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senseandsensibility

(25,378 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:22 PM Aug 2025

Heartbreaking words just now from a fifth grade survivor

He said that they practice shooting drills every month, but never in the church. "It was way different", he said. His friend was shot in the back and is in the hospital. Asked if he would like to say something to his friend, he said he was praying for him. He also said that he got gun powder on his neck, and that his friend Victor saved him by laying on top of him.

I have conducted those shooting drills with children even younger than this young man. I've always wondered how it affected them emotionally. Of course they are necessary, but as this young man said so simply, the realty is very different. I will pray for him and all the victims, but speaking for myself, I want more than prayer.

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Heartbreaking words just now from a fifth grade survivor (Original Post) senseandsensibility Aug 2025 OP
Nothing will get done about these mass murders of innocents. Nothing. It's a plague on us because..guns. Deuxcents Aug 2025 #1
When a bunch of cute little white kids were slaughtered Pinback Aug 2025 #25
Sandy Hook was the canary in the coal mine. North Coast Lawyer Aug 2025 #29
I can't argue with that senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #2
This is the world Putin/Trump/MAGA wants. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #3
It's almost the Star Trek episode Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #7
Rather bizarre isn't it? PatSeg Aug 2025 #11
They've never ceen one close up. soldierant Aug 2025 #31
Imagine people having a life goal to be evil. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #24
The boy finally said he was in shock. Boomerproud Aug 2025 #4
They also made a big deal about trump calling Tim Walz senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #5
Right, no true sympathy from trump. DrMJG10 Aug 2025 #35
Freaking reporters. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #6
Exactly! crimycarny Aug 2025 #8
"Which question will make this person cry, or get angry, or whatever manipulation I am trying to pull?" OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #9
Vultures, but less empathy n/t MerryBlooms Aug 2025 #20
I've been watching KARE11 Live since noon ET (they are 2-3 hrs behind my time) ReRe Aug 2025 #10
Minneapolis is one hour behind eastern time. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #12
Thanks for clearing that up. Could have sworn it was at least 2. Of course I'm often wrong, as each day passes now.;-) ReRe Aug 2025 #19
Obvious questions senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #14
This is a problem created wholly and solely by humans Torchlight Aug 2025 #13
Wise words senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #15
Prayer is useful in diverting responsibility to a God who is clearly ... BurnDoubt Aug 2025 #37
Do Republican officials have active shooter drills where they work? IcyPeas Aug 2025 #16
Constitutional Amendment... oysterpoint Aug 2025 #17
Welcome to DU senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #18
The repugs are a "pro-life" death cult - Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #21
Guns & sexual predators get more protection than American children Attilatheblond Aug 2025 #22
We don't need to have kids suffering from PTSD. patphil Aug 2025 #23
But they are suffering PTSD, and many will suffer from it all their lives... slightlv Aug 2025 #33
NRA is AWOL BoRaGard Aug 2025 #26
Yes, I'm old enough to remember when senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #28
How About Bullet-Proof Stained Glass Windows? MrWowWow Aug 2025 #27
Video of his interview from MSNBC: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2025 #30
Because Nothing Gets Done Is Why They Keep Happening DallasNE Aug 2025 #32
Goddamn FiveFifteen Aug 2025 #34
What we are doing isn't working but we've always done it this way. It won't change. twodogsbarking Aug 2025 #36

Deuxcents

(27,469 posts)
1. Nothing will get done about these mass murders of innocents. Nothing. It's a plague on us because..guns.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:30 PM
Aug 2025

Too precious to control them and/or the ammunition. They will put more guards, walls, cameras, you name it but the bottom line is the guns..military style, rapid shooting rifles and handguns. ghosting guns..all of em are the problem

Pinback

(13,624 posts)
25. When a bunch of cute little white kids were slaughtered
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:41 PM
Aug 2025

right before Christmas and the only response was “thoughts and prayers,” we all knew this was the new America.

