'Death toll will be unimaginable': Trump appointee called 'serial killer' after new move

[turbinetree]

By Alexander Willis
Published August 28, 2025 10:13 AM ET

Political strategist and columnist Rick Wilson laid into RFK Jr. Thursday following the Health and Human Services secretary’s firing of Susan Monarez, the Trump-appointed director for the Centers for Disease Control, calling him a “serial killer” and warning that the “death toll” of the decision would be "unimaginable.”

“RFK, Jr., heroin addict, sex addict, anti-vaccination lunatic and aspiring architect of millions of deaths purged the CDC last night,” Wilson wrote Thursday on his Substack “Against All Enemies.” “He gutted the world’s premiere public-health agency in his endless quest to destroy vaccine science and plunge this nation into the Middle Ages.”

The HHS fired Monarez on Wednesday citing her “reckless directives,” though Monarez has vowed to remain in her position, with her lawyers calling the firing “legally deficient.” Inside sources have said the firing followed a “clash” between Monarez and RFJ Jr. over, potentially, the HHS secretary’s position on vaccines, which he has long claimed are linked to autism, a claim thoroughly debunked by the scientific community.

https://www.rawstory.com/rfk-jr-2673937836/

Wilson is correct...............

-snip-

“I don’t know how this ends, but I know if it’s the last damn thing I do on this earth, this son of a b---- needs to be held to account,” Wilson wrote. “I’m in favor of short show trial, then a choice of wolves, horsewhipping, or a brisking hanging from a local tree.”

[Best_man23]

1. A lamp post outside a gas station works for me

I'm more into recreating classic moments of holding dictators and their sycophants to account.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

10. I hear

that Piazzale Loreto is beautiful this time of year.

[Texin]

22. Maybe RFK, Jr. can join his toad god POTUS in the Grand Poohbah's Gold Ballroom when they're both

suspended by their feet over a balcony in the grand finale soon.

[calimary]

62. They could both be hanging from the ceiling with lights all over them.

Artfully arranged, of course! Like matching chandeliers! And gold-painted.

[zorbasd]

34. Zeus willing

[alimbalt]

36. Preferably ...

... Mussolini style.

[Abstractartist]

77. Yup

And not just RFK jr.

[FadedMullet]

51. Best_Man23 - I though your gas station reference might be missed, but no, folks just piled on that one. Nice.

[Clouds Passing]

80. Lamp post time.

GHWB’s premonition.

[travelingthrulife]

2. Has anyone tested Bob jr for drug use?

Former heroin addict behaving abnormally.

[Captain Zero]

5. Why hasn't Trump paroled

Someone else in CA.

[Attilatheblond]

33. Is an addict ever actually 'former addict'? I think not. Just 'recovering' or still using, but always an addict

Often, an addict seems to just replace one substance with another.

[Maninacan]

58. Addict

Nothing against former users or addicts but RFK. jr is a nut!

[slightlv]

65. And the replacement doesn't have to be a "substance"... it can be a cult, for example.

[Attilatheblond]

72. Very often the case, in my obversation

[RandomNumbers]

83. Addiction is a terrible disease and rarely, if ever, the "fault" of the addict

From a friend in recovery - for about the 15th time: the real addiction is escapism. The substance or activity is just the means.

That said, I would not appoint a known addict - even my dear friend - to such a post of high responsibility for other people. It's potentially disastrous for the public, and isn't helpful to the addict (even if they may think it is).

[Irish_Dem]

52. Quite a few of Trump's circle need to be drug tested.

Daily.

[Arazi]

3. Gonna be a race to see who kills more: RFK domestically or Rubio by gutting international aid programs

We need a new word specific to Traitor for the Holocaust this administration is overseeing. They’re killing (will kill) millions…

[GB_RN]

15. They Already Did.

Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent killed 1,000,000 + Americans with his actions/inactions during the height of COVID. With the lazy-assed sycophant, Marco “Thirsty the Dwarf” Rubio as SoS, they’ll just kill people from “shithole countries” this time.

