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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,729 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:46 PM Aug 2025

Trump's 50% tariffs on India over Russian oil purchases take effect

NEW DELHI (AP) — Steep U.S. tariffs on a range of Indian products took effect Wednesday, threatening a serious blow to India’s overseas trade in its largest export market.

President Donald Trump had initially announced a 25% tariff on Indian goods. But earlier this month he signed an executive order imposing an additional 25% tariff due to India’s purchases of Russian oil, bringing the combined tariffs imposed by the U.S. on its ally to 50%.

The Indian government estimates the tariffs will impact $48.2 billion worth of exports. Officials have warned the new duties could make shipments to the U.S. commercially unviable, triggering job losses and slower economic growth.

India–U.S. trade relations have expanded in recent years but remain vulnerable to disputes over market access and domestic political pressures. India is one of the fastest-growing major global economies and it may face a slowdown as a result.

https://apnews.com/article/india-us-tariff-exports-trade-tension-48ac6d5e172df04832c75d2a57d0a860

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Johonny

(26,182 posts)
1. Dont buy Russian oil or we might make
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:48 PM
Aug 2025

Americans pay a tax . . . Policy by fucking the American consumer class.

newdeal2

(5,417 posts)
2. If they comply, oil prices will skyrocket overnight
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:57 PM
Aug 2025

Again, the American public will suffer the most.

AZJonnie

(3,706 posts)
3. I'm not saying you're wrong as I don't know, but what are you suggesting the mechanism in play
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:00 PM
Aug 2025

would be e.g. I'm not sure I follow the cause/effect there?

Melon

(1,525 posts)
6. Why? Why would oil prices skyrocket over night?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:15 PM
Aug 2025

Russia has limited outlets for Oil right now. They are selling at a 30%+ discount primarily to China, India, and Turkey. India is consuming the oil but moreover washing it through their tanks and selling it back into the market where it goes to EU.b You are talking a ~2.5MM barrel reduction a day. OPEC has cut over 5MM barrels a day in reduction to support oil pricing in 2025. They could easily increase production by 2.5MM.

Oil is oversupplied right now. This is why OPEC cuts are not causing oil to skyrocket. India buying the oil is funding the Russian war. I'm not sure why we would support that. Without oil revenue, Russia's war machine will collapse.

India is also repackaging Russian Chemicals and re-selling those into the market. India is showing loyalty only to money and to itself.

Russian oil is also helping to fuel trade imbalances that are causing the issues leading to tariffs. Both India and China should have a hard time competing with any Chemistry that is Ethylene based. Plastics like polyethylene etc should also be advantaged to the US, but those buying Russian oil are buying at a large discount. That product is flooding markets at low prices as China tries to keep its factories running and people employed.

Cutting Russia off from Oil funds supports Ukraine and needs to happen. I am not a fan of all the tariffs, but if any of them can make sense it is this one.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
12. Agree 100%
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:33 PM
Aug 2025

I'm not a fan of tariffs either, but I have zero issue with doing this in order to cut off money from Russia.

AZJonnie

(3,706 posts)
4. Of course AP is not going to mention that's exactly what this amounts to
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:07 PM
Aug 2025

at least, not at the top of the article (I didn't read the rest). Instead they present it in as hazy (and regime-friendly) a way as possible and make it sound like India will be the only one's suffering by it i.e. this "Officials have warned the new duties could make shipments to the U.S. commercially unviable, triggering job losses and slower economic growth."

That's how AP (and Reuters) roll these days. Every time.

crimycarny

(2,090 posts)
5. Where.Is.Congress?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:12 PM
Aug 2025

Why why why is Congress letting Trump get away with this??? These tariffs are illegal, and we aren't even hearing Dems talk about fighting this anymore (unless I'm missing something). It's like everyone shrugs their shoulders and gives up. I understand that the Democrats are in the minority, but they should still be shouting nonstop about these tariffs being illegal. These tariffs are going to hit hard very soon, and the Democratic party should at least be on record of fighting against them--relentlessly.

