Place your bets on the Minneapolis shooter

[Aviation Pro]

White, 20s, an unhealthy fascination with firearms, incel and MAGA full-throated or adjacent.

[spooky3]

1. And male nt

[Aviation Pro]

3. Incel kind of implies that

But true.

[EdmondDantes_]

45. Ironically yes

The first person to use the word, to describe themselves, was a woman. Sas that it turned into being for a bunch of hateful guys.

[Jose Garcia]

48. Apparently not

[MineralMan]

2. No, thanks! It's not a game.

We'll find out soon enough who the shooter was. Guessing is just game-playing. Kids are dead.

[nitro_dem]

4. Unfortunately a trans person...

Ugh.

[obamanut2012]

6. First post, eh?

Welcome to DU

[Permanut]

52. TY

[nitro_dem]

57. Sucks to be correct, but...

Thanks

[Aviation Pro]

7. Where is that being reported?

Trust no news source.

[LeftInTX]

13. Times of India

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/who-was-robin-westman-linked-with-minneapolis-shooting-maga-claims-his-gun-magazine-had-kill-donald-trump-written-on-it/articleshow/123549427.cms

[Aviation Pro]

18. Yeah, not buying that shit

MAGA handles.

[MineralMan]

19. Quit While You're Behind....

[sboatcar]

26. From local media

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/shooter-identified-in-minneapolis-catholic-school-shooting/89-bafd06bc-fafe-4187-ae44-64ed0b2fd138

[choie]

34. They media had to translate the manifestp

from Russian to English?

"KARE 11 was able to translate parts of the alleged manifesto from Russian to English, in which it appeared the author referenced suicide, school shootings and shooters, and the Annunciation Church."

[Renew Deal]

44. They used russian letters to substitute english letters

They did not use russian words. It's just the alphabet.

[obamanut2012]

16. There was a trans sticker on a gun magazine

And the shooter changed their name from Robbin to Robert and had long hair.

That's it.

Westman may be MtF, may not be. But the videos showing up show they had a HUGE love for mass shooters, hated "pedos," and were anti-semitic. And totally mentally ill.

Nut this noob rushed right here to amke an account and say Westman was trans.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. Get your facts straight before making accusations

The first time poster registered in 2008.

Nut this noob rushed right here to amke an account

[obamanut2012]

22. It was their FIRST post

I don't care when they registered. That actually makes it much worse.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Yes you did care, bc you made a big point about it, adding bite with "rush"

Nut this noob rushed right here to amke an account

[reACTIONary]

30. I don't think the poster is dissing trans people.....

... I think the intent is to express dismay at what MAGA will do with this. Let's give 'em a chance and see. This might just be a less than artful expression.

[TommyT139]

35. Yep, that was my reading too.

I would have phrased it differently, but I guarantee you, most trans people hearing this today are having the same reaction -- while lamenting the loss of young lives --
"Ugh."

This case will be added to the few others (in a sea of non trans murders) to bolster calls for ending medical care for all trans people, and at the very least, restrictions on access to guns.

[sarisataka]

20. "Trust no news source."

If we are to trust no news source, how will we know if your assumptions are correct?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. It would have made more sense if they had written "Trust no single news source". . . . .nt

[sarisataka]

37. I believe it was more like "Trust no news source...

that disagrees with preconceptions"

[Torchlight]

9. Sounds serious

Good luck

[reACTIONary]

28. I don't think the poster is dissing trans people.....

.... I think the intent is to express dismay at what the MAGA reaction might be. As a new poster, I would hold off on the criticism until there is less ambiguous evidence of evil intent.

[Lulu KC]

62. Meaning?

This could be interpreted a few different ways--would like your clarification.

[sarisataka]

5. If the early rumors are accurate

About two of those assumptions are correct.
Facts about the shooter may make people rather uncomfortably if they turned out to be true.

[Torchlight]

8. White, straight male. Late 20s early 30's Feels slighted by an ex-gf or ex-job

Easy access to firearms. No manifesto, just rage because others have what he doesn't

My guess.