Of course, if there’s another pandemic* with these assholes in charge, well, what’s another million Americans?

*It’s not a question of “if”, really. It’s more a matter of when.

[vanlassie]

21. RFK Jr said "Hold my beer." Asshole.

[GB_RN]

45. Yup.

N/T

[bluescribbler]

54. "Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent" lol

That's a new favorite, right up there with "Tangelo Tinted Taint Tumor". I love the alliteration.

[GB_RN]

68. Triple C...

Was a personal creation. His dictatorial tendencies and demented behavior reminded me of stories about that particular Roman emperor, and corpulent, well, that’s self explanatory. That was the easy part. I had to think for a bit for a synonym for orange color that started with “c,” though. Then inspiration struck. Worked out well, because I hate cantaloupe. 😂

[Karasu]

61. When the next pandemic occurs, it's going to make the COVID death toll look like child's play. The chances of us

getting that lucky twice in a row with a virus's lethality rate are not high, especially if it's a recombinant...and now that production of mRNA vaccines has been defunded, this country is a sitting duck.

[Abstractartist]

78. How about MAGAcide

[Arazi]

79. Good candidate

[intrepidity]

4. They just won't record/report the deaths. nt

[Ilsa]

12. Make it illegal for doctors to collect data from

patients and illegal for health departments to collect data from health professionals. If thatt fails, install stooges who have no reputation to lose when they lie about the numbers. (Stop counting covid cases!)

[yankee87]

26. Death during pregnancy

Already not reporting deaths due to medical care not being provided for pregnant people.
No covid vaccine, measles outbreak. Next up the Four Horsemen of Death

[Hornedfrog2000]

29. Its gonna be hard to hide

They will overfill the hospitals this fall.

[Akakoji]

31. I'm an ER doc

You have no idea how bad it is already.

[Evolve Dammit]

49. Let us know what would help. And thank you

[progressoid]

39. Just do like the IA GOP run government did during the pandemic.

Just stop counting.

Kim Reynolds ending COVID disaster declaration, shutting down vaccination and case count websites

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds announced Thursday that she will soon end public health disaster proclamations that Iowa has operated under since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic nearly two years ago.

The shift will include pulling the plug on a state website focusing on COVID data, such as the number of Iowans testing positive for the disease, being hospitalized with it or dying from it. However, many of those statistics will continue to be available on other state and federal websites, Kelly Garcia, interim director of the Iowa Department of Public Health, said Thursday...



https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2022/02/03/iowa-governor-kim-reynolds-end-covid-disaster-policies-vaccination-case-websites-omicron/6653655001/

[llmart]

63. Wasn't there also some fudging of numbers with DeSantis in Florida?

Some woman was fired over keeping her own records - can't remember what her job was - but she went public with what DeSatan was doing.

[area51]

70. I think you may be referring to

Rebekah Jones.

[llmart]

74. Yes, that's the one I was thinking of.

[Vinca]

6. Ever since Bobby the loon was installed, I've been worried about something like ebola turning up and

spreading across the country. I think of the last reign of terror and Covid. If something as bad or worse comes along we could all face extinction.

[LPBBEAR]

18. You don't have to go as far as Africa.

Bird Flu is here right now and probably closer than most of us think. We had two beautiful outdoor Cats die recently within a couple days of each other of what I suspect might have been Bird Flu. The symptoms were pretty close to what I read were those of Bird Flu. Pretty awful. I gloved and masked when I was near them just in case. They both started showing symptoms around the same time, then they seemed to improve. I was thinking they were recovering. That only lasted a few days until they went suddenly really bad. They were gone 2 days apart.
I suspect we're going to see a real upsurge in Covid deaths with RFKjr/Trump running things. If something like Bird Flu gets loose in the population we're in real trouble with those two morons at the helm.

They're murdering Americans and deserve the death penalty.

[crimycarny]

23. I read that cats are a bridge to humans for bird flu

First and foremost, I am so sorry you lost your two beautiful cats. To try and nurse them only to see them go downhill and then pass, that has to be excruciating.

