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usaf-vet

(7,789 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:26 PM Aug 2025

How many others feel the same?

My wife (77) and I (78) are at our breaking point. Yesterday I wrote: “As we all watch, seemingly helpless, as DJT tears down our country as we know it.” That post received 210 recommendations — proof that others feel this same weight.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220592451

However, today I realized something else that fuels my frustration: the endless stream of political emails. Every “urgent” request for a signature inevitably turns into a plea for another donation.

We already contribute more than $100 a month to causes and groups fighting for a better cause. Still, my inbox is buried under 18–25 of these requests every single day.

And here’s the real cost: we’ve missed messages from friends. We’ve missed healthcare notices we need to respond to. Our personal lifelines are getting lost in the noise of pleas that never stop.

I regret letting my email become overrun like this. What started as a genuine desire to stay engaged and support our country has turned into an overwhelming assault on daily life.

Does anyone else feel trapped in this same cycle?


We are not giving up. My grandfather did not give up in France in World War I. My Dad did not give up at his WW II jungle radio station on the Amazon River. Intercepting German U-Boat communications. I did not give up at my medical duty station, treating those in need during Vietnam. And I don't want others to give up in this serious assault from within on our Democracy. But I can't ignore the things that stretch our abilities to stay in the fight.
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How many others feel the same? (Original Post) usaf-vet Aug 2025 OP
Feel it, and your post could have been my own, word-for-word; especially vexing is this: Sogo Aug 2025 #1
I completely agree and have talked to several other Dems who feel the same way. The DNC spooky3 Aug 2025 #2
EXACTLY! usaf-vet Aug 2025 #13
They also need to fire all their strategists. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #41
Be careful....when suggesting the same in other posts I get attacked for stating my opinion that you did Pachamama Aug 2025 #78
I knew I may take some hits. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #79
If one cannot speak their opinions and concerns especially when the stakes are so high - then we are doomed to fail Pachamama Aug 2025 #80
Agreed. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #81
Hit unsubscribe Clouds Passing Aug 2025 #3
Yep that's what I've done. FirstLight Aug 2025 #6
Sometimes "unsubscribe" works, sometimes not. Give Peace A Chance Aug 2025 #32
That's what I do. llmart Aug 2025 #51
The concept of Act Blue to make it safer and easier to donate was good. In practice, not so much Attilatheblond Aug 2025 #4
In my past life (work life), I was responsible for keeping schools running safely. Especially prevent pornography...... usaf-vet Aug 2025 #39
Yep... regnaD kciN Aug 2025 #5
There's actually a pretty simple solution to this -- Mike Niendorff Aug 2025 #7
I have abandoned my old email. markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #8
Exactly. Mike Niendorff Aug 2025 #26
I have tried a similar structure example. It falls on deaf ears. Look what they did to David Hogg & LeadersWeDeserve.... usaf-vet Aug 2025 #40
What did they do to David Hogg & LeadersWeDeserve? MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #48
They banished him because he was disrupting their sandbox. He saw the urgency of getting rid of those who are doing ... usaf-vet Aug 2025 #61
I ended up abandoning an old email for that reason too. summer_in_TX Aug 2025 #43
"protect markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #44
There are those who deliberately suck us into conversations/debate that will never summer_in_TX Aug 2025 #63
I untrapped myself from the endless political emails. GoodRaisin Aug 2025 #9
That's good. I also block texts and unsubscribe (and/or block senders of) emails, but spooky3 Aug 2025 #69
All I can say is the blocks have been totally effective for me. My in box used to be GoodRaisin Aug 2025 #73
I get far more texts than emails. Sounds as if you haven't made spooky3 Aug 2025 #74
I think that's correct. GoodRaisin Aug 2025 #75
Act Blue has become a creeping cancer. I regret ever giving them my email. I still donate, but on my (our) terms. usaf-vet Aug 2025 #76
Agree. I'm going to try the oath website suggested in this thread. Nt spooky3 Aug 2025 #77
1.7% of funds raised through those fundraising emails and texts go to the Democratic party. iemanja Aug 2025 #10
do you have sources for this? MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #49
There was an article about it posted on DU a few weeks ago iemanja Aug 2025 #50
It's posted further in this thread MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #55
I'm sorry. Our local party uses ActBlue. With the exception of tips, the funds go directly to the local party. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #52
