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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOnce again, they get it wrong.
KKKarolyn Leavitt, holding a press briefing today in the WH, announced that "President trump signed a directive today ordering flags to be flown at half-mast" (referencing the MN shooting).
Repeat after me, dumbbell: Staff if on land; Mast if at sea. Got it?
yorkster
(3,953 posts)though half-staff is "preferred" on land, er, shore.
Totally Tunsie
(12,028 posts)Its a bit of a custom in the English language to assign certain words exclusively to maritime use. Anyone whos ever been on a recreational boat knows that left and right become port and starboard, or that front and back become stem and stern. American English observes a distinction between land and sea when it comes to flying flags in mourning. In the United States, therefore, flags flown on land are not flown from masts, but from staffs.
However, the United Kingdom and the rest of the English-speaking nations that once comprised the British Empire have had no qualms about bringing the term half-mast to dry land. The Associated Press Stylebook recommends half-staff in American usage, but a trip across the pond or even a trip across the Canadian border will find flags on land flying at half-mast. So, use the term half-staff at home in the Statesunless, of course, youre an inveterate Anglophile.
To summarize, "half-staff" is the term used for flags on land, particularly in the United States. It is a term used to describe a flag that is raised halfway, between the top and bottom of the flagpole. When the American flag is flown at half-staff, it conveys a similar message of respect and mourning. This custom is most often observed following the death of a government official, military personnel, or in response to a significant national tragedy.
yorkster
(3,953 posts)this is a regional thing. I've spent most of my life in New England, not far from the coast and have heard mast over staff most times. (Sounds painful, doesn't it?)
So maybe the British usage lingered longer here?
In any case, you are correct. No arguing with that source. But I may have to stick to the mast (!!) as it does roll off the tongue more easily, so to speak.
And yes, Leavitt is odious.
Totally Tunsie
(12,028 posts)yorkster
(3,953 posts)Totally Tunsie
(12,028 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,643 posts)Maybe ease up on the semantics and fight actual battles.
Redleg
(7,026 posts)Semper Fi, from a dog-face.
Wounded Bear
(64,643 posts)Redleg
(7,026 posts)It's just how I slump in my chair when I am sitting. Nothing dirty about it.
unc70
(6,514 posts)Totally Tunsie
(12,028 posts)Jerry2144
(3,319 posts)Double-staff. Ill have to add an extension to the flag pole to make our taller. But not too tall, I dont want the flag to burn from all the celebratory fireworks
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