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Loudly

(2,436 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:24 PM Jan 2012

Wonder why Wikipedia is still showing Joe Paterno as deceased?

Not sure what their standards are for retractions of the deaths of notable persons.

I do remember seeing a legend in some articles that the topic in question is the subject of unfolding events, and that facts cited in the article are somewhat fluid.

But I have always considered Wikipedia authoritative about the fact that someone has died.

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Wonder why Wikipedia is still showing Joe Paterno as deceased? (Original Post) Loudly Jan 2012 OP
Wikipedia gets it right once in awhile. Brickbat Jan 2012 #1
He did die Broderick Jan 2012 #2
Um, Cuz he's dead? Ecumenist Jan 2012 #3
Because he is dead n/t tammywammy Jan 2012 #4
What is your point? Gold Metal Flake Jan 2012 #5
in an unrelated note ... Generalissimo Francisco Franco is STILL DEAD ... zbdent Jan 2012 #6
The news was impossible to miss... pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #13
LOL Broderick Jan 2012 #17
That is hilarious Aerows Jan 2012 #42
Paterno is dead. hifiguy Jan 2012 #7
Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords. Liberal Veteran Jan 2012 #12
No, he's not. He's just restin'. TlalocW Jan 2012 #8
Pining for the fjords? baldguy Jan 2012 #20
He shit the bed. Wiki is correct. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #9
He's pining for the fjords meegbear Jan 2012 #10
Crap. You beat me to it by seconds. Liberal Veteran Jan 2012 #15
He's dead,Jim. nt sufrommich Jan 2012 #11
he doesn't rise again until the third day Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #14
You win the internet today...go have a nice cool drink. AngryAmish Jan 2012 #16
Because he's still dead? liberal_biker Jan 2012 #18
Because he is still dead jberryhill Jan 2012 #19
Dee Kelly was a very nice man. I met him a few times. kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #23
To be honest, that question never crossed my mind arcane1 Jan 2012 #21
While you're there, what are they saying about Merle Haggard? pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #22
No date of death listed for Mr. Haggard. Loudly Jan 2012 #26
... pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #44
That would be an example of Wikipedia serving as a more reliable source. Loudly Jan 2012 #48
Because he's not just merely dead thelordofhell Jan 2012 #24
:) pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #27
! phylny Jan 2012 #47
Are you suggesting he is risen from the dead? Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #25
Just confused by reports on NYTimes and Huffpost and NPR that the story was false. Loudly Jan 2012 #28
Any links? arcane1 Jan 2012 #29
There were numerous premature reports on Saturday. Viking12 Jan 2012 #32
Drill down. Loudly Jan 2012 #34
Here's the scoop: pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #31
So, The Reports of My Death Are Only Slightly Exaggerated Loudly Jan 2012 #35
Pro-tip: Wikipedia articles normally have hyperlinks muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #40
Thanks Muriel. And thank you too DU. Especially for the laughs. Loudly Jan 2012 #43
Is it the third day yet? Lint Head Jan 2012 #30
Don't know. It's simply baffling (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #33
You can't explain that! pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #36
yeah! savalez Jan 2012 #41
What about Generalissimo Franco? grantcart Jan 2012 #37
Still dead. At least, according to one usually reliable source: pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #39
what about the veggie israeli dude? is he still alive? pansypoo53219 Jan 2012 #46
Not only has he ceased to pee... malthaussen Jan 2012 #38
Probably because he died. MineralMan Jan 2012 #45
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
23. Dee Kelly was a very nice man. I met him a few times.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jan 2012

Totally OT, I know.

He was very small, too. Not much taller or heavier than me (I am 5'4" and 125 lb).

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
28. Just confused by reports on NYTimes and Huffpost and NPR that the story was false.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jan 2012

People here seem to be fairly unanimous, though.

Nice to know Wikipedia can still be my "go to" for such info.

Viking12

(6,012 posts)
32. There were numerous premature reports on Saturday.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jan 2012

Many of those outlets retracted/corrected their original reports. Then Paterno actual did die a few hours later leading to confusion.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
31. Here's the scoop:
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jan 2012

Initial reports of his death were wrong--but later (within a day, I think) he actually DID die, for real.

You may have missed that later, accurate report of his death.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,210 posts)
40. Pro-tip: Wikipedia articles normally have hyperlinks
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:21 PM
Jan 2012

which document what they say. So, for instance, you see that it refers to CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/22/us/pennsylvania-obit-paterno/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 and ESPN: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7489238/joe-paterno-ex-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-dies-85-2-month-cancer-fight . It even tells you when this information was accessed - on the 22nd Jan. That way, you can see that Wikipedia is reporting a widely-known news story, without having to ask DU.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
37. What about Generalissimo Franco?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jan 2012



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General%C3%ADssimo_Francisco_Franco_is_still_dead

The death of Spanish dictator Francisco Franco during the first season of NBC's Saturday Night served as the source of the phrase. Franco lingered near death for weeks before dying. On slow news days, United States network television newscasters sometimes noted that Franco was still alive, or not yet dead. The imminent death of Franco was a headline story on the NBC news for a number of weeks prior to his death on November 20.

After Franco's death, Chevy Chase, reader of the news on NBC's Saturday Night's comedic news segment Weekend Update, announced the dictator's death and read a quotation from Richard Nixon: "General Franco was a loyal friend and ally of the United States. He earned worldwide respect for Spain through firmness and fairness";[2] as an ironic counterpoint to this, a picture was displayed behind Chase, showing Franco giving the fascist salute alongside Adolf Hitler.[3]

In subsequent weeks Chase developed the joke into a parody of the earlier news coverage of Franco's illness, treating his death as the top story. "This breaking news just in", Chase would announce - "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!"[4] Occasionally, Chase would change the wording slightly in order to keep the joke fresh, e.g. "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still valiantly holding on in his fight to remain dead."[5] The joke was sometimes combined with another running gag in which, rather than having a sign language interpreter visually presenting the news to aid the deaf, the show would provide assistance from Garrett Morris, "head of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing", whose "aid" involved cupping his hands around his mouth and shouting the news as Chase read it. The gag ran until early 1977.

The line was perceived as a slap at NBC Nightly News main anchor John Chancellor[citation needed], who due to his background as a foreign correspondent, felt the network should weigh its news more heavily toward world events, and had kept Franco's deathwatch at the top of the headlines.

pansypoo53219

(23,034 posts)
46. what about the veggie israeli dude? is he still alive?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 02:51 PM
Jan 2012

abe vigoda? i bet his death makes a splash.

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
38. Not only has he ceased to pee...
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jan 2012

... he wouldn't vroom if you put ten million volts through him.

-- Mal

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