Yay capitalism! OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #11
Mothership Strategies maspaha Aug 2025 #12
The Mothership Vortex: An Investigation Into the Firm at the Heart of the Democratic Spam Machine Celerity Aug 2025 #14
And why I mark all mail from political sources as junk now dickthegrouch Aug 2025 #16
Have you considered making this an OP? ❤️ littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #25
It was, on August 8th Celerity Aug 2025 #59
👍Well done! I clearly can't keep up. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #65
This needs to be an OP MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #54
It was, on August 8th Celerity Aug 2025 #60
Don't donate to PACs that spring up overnight. We had that before Joe Biden resigned. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #56
Yes for sure. Evolve Dammit Aug 2025 #15
I didn't stop them during 20 or 24 but I have given up on this IbogaProject Aug 2025 #17
No one should give even a nickel to the as@holes who send unsolicited texts, emails and certainly not telephone calls. Wisky64 Aug 2025 #18
DuckDuckGo Email Protection Duck Addresses JoseBalow Aug 2025 #19
Save yourself-- in this case, the lifeline is Unsubscribe. Zap everything and start over. ... Hekate Aug 2025 #20
For some time, I have felt like we're boxing shadows Jarqui Aug 2025 #21
I get texts. Texts, texts, and more fucking texts. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2025 #22
You/We are not alone. madamesilverspurs Aug 2025 #23
I unsubscribed to every single one. They can beg all they want. littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #24
I've stopped donating. bamagal62 Aug 2025 #27
I do not . . . AverageOldGuy Aug 2025 #28
My favorite: "We have you down as a Republican. Y? N?" NBachers Aug 2025 #29
I text "Stop" about 5 times a day. 3Hotdogs Aug 2025 #30
Block each new unwanted email and send it to trash or junk. xuplate Aug 2025 #31
Especially annoying to me is receiving a "Thank you for your recent donation" Totally Tunsie Aug 2025 #33
It is endless. peacebuzzard Aug 2025 #34
Kick orangecrush Aug 2025 #35
I contributed to several House and Senate campaigns last year. patphil Aug 2025 #36
i refuse to give another dollar to a candidate moonshinegnomie Aug 2025 #37
I feel it, with every fiber of my being. CaptainTruth Aug 2025 #38
During the COVID-19 shutdown LogDog75 Aug 2025 #42
So open a new email account, only for healthcare and maybe bank/finance accounts, Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #45
Change your voter registration Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #46
Yes. I've been unsubscribing everyday, I'm so sick of the Raine Aug 2025 #47
I did unsubscribe from all those emails. I have a relative running for the Senate, so Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #53
Ditto! Linda ladeewolf Aug 2025 #57
I choose individual candidates to donate to Mblaze Aug 2025 #58
Exactly! I go through and unsubscribe to literally 100 such emails for a few days of respite before they start up again MLAA Aug 2025 #62
I've got my main email through Gmail, but k55f5r Aug 2025 #64
I sent this to the DCCC and cc'd to my Senators and Congressman.. homegirl Aug 2025 #66
Donate the way rich folks do... Qutzupalotl Aug 2025 #67
Thanks! nt spooky3 Aug 2025 #70
Ditto! evilhime Aug 2025 #68
I have multiple email accts for this very reason. Joinfortmill Aug 2025 #71
Most email applications provide a way to "filter" the messages as they come in Klondike Kat Aug 2025 #72
I miss things, too, as a result of email avalanche, sometimes to my detriment. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2025 #82

Sogo

(7,150 posts)
1. Feel it, and your post could have been my own, word-for-word; especially vexing is this:
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:31 PM
Aug 2025

"And here’s the real cost: we’ve missed messages from friends. We’ve missed healthcare notices we need to respond to. Our personal lifelines are getting lost in the noise of pleas that never stop."

spooky3

(38,521 posts)
2. I completely agree and have talked to several other Dems who feel the same way. The DNC
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:32 PM
Aug 2025

simply MUST devise a better, more focused and targeted way to fund-raise, because these constant haranguing messages and emails are turning off their strongest supporters.

yellow dahlia

(5,560 posts)
41. They also need to fire all their strategists.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:23 PM
Aug 2025

Also - Ken Martin is not the leader needed at the DNC, in this moment. IMHO

Pachamama

(17,554 posts)
78. Be careful....when suggesting the same in other posts I get attacked for stating my opinion that you did
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:51 PM
Aug 2025


yellow dahlia

(5,560 posts)
79. I knew I may take some hits.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:58 PM
Aug 2025

I am glad to see people are smarter than me saying the same thing, lately. Malcolm Nance had a pod cast discussion w/ Steve Schmidt, where they were critical of the consultants. Schmidt oughta know.