I remember months ago reading about the alarm over cats contracting bird flu, as cats are a gateway to humans (not sure why cats, but apparently not all mammals are gateways, but cats are). The risk is low, but it alarmed those watching the bird flu.

Bird flu is terrifying As you said, if Bird Flu gets loose in the population, it will make COVID seem like a cake walk. I can't even.....ugh.

[Hekate]

44. Why cats as a bridge? They sleep with their humans. They snuggle.

All you have to do is read the Pets forum at DU to get an idea of just how close they are to us — and by close I mean sleeping with and sharing breath with.

[crimycarny]

46. It's not their closeness to humans, it's something in their biology

I wish I could find the article I came across that mentioned cats as a bridge to humans regarding bird flu. The 3 mammals that are "bridges" are: cows, pigs, and cats. Dogs aren't, and dogs are just as likely to snuggle with owners.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

64. If that happens

I’m hiding in my house with an n95 mask and I will make one that my cat will wear. I have a duty to protect my baby, Othello

[Disaffected]

25. What did the vet give

as a cause of death?

[LPBBEAR]

73. Never made it to one

As I mentioned they both appeared to be getting better. We were thinking they were on the road to recovery. We came out one morning and it was obvious one had taken a sudden sharp turn for the worse overnight. That was on a Friday. Vets around here are always booked up. We tried to get an appointment but nothing was available until Monday. That Cat passed away Saturday morning. The second Cat got bad by Saturday morning and was gone by Monday morning. Tessie and Smoki, both beautiful Siamese. Smoki was Tessie's daughter. Smoki was probably the prettiest Cat I've ever seen and not even a year old. Her brother Snowbie survived somehow and never appeared sick. He is still with us and as cute as ever.

Whatever took them did it in less than 2 weeks.

Week one
Mild symptoms, a bit of Eye redness conjunctivitis, otherwise acting normal and eating

Week two
Seemed to be recovering, eating normally, conjunctivitis easing

End of Week two
Sudden hard turn, eyes watering profusely, not eating, extreme lethargy, gone in 2 days

We have indoor Cats also and have seen similar symptoms as week one, all recovered just fine so we didn't think it was anything serious during the first period. The indoor Cats never go outside. The change with Tessie and Smoki was overnight and sudden.

If anyone reading this has Cats who are indoor/outdoor or outdoor watch them closely if you see similar symptoms. All I can assume is that one of them caught and consumed an infected bird and shared or passed it to the other assuming it was actually bird flu. We'll never know for sure.

[Disaffected]

86. That's an awful thing to go through.

I don't wish to belabor you with this but, maybe for future reference, are there no emergency vet services available in your area?

[LPBBEAR]

92. Yes, there are

Extremely expensive and hard to get through to. Additionally most of the Vets in this area are incompetent. (Cat owner here who has tried several and had numerous bad experiences with local Vets.)

Even so it was obvious that neither one of them were going to make it even with a Vet. I've never seen anything as brutal as whatever this was. I knew as soon as I saw the change that they weren't going to make it. It was brutal. I've held several of our past kitties paws so to speak as they struggled through their final days. This was nothing like that. This was sudden and brutal and fast. They didn't have a chance. Thanks for the thoughts anyway. I know you meant well.

[Jim__]

7. "When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king; the palace becomes a circus"

Trump is president and RFK Jr is Secretary of HHS. Jesus H Christ!

[mountain grammy]

8. I favor wolves and horsewhipping

but he'd probably enjoy it.. just hang the motherfucker!

[kacekwl]

32. Put him in stocks on the

National Mall so citizens can chose the own method of retribution.

[ancianita]

9. Rick Wilson, as usual, has the right issue but the wrong damn answer, and typically a RW solution to democracy

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problems. Sure "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," BUT AS ALWAYS, that's only temporary.

So no, this is not "correct":

“I don’t know how this ends, but I know if it’s the last damn thing I do on this earth, this son of a b---- needs to be held to account,” Wilson wrote. “I’m in favor of short show trial, then a choice of wolves, horsewhipping, or a brisking hanging from a local tree.”