Trump's Presidency has revealed that all these "checks and balances" we thought we had were an illusion. If a ridiculously cartoonish (combover/orange skin) con man with an IQ of a turnip can bowl over our entire government like this, we're a joke of a country.

AZJonnie

(3,706 posts)
7. I'm guessing this is the real reason for this move, Russian oil is just a convenient proxy
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:24 PM
Aug 2025
The tariffs come as the U.S. administration continues to push for greater access to India’s agriculture and dairy sectors.

India and the U.S. have held five rounds of negotiations for a bilateral trade agreement, but have yet to reach a deal. That’s largely because New Delhi has resisted opening these sectors to cheaper American imports, citing concerns that doing so would endanger the jobs of millions of Indians.


I have to say find it a little surprising that US products from either of those sectors can be brought all the way over to India and still be 'cheaper' than the same items being produced in India. I could see the US having some products that nobody produces in India, however, and maybe some of them could prove more popular than what they do have available and/or be of higher quality. Thinking that's probably the real concern.

Even I have to admit there is a certain unfairness about other countries refusing to open their markets to US products if we're not doing the same back to them.

Of course, IQ47's motivation is really only the exercise of power, not any genuine concern for the jobs of US workers.

AZJonnie

(3,706 posts)
9. Do you have some reason to think we are not offering to sell India oil?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:11 PM
Aug 2025

I would assume that part of the reason they're leveling the tariffs on these particular grounds would be exactly that. They just don't want to say that part out loud because it's pretty damn thuggish (and possibly against international law?)

However I would think that oil from the Middle East would be less expensive as it's less than 1/2 the distance away from India. And that's from Long Beach, not from Texas or SD. Those are probably close to 3X the distance.

EX500rider

(12,583 posts)
10. Because India can get Russian oil at a 30+% discount so they don't want US oil (or Middle East etc)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:28 PM
Aug 2025

Melon

(1,525 posts)
11. Exactly this....India is not following the embargo and supporting Russia war machine for profit
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:30 PM
Aug 2025

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
13. The Nobel Prize and a Testy Phone Call: How the Trump-Modi Relationship Unraveled (gift link)
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 11:22 AM
Aug 2025

President Trump’s repeated claims about having “solved” the India-Pakistan war infuriated Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India. And that was only the beginning.




https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/30/us/politics/trump-modi-india.html?unlocked_article_code=1.iE8.ZUkL.sALtHdC3aNm1&smid=url-share

Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India was losing patience with President Trump.

Mr. Trump had been saying — repeatedly, publicly, exuberantly — that he had “solved” the military conflict between India and Pakistan, a dispute that dates back more than 75 years and is far deeper and more complicated than Mr. Trump was making it out to be.

During a phone call on June 17, Mr. Trump brought it up again, saying how proud he was of ending the military escalation. He mentioned that Pakistan was going to nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize, an honor for which he had been openly campaigning. The not-so-subtle implication, according to people familiar with the call, was that Mr. Modi should do the same.

The Indian leader bristled. He told Mr. Trump that U.S. involvement had nothing to do with the recent cease-fire. It had been settled directly between India and Pakistan.....

Just weeks after the June phone call, and with trade talks dragging on, Mr. Trump startled India by announcing that imports from the country would be subjected to a tariff of 25 percent. And on Wednesday, he slapped India with an additional 25 percent tariff for buying Russian oil, adding up to a crushing 50 percent.

Mr. Modi, who once called Mr. Trump “a true friend,” was officially on the outs. After telling Mr. Modi that he would travel to India later this year for the Quad summit, Mr. Trump no longer has plans to visit in the fall, according to people familiar with the president’s schedule......

“I won’t get a Nobel Peace Prize for this, I won’t get a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping the War between India and Pakistan,” Mr. Trump posted. “No, I won’t get a Nobel Peace Prize no matter what I do.”

trump's desire for a Nobel Peace Prize is sad and has hurt our relations with India. Modi is attending a conference in China right
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