[thatdemguy]

11. Well the things I have seen your right on the firearms but wrong on others

There is a manifesto with pro LGBTQ sticker, looks to be trans based on paperwork requesting to change name due to identifying as a female.

Written on the gun trump must die, where is your god now etc.

[Torchlight]

12. A guess wrong about half the time when I call heads or tails.

[thatdemguy]

14. Exactly when people guess before the actual info comes out they are wrong half the time

[Torchlight]

15. And the taste of mustard didn't change.

[tritsofme]

10. Pretty sick shit right here.

[senseandsensibility]

21. The press keeps using the "their" pronoun

nbcnews.com has that in a current headline. There is also another headline leading to a story saying that the shooter has been identified as Robin Westman. Again, this story uses the their pronoun.

[Prairie Gates]

23. How many times do people have to be embarrassed before they stop posting these threads?

It's like clockwork, really.

[Knaughty]

46. Is this a regular thing here?

nt

[Celerity]

56. Yes. nt

[LiberalArkie]

24. Red head. Definately not an Anglo Saxon. Family history of being an immigrant from Ireland so there fore a IRA Terrorist

[WhiskeyGrinder]

27. grow up

[ForgedCrank]

32. No shit.

[ForgedCrank]

31. This entire

thread is sick.
There are dead kids, most likely dead as a result of hatred.
Oh wait, I have an idea! Let's spread more hate, that should stop it, right?

[jonstl08]

33. Upset at the church

Maybe he was abused by the church and upset with how they handled it.

[Greg_In_SF]

36. Here is the now removed Youtube video

Link to tweet

[maxrandb]

38. I don't give a flying "eff".

Don't care if the shooter is white, African American, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, Jewish, Arab, anti-semitic, Islamaphobe, male, female, trans, straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, celibate, young, middle aged, old, married, single, divorced, rich, poor, middle-class, unemployed, employed, conservative, liberal, progressive, moderate, agnostic, atheist, Christian, introvert, or extrovert.

I just know a few things.

There is only one American political party and political ideology that has done all in their power to ensure America's Mass Shooters are the MOST EASILY AND HEAVILY ARMED mass shooters on the fucking planet.

There is only one American political party and political ideology that whipped thousands of violent supporters into a frenzy to attack the United FUCKING State Capitol and viciously beat police officers...and then didn't even fucking whimper when their titular leader pardoned that violent mob

One fucking party helps ensure violent fucksticks can easily get all the fucking guns they want, whips them into a frenzy, and let's them know that violence will be pardoned as long as they are on the Reich side of politics.

So, go ahead. Have fun trying to put this shooter into some kind of neat little box.

It's a good distraction for who is truly responsible for this carnage.

Maybe we can keep score! Incels 10 - LGBTQ 3.

It's a "fun" game, but it ignores the real problem.

[Greg_In_SF]

39. All three guns

purchased legally.

[Torchlight]

41. Sounds very much like a root of the problem.

[Greg_In_SF]

42. There are

44,000 guns sold in the US every day. Crazy people are the problem, and this person was a nut job. Look up the video he posted on Youtube this morning. Disturbing.

[Patton French]

40. Not self-deleted yet?

NT

[Aviation Pro]

47. No, when I make a mistake

I own up to it because that's what you're supposed to do.

[TheProle]

49. Simply leaving it up isn't "owning up" to anything

Edit your post to say you jumped the gun and were wrong if you want to own up to it.

Otherwise, for people who don't read past the OP, it's as wrong as it ever was.

[Aviation Pro]

50. No

….

[TheProle]

51. It wasn't a command and there was no expectation you would

I'm sure some in your circle find your prickly-ness adorbs.

[Kaleva]

59. Not everybody would do that. Recd

[hardluck]

60. You owned up to it?

Where?

[Aviation Pro]

61. By leaving it up

I don’t need to explain myself.

[NickB79]

43. This post aged poorly

[onenote]

53. Can I still place a bet? How much are you, the OP, willing to put up?

[Ace Rothstein]

58. These types of posts shouldn't be allowed here.

They're a bad look for this site.

[BannonsLiver]

63. My bet is future discussions on this shooting will be, shall we say, quite limited.