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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are the AP and others pushing this poll that Americans are concerned about crime in cities? Who isn't?
The Associated Press @APMost Americans see crime as a "major problem" in large cities. Trump has seized on the concern as he deploys the National Guard.
Why is AP stirring shit and prevaricating on the issue of whether these communities actually want soldiers patrolling their streets? What's their motivation in muddling an issue that has this president deploying military in Democratic-run cities with large minority populations using provable lies as justification for invoking 'emergency' powers to deploy the Guard?
That's the issues here; with no one in the administration actually establishing that deploying the nation's military, primarily against Americans, is whether this is an actual attempt by Trump to reduce crime; or if it's just a political stunt; and, whether his use of the military is welcome by the communities, or even requested (in compliance with the law) by the people residents elect to make those decisions about their communities.
Even more, the people the president claims to be protecting with the two deployments to Democratically-run cities, have clear majorities of residents who actually opposed Trump for president in the election.
Unsurprisingly, in the results of a [https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article311854845.html|YouGov survey Aug. 25-26], a plurality of Americans, 46%, believe local police are better at addressing crime in major cities than the National Guard. A majority, 61%, said their local police department would be better at addressing crime in their area, while just 6% selected the National Guard.
The AP generalization about concern among people polled all across America about crime in cities, is put into perspective by a Reuters/Ipsos poll which found just 38% of Americans support Trump's use of troops to police D.C..
I get that republicans will use opposing deployments of soldiers to neighborhoods as a wedge against Democrats by claiming that opposition to soldiers in our streets is opposition to fighting crime.
But, despite these misleading reports which are headlining the banal obviousness that Americans are concerned about crime, there's no evidence yet that any of these communities which are being subjected to this politicized militarization are coming anywhere near to supporting it in their own neighborhoods.
H2O Man
(79,257 posts)I saw a report two days ago that documented that most of the big cities with high rates of crime are where republicans are in charge.
DinahMoeHum
(23,680 posts)Poverty causes crime.
Therefore, Republicans cause crime.
senseandsensibility
(25,530 posts)of DC, however. New poll I saw on MSNBC today. Will that one receive as much attention?
Oeditpus Rex
(43,094 posts)is this one getting?
local police department in MO is controlled by the state and they are doing a piss poor job fighting crime.
bigtree
(94,672 posts)...which most successful cities rely on to prevent and reduce crime.
It's because they have a political goal in which they put themselves at odds with the local officials. That's why Missouri's board-governed control of the St. Louis MPD is opposed by the community and police unions, as well, because it undermines local control and accountability.
What's interesting in Missouri is that in 1861 a Confederate governor took control of Missouris biggest police department to help secessionists seize an arsenal.
....from a story published by The Beacon in December 2022 about the connection between state control of KCPD and Confederate machinations leading up to the Civil War:
The police bill was in reality a war measure, adopted to enable our people to control St. Louis, white supremacist and St. Louis police commissioner Basil Duke later said, as reported in Lion of the Valley by James Neal Primm. I knew the meaning of the measure and tried to carry it into action.
Although the Kansas City police board would not be created until the late 1800s, after the Civil War ended, its structure is outlined in Chapter 84 of Missouri statute, which dates back to the 1861 St. Louis police bill.
The legislature did not pass the police bill for any legitimate purpose, the lawsuit reads. The legislature passed the police bill to commit treason, to keep Black people captive, and to deny Black people basic human rights and dignities.
https://thebeaconnews.org/stories/2022/12/20/kcpd-state-local-control-history-police-board/
kirby
(4,535 posts)If the government installed cameras in everyone's home think of all the domestic violence that could be prevented or prosecuted!
Initech
(109,271 posts)bigtree
(94,672 posts)...poster is correct.
Oeditpus Rex
(43,094 posts)It's so easy to blame "the media" because you don't like the way certain news outlets do their job. It goes back maybe a century to "Cancel my subscription!" because of one editorial.
bigtree
(94,672 posts)...this should really crack you up.
Presidents & Press
https://www.pewresearch.org/topic/news-habits-media/media-society/politics-media-1/presidents-press/
...others, not so much, perhaps.
Oeditpus Rex
(43,094 posts)"Our media created this monster"?
bigtree
(94,672 posts)...it's practically an issue that deserves a lecture series.
And I'm going to guess that the laughing emoji is the substance of your objection since what you asserted as perjoratives of what someone supposedly said - "blame the media because you don't like the way certain news outlets do their job," and "Cancel my subscription, because of one editorial" - aren't actually found anywhere on this page except in your own response.
Oeditpus Rex
(43,094 posts)The second was an example of something commonly said in the days when newspapers and radio were the only news media.
spanone
(142,064 posts)COWARDS
Jack Valentino
(5,252 posts)would be more effective at controlling local crime.... Naturally said that National Guards
were not needed or even effective for that purpouse...
Been participating in the YouGov online polling group for nearly a year....
The pay from it very nearly pays for all my garbage collection costs for the year....
Skittles
(172,895 posts)the "trans issue", the "open borders issue", etc - the GOP knows how easy it is to manipulate really stupid people
Johonny
(26,623 posts)Fifty years ago in most major cities?
I believe the answer is yes.
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