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niyad

(134,035 posts)
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:50 PM Aug 2025

For the "thoughts and prayers" only crowd. .why is it that you pray to your "god"

AFTER every tragedy, every shooting, every earthquake, every fire, etc., etc. but not BEFORE? If your "god" is so caring, so loving, so understanding, so ALL-POWERFUL, why does he allow/create these situations in the first place? "Thank you for sparing my life, even though my town, my home, my friends, were all destroyed" does not seem reasonable to me. I do not understand the failure to connect the dots.

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For the "thoughts and prayers" only crowd. .why is it that you pray to your "god" (Original Post) niyad Aug 2025 OP
Dyed-in-the-wool atheist here, but it's common in Christianity to ask for blessings in advance TheProle Aug 2025 #1
Inner Locus of Control. multigraincracker Aug 2025 #2
"...why does he allow/create these situations in the first place? " 3catwoman3 Aug 2025 #3
He is way too busy. Traildogbob Aug 2025 #4
Ah, thank you for that clear explanation. And for your last sentence. niyad Aug 2025 #6
I hear God is a WNBA fan. He's going to be busy as the playoffs will be starting soon. madinmaryland Aug 2025 #8
I know Traildogbob Aug 2025 #9
BE THE HELP YOU PRAY FOR! EmmaLee E Aug 2025 #5
People pray to their God for comfort. pwb Aug 2025 #7
Profound writerJT Aug 2025 #10
Thank you. niyad Aug 2025 #15
No. Thank YOU! writerJT Aug 2025 #16
I thought MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #11
Well, let's see. We had maybelline couchhumper explaining "thoughts niyad Aug 2025 #13
Why do infinitely powerful beings need to be worshipped? Intractable Aug 2025 #12
Never undeerstood that myself. .like a sign I saw on the back of a car here niyad Aug 2025 #14
One of many ways God is made in man's image... 3catwoman3 Aug 2025 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #18
What slogan would that be? niyad Aug 2025 #22
I DID pray before the tragedies, but the son of a bitch Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #19
Those prayers are, sadly, NOT being answered. niyad Aug 2025 #21
because it is a bunch of fucking nonsense Skittles Aug 2025 #20
I'm shy to discuss my own beliefs, but... Tommy Carcetti Aug 2025 #23

TheProle

(4,113 posts)
1. Dyed-in-the-wool atheist here, but it's common in Christianity to ask for blessings in advance
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:55 PM
Aug 2025

as well as lamenting suffering after the fact. I mean, the Lords Prayer and 23rd Psalm are sort of preventative praying.

It's a universal truism that deities are fickle entities, indeed.

multigraincracker

(38,053 posts)
2. Inner Locus of Control.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:55 PM
Aug 2025

The world is random. Like a deck of cards is shuffled. I have no control over it.
The only control I have is how I play the cards that are dealt to me.

3catwoman3

(29,809 posts)
3. "...why does he allow/create these situations in the first place? "
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 06:04 PM
Aug 2025

A damn good question that never gets a good answer. The usual BS "answers" are that Gawd works in mysterious ways and that we aren't meant to understand.

It always irritates the hell out of me when those who are offering thoughts and prayers after a mass shooting ask Gawd to bless the families of the victims. If whatever Gawd there might be were really blessing the, their beloved family members wouldn't have been slaughtered.

A few years ago, a neighbor dropped dead frpm a heart attack while owing his lawn. I joined with some women from the neighborhood to help organize things for the memorial service. I think I was the only one who was not a member of a mainstream church (happily questioning agnostic UU here). During the planning session, as it was drawing to a close, one of the women said, "We've got this, ladies. God's got this."

I had to resist with all my might not to retort, "If God's got this, why did Dave die while mowing his lawn?"

Traildogbob

(13,163 posts)
4. He is way too busy.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 06:06 PM
Aug 2025

Choosing athletes he prefers to win events around the world. Now with football ready to go all in, he will have no time for children being slaughtered or hurricane casualties. Joe Quarterback needs a win before he can praise his help.
Track and Field Worlds and Soccer Worlds with football and baseball playoffs……what do we expect from God, he can’t be everywhere………….(She could, women are the best multi taskers)

Traildogbob

(13,163 posts)
9. I know
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:07 PM
Aug 2025

Track, Field, Baseball, Football, WNBA, Soccer, Wiffle Ball, Quadball, Bull Shooter Invitational, Turf War Kickball, Tennis, Belt Sander Races, Highland Games, Swarm Fling Golf, Table Hockey, Timber Sports, Corgi Races, Footgolf World Cup, Wisconsin Auctioneers Championship, Omega Ball Men’s Championship, Roofball, Ultimate Disc, eScooter Championship, Nobelville Bed Races, Adult Big Wheel Races, Air Guitar Championship and many more.
These are ALL real sports events this weekend.
Gonna be a busy God.
Plus, gotta be NASCAR.
AND is in Trump’s ear 24/7. (The good ear, not the one blown off as Eric described)

EmmaLee E

(274 posts)
5. BE THE HELP YOU PRAY FOR!
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 06:15 PM
Aug 2025

(My word to the thoughts and prayers crowd.)

God works through people, and we must use our hands, our minds, our actions.
When people are in distress - those that enter the fray and help them are the Godly Ones.
Those who see trouble on a grand scale and offer legislation (see gun control) are the Godly Ones.

Look to the Helpers - they are the Godly Ones.
Be the help you pray for.

pwb

(12,802 posts)
7. People pray to their God for comfort.
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 06:35 PM
Aug 2025

It is humankind that creates the grief and is more deserving of the ridicule. IMO.

writerJT

(467 posts)
16. No. Thank YOU!
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:09 PM
Aug 2025

Your post has given me a whole new way to see the world. It’s so original, so revolutionary. A real life-changing experience.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,744 posts)
11. I thought
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:33 PM
Aug 2025

the "'thoughts and prayers' only crowd," would refer to MAGAt Republicans. Haven't seen any of them around DU.

niyad

(134,035 posts)
13. Well, let's see. We had maybelline couchhumper explaining "thoughts
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:41 PM
Aug 2025

and prayers" here earlier. And there are such things as rhetorical questions, which are actually allowed here on DU.

Intractable

(2,390 posts)
12. Why do infinitely powerful beings need to be worshipped?
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:40 PM
Aug 2025

Is it an ego thing?

Seems to me, if one is truly powerful and wise, one doesn't need the reassurances of others.

niyad

(134,035 posts)
14. Never undeerstood that myself. .like a sign I saw on the back of a car here
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:44 PM
Aug 2025

in fundieville recently, "america bless god". Assuming a belief in an omnipotent deity, that sign struck me as extreme hubris.

Response to niyad (Original post)

Tommy Carcetti

(44,587 posts)
23. I'm shy to discuss my own beliefs, but...
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:32 AM
Aug 2025

…when I do pray, I pray not only for what has happened but also for the betterment of society, humanity and knowledge.

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