Don't trust that Wilson is anything but a guilt-ridden opportunist who knows he helped get us here.
We might "feel" his outrage, but we must not buy into his solutions; we must remember that Wilson's solutions are not how the Democratic Party works.

[3825-87867]

30. A-ha!

Please be so kind as to tell us how the Democratic Party works. From what I've seen the last decade plus, every Democrat either thinks we go "high" (thanks Michele!) because we're better than them or Democrats have no answer or a thousand maybe's of which the centrist Democrats can't agree because it might affect THEM.

[ancianita]

37. AHA! If you think

the Democratic Party's backing and use of rule of law doesn't work, then
a) you don't know that it's the US 'rule of law' courts and judges who are still holding this democratic government together, and
b) you endorse right wing violence as the only punishment due to the current tyrant.

Paolo Freire calls what you and Wilson want The Pedagogy of the Oppressed.[/i]

The idea that the oppressed become the new oppressors is a concept known as the cycle of oppression, that without a proper understanding of liberation and a conscious effort to humanize both the oppressed and their oppressors, the formerly oppressed may simply internalize the values of their oppressors and replicate the same patterns of injustice once they gain power. The struggle for freedom must aim at restoring humanity and creating a new society, rather than merely switching roles.

The takeaway is that merely removing an oppressor without transforming underlying corrupt systems and consciousness of the people will not solve the issue of oppression.


Don't blame everything -- party centrists, party this or that blah blah -- that doesn't work on your own damn political party.

The Party works. It's the current election and damaged federal government structures that don't work.

Your turn.

[3825-87867]

75. My turn?

When the Democrats (other than Gavin) actually do something that is meaningful and actually opens the eyes of the "common Democrat" and produces a response in more than one medium, I'm sure you'll let us know, right!

[ancianita]

88. Of course.

Are you saying that over the last 6 months, "common Democrats" haven't seen what congressional Democrats are doing? Not even once? If so, then "other than Gavin" you yourself clearly haven't been paying attention, and/or you and "common Democrats" -- who you imply that you speak for -- don't want to know.

If you did, you'd have seen Jeffries and Schumer are on MSNBC at least once or twice weekly while congress was in session.

Not only that, but Jeffries & Schumer put theirs and other Democrats' congressional speeches before CSPAN cameras and into the Congressional Record. Maybe you don't remember that Cory Booker's 25 hour speech about the big ugly bill was covered by all networks and made headlines -- "in more than one medium."

Maybe you didn't see that Schumer has made numerous appearances, particularly in relation to:
-- Debates and discussions on government funding, including a notable instance in March 2025 where he initially opposed then supported a Republican spending bill to avoid a government shutdown.
This decision generated significant news coverage and backlash from within his own party.
He appeared on programs such as Meet the Press to defend his position.
-- Floor remarks and press conferences on various topics such as Trump's policies, Project 2025, trade tariffs, Social Security, and aid to Israel.
-- Interviews on his book "Antisemitism in America: A Warning," including appearances on CBS Mornings and -- The New York Times' "The Interview".
-- Media appearances and press conferences on issues like Trump's nominees and the Epstein Files.
-- A postponed book tour due to security concerns after his funding bill decision, which also generated news coverage.

Maybe you haven't noticed that minority leader Hakeem Jeffries has done the same in the House. On August 11 he slammed the felon for seizing control of DC Police -- "in more than one medium, "YouTube videos and The Hill reported it.

March:
March 17: Democrats launch "People's Town Halls" nationwide, targeting vulnerable Republicans according to Democrats.
March 29: Rep. Maxwell Frost attends the Michigan Democratic Party People's Town Hall in Warren, Michigan.

