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gab13by13

(32,789 posts)
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 08:58 AM Aug 2025

Don't Watch The Stock Market - Watch The Bond market

30 year Treasury yields are approaching 5%. When long term bonds outpace short term bond yields it can be for good reasons or bad reasons. This is for bad reasons, when Krasnov is trying to gain control over the Fed.

Erdogan in Turkey took control of his central banks and this July Turkey's inflation is 33.5%.

The stock market moves merrily along, loves chaos, can make lots of money shorting disasters.

Krasnov wants to control the Fed to crash the dollar, it will take more dollars to buy things, hey, we always have Crypto.

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Don't Watch The Stock Market - Watch The Bond market (Original Post) gab13by13 Aug 2025 OP
Krasnov should be disqualified for a conflict of interest LakeVermilion Aug 2025 #1
Ha chicoescuela Aug 2025 #2
Yes, and he also invested 100 million dollars into bonds. gab13by13 Aug 2025 #6
Also more dollars to pay off The Debt. no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #3
It used to be that our GDP covered the interest on our debt, gab13by13 Aug 2025 #7
Average people don't understand the Fed Johnny2X2X Aug 2025 #4
Turkey's inflation actually spiked at 85% Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #5
I don't think there will be a rate cut in September, gab13by13 Aug 2025 #8
Powell and the Fed have already telegraphed an expected cut for September at the last Fed meeting Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #9
Did he really? gab13by13 Aug 2025 #10
Yes, those who parse the minutes of Fed meetings like reading tea leaves say so Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #11

LakeVermilion

(1,648 posts)
1. Krasnov should be disqualified for a conflict of interest
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:00 AM
Aug 2025

His crypto offerings do compete with the dollar.

no_hypocrisy

(55,390 posts)
3. Also more dollars to pay off The Debt.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:09 AM
Aug 2025

Post WWI Germany did that to pay Reparations for money it didn’t have. Deutschmarks were essentially worthless.

Johnny2X2X

(24,438 posts)
4. Average people don't understand the Fed
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:09 AM
Aug 2025

And on the Right it's part of their anti-intellectualism. The economists and bankers that sit on the Fed are among the most skilled and talented in the world. They've spent their lives dedicated to learning about finance and the economy. It's a group of experts who work together to help the economy reach maximum employment with modest inflation, that's their goal. They aren't perfect, they sometimes get things wrong, but there is no group more qualified to do what they do. The right wants to throw that away for gut feelings and chaos.

For all the heat the Fed takes, they've steered this economy through troubled waters over and over and avoided depressions. It's not their fault the politicians have created a system that rewards the rich and punishes working people.

Trump is a no nothing, the more influence he gets over the Fed, the worse off we'll be.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,107 posts)
5. Turkey's inflation actually spiked at 85%
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:13 AM
Aug 2025

Before settling to the current 33%.

A rate cut by the fed in September is almost a certainty unless inflation data comes in super hot.

At least one more cut expected by year end.

Rate cuts, along with tariffs, will goose inflation.

The DNC can fire all its consultants and use my proposed slogan for 2026 and beyond free of charge:

“Had Enough?”

gab13by13

(32,789 posts)
8. I don't think there will be a rate cut in September,
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:20 AM
Aug 2025

unless Krasnov kidnaps Powell's family.

Had Enough isn't good enough. Democrats have to do more than say to voters, we aren't as bad as the other party.

Democrats need to go back to their roots and stand for something.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,107 posts)
9. Powell and the Fed have already telegraphed an expected cut for September at the last Fed meeting
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:25 AM
Aug 2025

With the qualifier “if inflation doesn’t spike”

gab13by13

(32,789 posts)
10. Did he really?
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:28 AM
Aug 2025

That's what the people who want the Fed to cut rates are saying, and what the MSM is saying.

I admit my opinion is an outlier.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,107 posts)
11. Yes, those who parse the minutes of Fed meetings like reading tea leaves say so
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:30 AM
Aug 2025

It was reported a week or so ago after the minutes were released.

Powell is stuck between a rock and a hard place- stimulate the economy based on bad job reports at the risk of stagflation.

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