Because Trump's $30 million "Happy Birthday To Me" Military Parade was a flop, the Navy is looking at a do-over

[Miles Archer]

The U.S. Navy is reportedly planning a lavish parade of its own after a multimillion-dollar military parade earlier this year left President Donald Trump feeling flat.

Trump hosted the military’s largest parade in decades in Washington, D.C., on June 14 to mark 250 years of the U.S. Army—and also, conveniently, his own 79th birthday.

As well as “No Kings” protests against Trump across the country to coincide with the military anniversary event that cost taxpayers $30 million, footage of “lackluster” soldiers marching out of step went viral. Photos suggested that the president rested his eyes at one point during his birthday party. Crowd figures were also less than impressive.

A new report in The Wall Street Journal has intel from the president’s administration that a do-over parade could be in the works—this time taking place at sea.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-navy-wants-to-hold-a-massive-boat-parade-to-cheer-up-trump/

[PJMcK]

1. There can't be many spectators at sea

Doesn’t Trump want throngs of crowds bowing down to him? It’s hard to do that on the water.

[marble falls]

3. A Nimitz class carrier has 6,000 crew members on deployment, a crowd big enough to 60,000 by TACO's count ...

https://pure-v-engine.com/how-many-people-are-on-an-aircraft-carrier/

Aircraft carriers are truly floating cities, housing thousands of personnel working in perfect synchronization. A modern American Nimitz-class supercarrier accommodates over 6,000 people during full deployment, divided between:

Ship’s company: 3,500-3,800 personnel
Air wing: 2,200-2,800 personnel

[PJMcK]

4. Trump wanted a million people at his birthday parade

The U.S. doesn’t have that many carriers, I don’t think.

My point was simple. You can get more people on land than on ships in a harbor.

Regardless, like everything else Trump attempts, this will fail.

[marble falls]

5. The US has 11 active duty nuclear carriers in service right now, more carriers than the rest of the world ...

... has all together by a factor of two, and only the the one nuclear carrier is owned by the French is nuclear.

The US also has conventionally powered carrier used as assault carriers manned with Marine aircraft.

If he were allowed to put to sea all those "boats" in one place, he'd have a hell of a crowd.

[PJMcK]

9. I'm not sure of your point

First, the U.S. Navy cannot bring all of its carriers into one place. That would be a target-rich environment, indeed. Importantly, there are still critical missions for our armed services in other parts of the world. Besides, those warships would not be ready for battle if they were putting on an ego parade for the big baby. Further, flyovers by naval aircraft do not provide “cover” as they would not be carrying ordinance in such a crowded environment, (at least I believe this to be true).

Second, the square area of ocean or harbor that would be needed for such a display of so many vessels would be huge! These ships, if unanchored, require to be moving through the water in order to maintain steerage otherwise the vessel is out of control. Just imagine how many square miles would be needed to choreograph all those vessels moving at 10-knots in a crowded and confined harbor! If they are anchored, they’re vulnerable.

Lastly, you listed the personnel aboard a carrier. Those are crew but I obviously agree Trump would ridiculously inflate that number. From where are all of Trump’s fans going to view the “parade?” On more boats thus crowding the viewing area even more? On the military vessels? (I doubt that Trump’s people have forgotten W’s aircraft carrier fiasco.) There’s just not enough room if Trump wants anyone besides the naval crews to see the “big event.”

In 1986, we sailed to NY Harbor for that year’s Op-Sail celebrating the 100th anniversary of the Statue of Liberty. The harbor was filled with tall ships, military and security vessels and many private boats. It was a crowded mess and yet we still couldn’t see anything because the distances were so far.

I have not written that Trump won’t do it. I’m simply pointing out that the logistics are exponentially larger than his little jerk-off parade in D.C. and it would be far more difficult to get thousands of spectators on the water. As usual for Trump, this is a stupid idea.

[marble falls]

13. No poop. Ex Navy here. they're in three groups - on station, being readied for/from station, ...

... refit/refuel (which can take years). Just like having Blue and Gold crews on FBMs. Three months out/ three months in without considering any refuels/serious refits. Only a month at sea out of the three months. Allegedly. Then there's the pig boats .....

No way in hell would they ever be put in one place, and no one place could ever hold them and their auxiliary and support ships.

My point is he is whistling up his own ass even considering a Naval ship of the line parade. But he goes to, say Norfolk he could rouse a pretty big crowd and get some 'boats' in home port.

I think GWB was way out of line landing on the deck of the Abraham Lincoln for a photo op. TACO is beyond the pale.

[marble falls]

2. Like GWB's fly-in to USS Abraham Lincoln wasn't hokey BS enough ...

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USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72) is the fifth Nimitz-class aircraft carrier in the United States Navy.

[Submariner]

6. It's sad he's so out of shape that he couldn't get out of a submarine if he could even get into it

A sub tour has ample opportunities for a dangerous tripping and head hitting going through hatches incident. And the chance of a lethal "accidental" radiation exposure seems like wishful thinking now.

Those fat cankles could never make it down a hatch ladder without him falling....wait...

[Jerry2144]

7. I think his circumference is bigger than that of the weapons shipping hatch

He’d never fit through it to enter the sub.

[yorkster]

12. Damn the Trumpedo! Full Speed Ahead!

Just say no, Navy.

[Jerry2144]

14. I like the idea of launching a Trumpedo

But the launch tubes aren’t that big in diameter for him to fit

[yorkster]

15. I figured that, but an image popped into my

mind...and of course I just had to pass it on. 🙄

[PJMcK]

11. I can think of one sub I'd like to see Trump take a ride in (n/t)

[Emile]

8. I would rather they use my tax dollars to help people 😕.

[Abnredleg]

10. It's their 250th Birthday this year

So of course they’re holding a major celebration. Sure, Trump will make himself the center of attention, but something like this would have occurred if Harris had won.

[Norrrm]

16. We can safely bet that USS John S. McCain won't be allowed in the formation.

[Buns_of_Fire]

17. Lake Travis should be cleared of the wreckage from Taco's last boat parade by now.