April:
April 10: Democrats announce a "People's Town Hall" blitz during the April recess to hold the GOP accountable for their budget plan.
April 10: The Democratic Party states they are "doubling down" on town halls in Republican-held districts, featuring high-profile figures like Senator Cory Booker.
April 13: A People's Town Hall is held in Arizona's 6th Congressional District, represented by Republican Rep. Juan Ciscomani.
April 22: A "Good Trouble Festival" town hall takes place in Pennsylvania's 8th Congressional District, represented by Republican Rep. Rob Bresnahan.
April 24: A town hall is held in Colorado's 8th Congressional District, represented by Republican Rep. Gabe Evans.
April 24: Another town hall is hosted in North Carolina's 9th Congressional District, represented by Republican Rep. Richard Hudson.
April 25: A town hall occurs in Missouri's 2nd Congressional District, represented by Republican Rep. Ann Wagner.
April 26: The Manatee Democratic Party, in partnership with Indivisible Manatee, hosts a Town Hall Event featuring former Congressman and MSNBC Contributor, David Jolly.

May:
May 16: Greenwood's Town Hall at 6:30pm EDT.
May 17: "Benefits Over Billionaires" Town Hall in Allentown, Pennsylvania's 1st Congressional District, at 7:00pm EDT.
May 17: Muncie's Town Hall in Indiana's 5th Congressional District, at 10:00am EDT.
May 18: "Benefits Over Billionaires" Town Hall in Bucks County, Pennsylvania's 1st Congressional District, at 5:30pm EDT.
May 19: New Bern's Town Hall in North Carolina's 3rd Congressional District, at 6:00pm EDT.
May 20: SPCDP Tiny Town Hall in Nebraska's 3rd Congressional District, at 6:00pm EDT.
May 25: Dawson County Town Hall in Nebraska's 3rd Congressional District, at 3:00pm CDT.

June:
June 6: A People's Town Hall in Michigan's 7th Congressional District with Senator Elissa Slotkin and Congresswoman Kristen McDonald Rivet at 5:30pm EDT.

July:
July 8: Fort Wayne's Town Hall in Indiana's 3rd Congressional District at 6:00pm EDT.
July 11: The Manatee County Democratic Party hosts a virtual candidate town hall, featuring candidates for US Representative, District 16, Manatee School Board, District 1 (non-partisan), and Manatee County Commissioner.
July 19: Beto O'Rourke holds a town hall in Glen Allen, Virginia.
July 24: Democrats ramp up town hall offense with focus on Epstein.
July 26: Florida Democrat Maxwell Frost holds a town hall in Dayton, Ohio, with Senator Chris Murphy.
July 26: American Pride Rises hosts the "Summer of Us" town hall and community celebration in Orlando, focused on discussing challenges and promoting solutions to expand healthcare coverage, strengthen community hospitals, and address affordability issues.
July 30: Indivisible is launching a national effort to train one million people, with the next session taking place on this date.
July 31: Democratic Rep. Mark Pocan is scheduled to speak in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin.

August:
August 14-16: Florida League of Cities Annual Conference takes place in Orlando, Florida.
August 20: Manatee Chamber Headliners Luncheon takes place in Lakewood Ranch, Florida.
End of August: Florida Democrat Maxwell Frost plans another event with Senator Elizabeth Warren in Nebraska.

Whether because of poor memory or just lack of attention, when you make stuff up about the party by claiming it doesn't do enough, it makes you, not the party, look a bit inattentive and/or lazy. I'll even bet that "common Democrats" know more of these things than you think.

[Hekate]

40. Dear fellow DUer: My daughter is an antivaxxer who thinks NotRFK is God's Gift. My grandkids are free of the evil vaxes

I am not the only one suffering from this cultish anti-science movement. Abstract principles have become all-too-personal.

For what NotRFK has unleashed and will continue to unleash, I am in accord with Rick Wilson. As far as I am concerned, horsewhipping is too good for him, but I would settle for a short sharp hanging from the nearest tree, as Rick Wilson put it.

Consider the children crippled by diseases long-conquered. Consider the children and their grandparents dead of infectious diseases we know how to manage.

NotRFK is fully aware of what he’s doing, and he is a psycho who enjoys the power of death.