The only thing that might change the gun lobby’s death-grip on the nation’s laws would be publishing photos of children turned to pulp by gunfire, similar to the effect of Emmett Till’s open-casket funeral.

It would be horrifying, particularly for the victims’ families and friends, and even that might not work in a nation with so many people who want to believe whatever they’re told by rightwing media (“crisis actors,” “fake news,” etc. ad nauseam).

North Coast Lawyer

(260 posts)
29. Sandy Hook was the canary in the coal mine.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 08:09 PM
Aug 2025

When so many children were slaughtered right before Christmas and nothing changed it was a signal that America's heart had lithified and it's soul evaporated.

Irish_Dem

(82,023 posts)
3. This is the world Putin/Trump/MAGA wants.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:38 PM
Aug 2025

A country at war with itself.

A good way for the elite to make money and take power.

Blue Full Moon

(3,590 posts)
7. It's almost the Star Trek episode
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:50 PM
Aug 2025

Republicans say they love Star Trek and then have decided to be every bad guy that was on the show.

PatSeg

(53,355 posts)
11. Rather bizarre isn't it?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:21 PM
Aug 2025

In movies and television everyone knows who the bad guys are, but in real life many republicans cheer on the villains. It appears they really don't know what a moral, principled person looks or sounds like.

soldierant

(9,365 posts)
31. They've never ceen one close up.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 09:04 PM
Aug 2025

Such as in their household, like a parent. Under those circumstances, recognizing one when they see one is almost certainly not intuitive.

Boomerproud

(9,336 posts)
4. The boy finally said he was in shock.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:39 PM
Aug 2025

The reporter kept asking him stupid questions like How did your mom's hug feel? Of course then they make a big deal about djt lowering the flag at the WH to half staff. He is the center to EVERY story!

senseandsensibility

(25,378 posts)
5. They also made a big deal about trump calling Tim Walz
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:42 PM
Aug 2025

and mentioned that he (trump) refused to call the Governor when the Democratic lawmakers were killed a few months ago. But the tone was like see how mature he is being now? Spare me. Thanks for pointing out that he finally said he was in shock. It seemed that way to me, but I missed that part.

DrMJG10

(75 posts)
35. Right, no true sympathy from trump.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:17 PM
Aug 2025

TFG only was thinking how to come across as a person who cares. Sorry, to me it is only a smoke screen.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,392 posts)
6. Freaking reporters.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:45 PM
Aug 2025

They have a collection of 'trigger questions' in their back pocket.

Remember, getting 'raw emotion' means getting clicks.

Disgusting.

crimycarny

(2,097 posts)
8. Exactly!
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:50 PM
Aug 2025

When they are interviewing, they aren't even listening to the answer; their minds are thinking things like:

"What question will sound the most dramatic?"
"What question will make me seem like a "hard-hitting" reporter?"

I can't stand the media today. All about clicks, nothing about actually talking and listening to whoever they are interviewing.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,392 posts)
9. "Which question will make this person cry, or get angry, or whatever manipulation I am trying to pull?"
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:57 PM
Aug 2025

Freaking animals.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
10. I've been watching KARE11 Live since noon ET (they are 2-3 hrs behind my time)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:20 PM
Aug 2025

It's one of the local stations there.

It's amazing how this country just can't get anything right. We have all this knowledge and all this money, but we just can't
put the puzzle pieces in the right place in our mosaic.

Does anyone know if the FBI or the NSA, for God's sake, is on this issue? There seems to be "cells" of individuals who talk about doing this online. This could have been headed off. And how did the kid get all those deadly weapons????

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
19. Thanks for clearing that up. Could have sworn it was at least 2. Of course I'm often wrong, as each day passes now.;-)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:12 PM
Aug 2025

senseandsensibility

(25,378 posts)
14. Obvious questions
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:25 PM
Aug 2025

for anyone who is really interested in solving this problem. Infuriating that they are not being discussed by everyone in government.

