a long time ago. Ocelot II Aug 2025 #3
Every other Wednesday. BidenRocks Aug 2025 #22
There are vibes, and then there are vibes BoRaGard Aug 2025 #5
American Gubmint is going to "do something about the guns" maxsolomon Aug 2025 #6
I would say there's no excuse or reason for those high capacity magazines Walleye Aug 2025 #21
Exactly, my husband has always said set limits on bullets. I totally agree. HeartsCanHope Aug 2025 #49
Well, the right wingers always said more prayer inschools would help. This happened at a Catholic school Walleye Aug 2025 #7
It actually happened in church during the weekly Mass held for the school dflprincess Aug 2025 #14
Really, it's just sickening every time they say something like that Walleye Aug 2025 #16
To them, it's a polite way of saying "We don't give a fuck." Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2025 #26
I got an idea onethatcares Aug 2025 #8
And prohibit having windows in schools and churches. Walleye Aug 2025 #17
All guns should be replaced with scary ham sandwiches. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #9
Don pretends that he prays. Mblaze Aug 2025 #10
Who shall he blame. Obama. Biden. Taylor Swift. Melaaaaaniaaaah said I don't care, in five languages. twodogsbarking Aug 2025 #11
Bumper sticker Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #12
A couple of good bumper stickers there! Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2025 #28
...and it happened in a religious school -- where praying is routine. n/t LeftinOH Aug 2025 #15
Donald doesn't pray; he preys Martin Eden Aug 2025 #18
With the blessing of the Supreme Court chief justice, roberts. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #36
Exactly! 3catwoman3 Aug 2025 #45
They were actually PRAYING. underpants Aug 2025 #19
He's gonna use this as an excuse to send the NG GusBob Aug 2025 #20
It does not! dlilafae Aug 2025 #23
Walking distance from my house. mn9driver Aug 2025 #24
Horrific malaise Aug 2025 #35
THIS 100%+. The importance of empirical evidence: Heidi Aug 2025 #25
They WERE praying Wisky64 Aug 2025 #27
There was also a shooting at a Christian school in Madison WI milestogo Aug 2025 #32
My prayer is that MsLeopard Aug 2025 #30
Bang Bang Bang MrWowWow Aug 2025 #31
Proof that posting ten commandments, or 15, or 20, will not deter or prevent things from happening. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 2025 #33
It is the guns end of story. Botany Aug 2025 #37
prayer makes people feel better about doing nothing Skittles Aug 2025 #38
Every country in the world has trans people, mentally unstable people and angry people. surfered Aug 2025 #39
If praying worked, I suspect a certain politician would be dead by now.... Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #40
Depends on what you want it to do Warpy Aug 2025 #41
I find Monty Python jokes helpful sometimes BootinUp Aug 2025 #42
K&R red dog 1 Aug 2025 #43
The sickest, most depraved administration ever... spanone Aug 2025 #44
Prayer is between your God and you. Xolodno Aug 2025 #46
"Thoughts and prayers" are just a cynic's way of saying . . . Aussie105 Aug 2025 #47
As a friend says malaise Aug 2025 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Aug 2025 #51
ironic that they offer "thoughts and prayers" to a catholic school. Javaman Aug 2025 #52
"Praying" strikes me as a meaningless act that accomplishes nothing. mwb970 Aug 2025 #53
I watched a priest on one of the programs malaise Aug 2025 #54
If they would call it "meditating", I would have no problem. mwb970 Aug 2025 #55
'thoughts and prayers' are their only crutch. Without it Torchlight Aug 2025 #56
Don't forget the malaise Aug 2025 #57
There is one solution to the gun problem bagimin Aug 2025 #60

malaise

(296,110 posts)
13. The mayor nailed it
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:23 PM
Aug 2025

I don’t want to hear about thoughts and prayers
These kids were literally praying as they were gunned down.
Well said.
Two kids are dead, seven critical and ten other folks are injured.

Add link
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN3XUgZQiPn/

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
58. I'm not a believer, but if there is a God it is clear
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 10:27 AM
Aug 2025

by now he/she expects us to take care of this ourselves.

maxsolomon

(38,728 posts)
6. American Gubmint is going to "do something about the guns"
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:50 AM
Aug 2025

Like it's going to do something about Anthropogenic Climate Change.

