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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWonder why Wikipedia is still showing Joe Paterno as deceased?
Not sure what their standards are for retractions of the deaths of notable persons.
I do remember seeing a legend in some articles that the topic in question is the subject of unfolding events, and that facts cited in the article are somewhat fluid.
But I have always considered Wikipedia authoritative about the fact that someone has died.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)He's dead.
Broderick
(4,578 posts)Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)Might be the reason..
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Gold Metal Flake
(13,805 posts)zbdent
(35,392 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)
Broderick
(4,578 posts)I miss that lineup.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I needed a good laugh
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)He passed away yesterday.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)TlalocW
(15,675 posts)Beautiful plumage, eh?
TlalocW
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Are there fjords in Pennsylvania?
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)meegbear
(25,438 posts)Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)liberal_biker
(192 posts)Just a thought...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Totally OT, I know.
He was very small, too. Not much taller or heavier than me (I am 5'4" and 125 lb).
arcane1
(38,613 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Loudly
(2,436 posts)Loudly
(2,436 posts)thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)He's really, most sincerely dead
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Loudly
(2,436 posts)People here seem to be fairly unanimous, though.
Nice to know Wikipedia can still be my "go to" for such info.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)The front page at Huffpo says "Joe Paterno dead at 85"
Viking12
(6,012 posts)Many of those outlets retracted/corrected their original reports. Then Paterno actual did die a few hours later leading to confusion.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)When I view the HuffPost article, it says UPDATED: family denies etc.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/joe-paterno-dead-ex-penn-state-football-coach_n_1221289.html?ref=mostpopular
And then I see this in NYTimes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/23/business/media/premature-reports-of-joe-paternos-death-roiled-web.html
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Initial reports of his death were wrong--but later (within a day, I think) he actually DID die, for real.
You may have missed that later, accurate report of his death.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,210 posts)which document what they say. So, for instance, you see that it refers to CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/22/us/pennsylvania-obit-paterno/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 and ESPN: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7489238/joe-paterno-ex-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-dies-85-2-month-cancer-fight . It even tells you when this information was accessed - on the 22nd Jan. That way, you can see that Wikipedia is reporting a widely-known news story, without having to ask DU.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)--Bill O'Reilly
savalez
(3,517 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General%C3%ADssimo_Francisco_Franco_is_still_dead
The death of Spanish dictator Francisco Franco during the first season of NBC's Saturday Night served as the source of the phrase. Franco lingered near death for weeks before dying. On slow news days, United States network television newscasters sometimes noted that Franco was still alive, or not yet dead. The imminent death of Franco was a headline story on the NBC news for a number of weeks prior to his death on November 20.
After Franco's death, Chevy Chase, reader of the news on NBC's Saturday Night's comedic news segment Weekend Update, announced the dictator's death and read a quotation from Richard Nixon: "General Franco was a loyal friend and ally of the United States. He earned worldwide respect for Spain through firmness and fairness";[2] as an ironic counterpoint to this, a picture was displayed behind Chase, showing Franco giving the fascist salute alongside Adolf Hitler.[3]
In subsequent weeks Chase developed the joke into a parody of the earlier news coverage of Franco's illness, treating his death as the top story. "This breaking news just in", Chase would announce - "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!"[4] Occasionally, Chase would change the wording slightly in order to keep the joke fresh, e.g. "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still valiantly holding on in his fight to remain dead."[5] The joke was sometimes combined with another running gag in which, rather than having a sign language interpreter visually presenting the news to aid the deaf, the show would provide assistance from Garrett Morris, "head of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing", whose "aid" involved cupping his hands around his mouth and shouting the news as Chase read it. The gag ran until early 1977.
The line was perceived as a slap at NBC Nightly News main anchor John Chancellor[citation needed], who due to his background as a foreign correspondent, felt the network should weigh its news more heavily toward world events, and had kept Franco's deathwatch at the top of the headlines.
pinboy3niner
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pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)abe vigoda? i bet his death makes a splash.
malthaussen
(18,567 posts)... he wouldn't vroom if you put ten million volts through him.
-- Mal