[ancianita]

43. I hear you.

It's complicated, since the lawless end of one non-abstract evil will prevent many more. I understand.

I agree with all you say about NotRFK's intentions.

Yet we in a democracy must not hasten its ending by ...

I can't do this. Good ends do not justify lawless means. I'm disappointed that so many would be going along with yet another vengeful right winger.

[Hekate]

47. What do you think of Gov. Newsom's idea to fight gerrymandering with gerrymandering?

People are certainly fighting back against the idea by using our own words against us, which I certainly find painful. Some RW group even fraudulently used the League of Women Voters name, logo, and falsified signatures of LWV’s two women leaders, to send out a flyer saying how horrifying and immoral it all was of Calif. Gov. Newsom. Nothing about Texas Gov. Abbot trying to ensure a permanent GOP majority in the US House, though.

The Tech Bros and other RW oligarchs have declared war on us all. It’s a real war.

[ancianita]

89. I think he's one of our best governors. He shows great confidence in the people of CA to want equal representation.

Republican dirty politics has been bought and paid for since the days of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. We've played by one set of fact-based issues and campaign rules while they've played by dirty and dishonest campaign rules.

Yes, they and Stephen Miller, their mouthpiece, have clearly declared full on war against the liberal big tent Democratic Party and they will try to win it by any means necessary -- by dirty politics, gerrymandering, voter suppression, threats and violence.with that for decades and yet we've still won.

Anyway, you're preaching to the converted here. We know what they threaten... to pay gunners (and promise to set their families up for life if they're killed) to mass shoot in battleground states, which then gives the felon "cause" for deploying troops into battlegrounds -- to "protect his beautiful christians ... Nice church ya got here, too bad if somethin' happened to it."

Variations of this protection racket strategy will likely be repeated in every battleground state over the next 14 months.

Their election goal: to keep christians from voting, keep the rest of the state intimidated to stay away from election polls so as to shut down a high turnout that current polls show could happen -- e.g., the Iowa special election -- which we won anyway, as we have all the other special elections of the last year.

We've put up with their spectrum of performative nothingburger governing, taking away from the People, fighting vote certification in the courts, their cheating in a hundred ways, and yet when the country sees the chips are down, we win more than not.

[druidity33]

76. Trial by jury first sure...

but by then the deaths will be VERY REAL. Are you in favor of the death penalty if his policies do kill MANY people and he is held to account? I think Wilson is speaking in hyperbole btw, but i think he is speaking with the same visceral rage that i'm feeling right now as the parent of an autistic child. The calm sense of reason you are appealing for seems very far away. I'm going to step away and let people rage without judgement.

[ancianita]

90. Emotional manipulation isn't a good life strategy or a good governing strategy. But I hear ya.

I'll accept a "death in life" life sentence with no parole for those who've been proven in court to knowingly cause deaths of many people.

Reason and rule of law create an orderly town, state and country. What you sound like you want is ongoing venting, which wastes energy, loses focus on what the goal is, and doesn't help us get votes but just plays into the emotional manipulations that the RW has always used.

Reason is only far away from those who choose to move far from it. Hand wringing and letting feelings control us -- instead of the other way around -- has never helped the Democrats. We need to give that up -- it's a bad emotional habit -- and stand behind strong governors and leaders like Newsom, Pritzker and our other leaders.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

57. I am 100% in agreement, especially the last sentence of your post.

He is a modern day Mengele and he likely gets off on having this kind of power over people’s health.

[slightlv]

66. I think he should be hung for what he's done to Bobby's name and legacy!

I'm at the far end of the Boomer generation, so I was pretty young when Bobby was killed... and I idolized him and his ideals. I hate what RFK jr has done. A lot of the Kennedy's had problems, but so many of them actually did good in a public service manner, as well as personally. It's horrifying how one especially bad apple fell so far from the tree and ruined their good name.

[RandomNumbers]

84. Oh darn, you had to bring common sense to a fun party.

I agree with you, but I certainly relate to the sentiments in Wilson's piece.