As long as Repukes hold any power it will never happen, and they currently hold all the power.

The 2nd Amendment is a curse.

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
21. I would say there's no excuse or reason for those high capacity magazines
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:46 PM
Aug 2025

Especially on those powerful rifles. The wounded will have life-changing injuries no doubt.

HeartsCanHope

(1,680 posts)
49. Exactly, my husband has always said set limits on bullets. I totally agree.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 02:57 AM
Aug 2025

No one needs high capacity magazines for home or personal defense.

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
7. Well, the right wingers always said more prayer inschools would help. This happened at a Catholic school
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:50 AM
Aug 2025

They pray they all the time. So it doesn’t help. But at least they put the old cracker back in the Cracker Barrel logo. “Christians” will be happy about that

dflprincess

(29,341 posts)
14. It actually happened in church during the weekly Mass held for the school
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:26 PM
Aug 2025

So much for thoughts and prayers.

onethatcares

(16,992 posts)
8. I got an idea
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:01 PM
Aug 2025

and I'm gonna email my senator with it.

Why don't we have a call to prayer 5 times a day and get pre=active on this shit?

surely the lizard will agree...........

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
17. And prohibit having windows in schools and churches.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:37 PM
Aug 2025

The shooter shot through the window. So they will deal with the windows, not the guns. I don’t know why it should be so hard to prohibit high capacity magazines

Mblaze

(1,039 posts)
10. Don pretends that he prays.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:10 PM
Aug 2025

Actually he might occasionally toss out a "get me out of these charges" wish.

twodogsbarking

(18,785 posts)
11. Who shall he blame. Obama. Biden. Taylor Swift. Melaaaaaniaaaah said I don't care, in five languages.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:16 PM
Aug 2025

Martin Eden

(15,628 posts)
18. Donald doesn't pray; he preys
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:39 PM
Aug 2025

The most un-christian POtuS ever to dishonor the White House.

underpants

(196,495 posts)
19. They were actually PRAYING.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:40 PM
Aug 2025

Statement on NPR "enough with the thoughts and prayers, these children were actually praying.. "

I think that was from someone at the children’s hospital

dlilafae

(445 posts)
23. It does not!
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:53 PM
Aug 2025

Tried praying for the grifting ignoramus to meet his season of justice. ~ Nothing! ~ Stupid Americans made him POTUS.





mn9driver

(4,848 posts)
24. Walking distance from my house.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:01 PM
Aug 2025

That orange fucker better not show up here. It won’t be the photo op he’s looking for.

Heidi

(58,846 posts)
25. THIS 100%+. The importance of empirical evidence:
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:03 PM
Aug 2025

After ~250 years of people praying for this nation has yielded no predictable, repeatable result, maybe prayer is just a comfy story we tell ourselves.

Wisky64

(9 posts)
27. They WERE praying
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:07 PM
Aug 2025

These students and staff WERE literally praying when they were shot. It’s a Catholic K -8 school. They start each school day with a morning mass. They were literally praying at the time they were shot.

I’m beginning to think thoughts and prayers are not the answer.

milestogo

(23,084 posts)
32. There was also a shooting at a Christian school in Madison WI
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:15 PM
Aug 2025

not so long ago. It happened in the library.

Unfortunately its happening everywhere.

MsLeopard

(1,305 posts)
30. My prayer is that
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:13 PM
Aug 2025

One day a mass shooter will go into a Board of Directors meeting, or Davos, or a Berkshire Hathaway meeting, or an Koch brothers event, and shoot up a bunch rich white men, the richer the better.

When that happens, guns will be off the street the next effing day.

Our country is such a joke. Absolutely sickening! This is what the end of empire looks like. 🤬. And we deserve it, we are a failed state.

So sick of this 💩!!!

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,037 posts)
33. Proof that posting ten commandments, or 15, or 20, will not deter or prevent things from happening.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:17 PM
Aug 2025

If they won't work with churches, why stick them anywhere else?

Botany

(77,323 posts)
37. It is the guns end of story.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:03 PM
Aug 2025

After WW II Japan got rid of guns and guess what happened? They have almost no
deaths by guns.