Torchlight

(6,986 posts)
13. This is a problem created wholly and solely by humans
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:25 PM
Aug 2025

Therefore, it can be overcome wholly and solely by humans as well. I'll listen to those who say what can be done. By the same token, I'll dismiss and ignore those who say it can't be done.

senseandsensibility

(25,378 posts)
15. Wise words
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:35 PM
Aug 2025

I've been hearing too much defeatism on this topic. It's not that it can't be done. It's that there are powerful forces preventing anything from being done.

BurnDoubt

(1,840 posts)
37. Prayer is useful in diverting responsibility to a God who is clearly ...
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 12:11 PM
Aug 2025

Not inclined to intercede, perhaps waiting for someone to heed His word.
In the meantime, the Powers That Be require the presence of armed actuaries "standing back and standing by" in the event they are needed to intervene. (Don't tell... it's a secret.)

IcyPeas

(25,686 posts)
16. Do Republican officials have active shooter drills where they work?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:49 PM
Aug 2025

Scare the crap out of them so they can feel an iota of what american school kids feel! Politicians walk around with security. 8 year olds .... meh... they're on their own.



IT.IS.MADNESS.

oysterpoint

(21 posts)
17. Constitutional Amendment...
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:50 PM
Aug 2025

...that regulates sales of all automatic and semi-automatic weapons and ammunition, requires background checks, and restricts use of all automatic weapons in the public domain. All ammunition is required to be RFID traceable.

If you have an AK-47 at home, fine, keep it there. Build a shrine to it. Whatever. If you take it off of your property, you lose it permanently and go to jail.

If you are a hunter or like target practice, etc., great, shotguns, single-shot rifles, handguns, etc., are all allowed, with a license and after a background check.

Easy, right?





Attilatheblond

(9,129 posts)
22. Guns & sexual predators get more protection than American children
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:32 PM
Aug 2025

Actual Family Values? The truth is out there and it's not good.

patphil

(9,170 posts)
23. We don't need to have kids suffering from PTSD.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:35 PM
Aug 2025

It's bad enough when our soldiers experience this after combat.
But, you know, gun ownership is the sacred right of all Americans.
JFC!

slightlv

(7,882 posts)
33. But they are suffering PTSD, and many will suffer from it all their lives...
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 10:14 PM
Aug 2025

not because they had one of these horrific shootings happen at their school, but because they are confronted with the realities each and every time they have an "active shooter drill." Some things you just don't get over, and they're doing of course at the youngest ages (because in this country, the most vulnerable are open targets for everything) when children are the most impressionable and what happens to them at that time will follow they all their lives.

I heard Kennedy and others talking about taking people off their SSRI's and other depressants a few months ago. All the repugs are doing is actually ensuring there'll be an entire generation addicted to the meds for sanity's sake.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
26. NRA is AWOL
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:49 PM
Aug 2025

They got nothing to say. Not a peep out of them about tyranny and abuse of power from the whitey house. Just cuddled up with their guns and gun profits.

senseandsensibility

(25,378 posts)
28. Yes, I'm old enough to remember when
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 06:55 PM
Aug 2025

they would at least go through routine of expressing sympathy. Now they don't even pretend.

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
27. How About Bullet-Proof Stained Glass Windows?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:54 PM
Aug 2025

or just have the services in the church's basement?

Rhiannon12866

(257,710 posts)
30. Video of his interview from MSNBC:
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 08:55 PM
Aug 2025
'I've never seen that': Nicolle Wallace reacts to 10-year-old shooting survivor in Minneapolis - Deadline - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132155233

DallasNE

(8,019 posts)
32. Because Nothing Gets Done Is Why They Keep Happening
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 09:36 PM
Aug 2025

And the answer is not to arm the teachers. How do you stop parents from giving their kids access to AR-type weapons? You could start by locking them up as there is no excuse for them to have unsupervised access to guns.

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