I took the piece as hyperbole. But to your point, we have to be wary of not becoming what we despise.

[ancianita]

91. We haven't the luxury for these "parties" anymore. We've GOT to stay focused and not let

sentiment substitute for commitment to focus and do the hard things to win the upcoming four battles we have to fight before 2029.

If we aren't adult enough to do that, we will never govern again.

[moondust]

11. Need some statisticians

working with medical professionals to keep track of all the needless deaths and disease directly or indirectly caused by the tRump administration. Maybe eventually he/they can be held accountable.

[Hekate]

41. You mean the statisticians who were fired by Trump/DOGE and govs like DeSantis?

[moondust]

50. Good choice.

Maybe some insider knowledge on how to access the real data plus a little extra motivation.

[Ray Bruns]

13. I would prefer what happened to Ramsey Bolton in the Game of Thrones.

[Ilsa]

14. For those who are unaware...

Ramsey, one of the most cruel characters ever written, was captured, his vicious dogs were starved and then set on RB after a few bleeding cuts were made on his body.

[Hekate]

42. Sounds good to me. His cousin Caroline says when they were teens he owned raptors...

His feeding preparation method was to drop live baby mice into a blender, in front of his cousins.

Then there was his role as family heroin-pusher.

[Ilsa]

71. He's a sociopath, easily. I suspect

only his name got him into Ivy league. I don't have much respect for his intellect if he can't tell the difference between correlation and causation.

[Marthe48]

16. I wouldn't be unhappy if he dropped where he stands

It would be thrilling if the whole plague of criminal maniacs were felled in one fell swoop.

[gfarber]

17. The plague race

A strategist raged with great flair,
At RFK Jr.'s wild healthcare tear.
He called him a killer,
A chaos fulfiller,
With science tossed up in the air.

RFK Jr.’s wrecking the place,
Fired Monarez — fell from grace.
Rick Wilson declared,
"He's clinically impaired,
And dragging us back to the plague race."

[Exp]

19. How about PILLORYING so to fit these mid-evil science times?! Leeches, anyone?? nt

[Ksout]

20. Diabolical plan and not just stupidity?

What will be the total loss of life from Trump's attack of preventative health programs, loss of medicaid, loss of shelter and food programs, stopping of health research programs, etc.? Is this this the way they deal with aging populations with their chronic diseases and workers displaced by AI?

[sop]

24. RFK Jr. is a former personal injury trial lawyer, he's made million$ suing drug manufacturers for "faulty vaccines."

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s selection to run the Health and Human Services Department is being cheered by plaintiffs’ attorneys who focus on mass tort cases...In Kennedy, they see one of their own. He’s a former trial attorney who handled large personal injury and environmental cases against corporate defendants."

"Kennedy would take control of a massive bureaucracy that includes the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry...Those agencies’ scrutiny of products is a potential guide for lawyers who sue companies accused of harming consumers. New regulations could also weaken some of the defenses that drugmakers in particular use to fight off mass tort suits."

"Kennedy was of counsel at injury law firm Morgan & Morgan, and served as co-counsel with Wisner Baum in ongoing (vaccine) litigation (at his confirmation Kennedy said he would not give up his financial interest in future vaccine litigation settlements at Wisner Baum...his son is also an attorney at that firm)....At HHS, he would have the power to influence drug and medical device regulation, scrap a liability shield for pharmaceutical companies, or re-review the science behind products that are already on the market."

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/business-and-practice/rfk-jr-as-health-chief-excites-mass-tort-lawyers-eager-to-sue

[Klarkashton]

27. Conflicts of interest mean nothing to trump.

[RandomNumbers]

85. Morgan & Morgan? I knew they sounded sketchy

Used to hear their ads on the radio all the time. Mostly targeted toward men in divorce cases. Definitely seemed to have a slant towards "father's parental rights" - with an implication to me (based on knowing some guys like this), that any level of bad behavior of the man in the case would be no object to the firm working to achieve the best financial and child-custody outcome (for the man) they could manipulate the family court system for.