How many mass shootings have we had in 2025?

Btw we have had 38 mass shootings in America since August 1st. A mass shooting
is when 4 or more people not counting the gun man or gun woman wounded or killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2025

surfered

(13,465 posts)
39. Every country in the world has trans people, mentally unstable people and angry people.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 10:08 PM
Aug 2025

But the US is the only country in the world with this mass shooting problem. The only difference, is the access to guns in the US.



Warpy

(114,615 posts)
41. Depends on what you want it to do
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:06 PM
Aug 2025

If you're a believer and you want to center yourself and do some really mild meditation, then it works just fine.

Otherwise, it's the worst sort of slactiivism on its best day.

That's probably a good thing, consider how many people pray for the opposiite thing their neighbor does, from fixing high school football games to calling down divine smiting of enemies, especially imaginary ones.

Doesn't matter if it's Sufi dancing, Buddhist hanting, Hasidic singing, thumbing your beads, or just on your knees and mumbling for an hour before bed, it can have a profound effect on your own psyche. Just don't expect it to go any farther than that.

Especially don't expect it to do jack shit about the carnage in the US that is coming from too many fucking guns in civilian hands.

BootinUp

(51,323 posts)
42. I find Monty Python jokes helpful sometimes
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:10 PM
Aug 2025

“Good evening. Tonight on ‘Is There?’ we examine the question, ‘Is there a life after death?’ And here to discuss it are three dead people.”

https://inews.co.uk/light-relief/jokes/funniest-monty-python-quotes-136980

Xolodno

(7,350 posts)
46. Prayer is between your God and you.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 02:05 AM
Aug 2025

And it doesn't mean he will acquiesce to what you want, only takes it under consideration.

We we're all happy and naked in the Garden of Eden, then we chose to make our own future. He obliged. Unfortunately, there are too many bad people out there and too many who enable them.

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
47. "Thoughts and prayers" are just a cynic's way of saying . . .
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 02:32 AM
Aug 2025

I don't really care. (Fake concern. Apathy)
And if I did, I call on a higher power to do something (Abrogating responsibility)

People who use Tots & Pears as a response really need to be called out at every opportunity.

Questions like . . . OK, looks like God is busy, what are you going to do about it in the meantime?
(Handballing responsibility back to the cynics.)

Other countries have effectively cut down on death-by-gun incidents, so why not America?

Response to malaise (Original post)

Javaman

(65,711 posts)
52. ironic that they offer "thoughts and prayers" to a catholic school.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:47 AM
Aug 2025

I would think they would have that already covered.

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
53. "Praying" strikes me as a meaningless act that accomplishes nothing.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:00 AM
Aug 2025

Is the idea that they are communicating via mental telepathy with an invisible, undetectable, all-powerful being of some kind? Are the people praying to tell this "god" creature what to do? What is its response? Does any of this makes sense?

As a great philosopher once said, you cannot petition the Lord with prayer. Believe it.

malaise

(296,110 posts)
54. I watched a priest on one of the programs
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:19 AM
Aug 2025

His explanation was tortuous and illogical.

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
55. If they would call it "meditating", I would have no problem.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:26 AM
Aug 2025

It's when they add the part about actually communicating with an imaginary supernatural being, including telling this being what they would like it to do for them and expecting it to be done, that it sounds stupid and irrational to me.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
56. 'thoughts and prayers' are their only crutch. Without it
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:35 AM
Aug 2025

they’ll have nothing to say after the next tragedy. That is their only response. The only one. Every time. Sure, it comes in a billion variations, but it’s always the same: thoughts and prayers.

Their loyal sealions will offer weak follow-ups (‘we can’t stop it from happening,’ ‘may as well arm yourself,’ ‘isn’t it just like buying car insurance?’), but without the anchor of ‘thoughts and prayers,’ these meritless monotone monologues collapse into flaccid and ineffectual emptiness.

bagimin

(1,703 posts)
60. There is one solution to the gun problem
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 11:35 AM
Aug 2025

and Australia did it with success. Is Australia better than the U.S.? Yes, yes they are .

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