So not surprised to hear that a worm like Bob Jr was working for/with them.

[SheltieLover]

28. Kick

[NewEnglandAutumn]

35. So far from what we know

They are withdrawing approval for most people. Those who have underlying health conditions should still be able to get it. The big problems are. 1) will insurance still cover it 2) will Medicare cover it (that who had been pay for most people over 65) and will pharmacies want to stick it now. It is not cheap and they will not want to have a lot of unusable inventory on hand.

[Blue Owl]

38. I sure hope millions of folks don't have to find out the hard way

But I'm afraid they will, along with the many sane citizens of this country who know that you DON'T PUT A DERANGED, DRUG-ADDLED, BRAINWORM-INFESTED LUNATIC IN CHARGE OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

Jesus fucking Christ on a car roof...

[Evolve Dammit]

48. truth Rick. What happened to Michael Schmidt? Haven't heard from him lately. Used to appear on MSNBC

[bluescribbler]

53. I'm kind of partial to having him drawn and quartered.

Or, maybe, a death by a thousand cuts?

[Bohunk68]

82. I have a fondness for the French Solution

Updated with ceramic zirconium blades that will never need re-sharpening. Modern glideways and lubricants. electronic release and recapture. Audio/video recording devices for sales. Most important: face up to enhance the experience.

[Doodley]

55. This is the type of language and passion that all lawmakers should be using to save lives and save science.

America is in crisis, and not one lawmaker is doing enough to fight against it.

[JHB]

56. Considering who he works for, I'm thinkin' concrete galoshes would be appropriate

And remember it's not just Trump. The whole damn Conservative Movement is backing this.

[Linda ladeewolf]

60. They are all for it, because they don't actually think it will happen to them.

They will get the biggest surprise, I think.

[slightlv]

67. I read somewhere today where trump is pushing to get the

Democratic Party registered as a Terrorist Organization. I thought how totally appropriate for him... projection, once again! The GOP actually is living up to the definition right freaking now.

[Karasu]

59. Good. Keep this at the forefront of the news. This regime needs to be forced to explain why the fuck they're trying

to kill people with these insane policies...and the country needs to fucking listen.

[DSandra]

81. Quite simply, they are Nazis

They believe that only the strongest and most ruthless should survive, and the just useful should just be kept alive enough to work for them, and everyone else should be gotten rid of, especially the minorities.

[Jack Valentino]

69. There are a LOT of 'sons of bitches' who are candidates for a local tree...

Guess he was talking about RFK Jr. specifically,
but I can think of some others...


The 'Tree of Liberty' is thirsty for some new blood, right about now....

[B.See]

93. I'm thinking along the lines of

the Marie Antoinette, for MOST of these fkrs.

[ecstatic]

94. Millions of people around the world will die

It won't be just Americans on the chopping block due to these reckless moves. Start spending quality time with the people you love.

[Heftylefty]

95. RFK Jr, serial killer

It amazes me that RFK Jr, being around my age, grew up seeing the same things I did: People crippled by polio, infants dying from whooping cough, babies born deaf or blind because their pregnant mothers caught rubella, class mates who died of complications of pneumonia or encephalitis from measles, and some who survived left brain-damaged or deaf, encephalitis from chicken pox, testicular inflammation from mumps that resulted in sterility, death or crippling complications from meningitis, but he is doing his damnedest to eliminate vaccination for ALL these preventable diseases. My generation is now suffering from shingles caused by the chicken pox virus we still have in our bodies, or developing multiple cancers from human papilloma virus because we were born too late for those vaccines. He's ended all research and development of bird flu vaccines, as well as new COVID variants. Without a bird flu vaccine, the death toll from that could be the same as the 1918 flu epidemic,
which killed as many as 100 million people worldwide (COVID killed 6.2 million.) BTW, the 1918 flu strain originated in birds as well. mRNA research has been halted, not just for vaccines, but as treatment for cancer, autoimmune and other diseases or conditions as well. This man may wind up being responsible for more deaths than any serial killer or mass murderer in human history.