If you take hits on the topic, I'll back you up.

The stake are too high right now to hold back.



Pachamama

(17,554 posts)
80. If one cannot speak their opinions and concerns especially when the stakes are so high - then we are doomed to fail
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:15 PM
Aug 2025

I love this place and feel fortunate to have my DU family. I learn a lot, share a lot and have felt at home here with the many people who love democracy and want to support and help grow support for the Democratic Party. There are always going to be disagreements in families about topics at times. But the one rule that I think is important is respect and agreeing to disagree at times. Not attacking and insulting. Unfortunately every family has the family member or two that doesn’t respect and attacks. Cognitive dissonance is a sad thing to witness.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
6. Yep that's what I've done.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:47 PM
Aug 2025

Even Gavin newsom's office when they text me I send a stop message and stop receiving whatever I can because I am done.

I'm just past all of the bullshit... we're not even playing by normal rules anymore so fundraising is really out the window when it comes down to it. No election, no point.

32. Sometimes "unsubscribe" works, sometimes not.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:00 PM
Aug 2025

Move to spam/junk file.
Block them. pretty soon many of them go away.
Just stop giving them money.
When you donate they pass your info along to 'The List".
Then you start hearing from all of them.

Attilatheblond

(8,673 posts)
4. The concept of Act Blue to make it safer and easier to donate was good. In practice, not so much
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:37 PM
Aug 2025

When our contact info gets handed out or sold to anybody, it sets us all up to be hounded at best, and victimized by scammers in too many instances.

DNC needs to address the problem, find a better solution, or they will find people unwilling to donate and then get deluged with junk mail and texts.

On a practical note: UNSUBSCRIBE helps. I use Thunderbird as my email program as it allows for creation of many filters. Not sure if Outlook does that as I never liked it and won't use. When unwanted emails keep coming, I set up filters that will toss 'em in the trash before I even see them in my inbox. It is helpful against marketing emails and requests for donations from groups I do not wish to engage with.

Edited to add: I also set filters to tag certain email senders, color code some topics, and even "Copy To" for email from people I do want to stay in touch with. I have files for 'political pals', 'friends & family', Medical/Health Insurance/ Medicare, one for Social Security, and some files for specific vendors I do want to hear from. Those folders save stuff I want and allow me to find them.

In my old age, I find filters for emails are very helpful. And filters to toss the crap are REALLY helpful.

usaf-vet

(7,789 posts)
39. In my past life (work life), I was responsible for keeping schools running safely. Especially prevent pornography......
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:11 PM
Aug 2025

.... That was a job that was unwinnable. I could tighten the filter at eight in the morning, and by post-lunch, the website was up and running, and the kids in the building had found it.

Now, to Gmail, you say filters. I have so many filters written that I could sell each one for a buck; I could take a month-long fly fishing trip anywhere they were biting.

The only solution 30 years of supporting networks has taught me. It is a losing battle. Ironically, the ONLY SOLUTION is for the government to enter the fight and make it a priority. BUT that is when they want the First Amendment to protect them.

Don't block my (their) point of view from being SEEN and heard.

regnaD kciN

(27,594 posts)
5. Yep...
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:42 PM
Aug 2025

…one of the things that has fueled my irritation at the establishment Democratic Party is that I will get deluged with both e-mails and texts (including from politicians in districts far from mine) that begin with dire warnings about how Trump is trying to establish a dictatorship, and offer no possible routes to fighting it except to “chip in” $10 or more to their campaign. So that they can do what…send another strongly-worded letter?

Mike Niendorff

(3,646 posts)
7. There's actually a pretty simple solution to this --
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:48 PM
Aug 2025

Create a centralized "Dems" website/app -- it could even be done in partnership with ActBlue.

Dem campaigns register there, and agree to centralize their fundraising there.

Small-dollar donors, go there.

Big-dollar donors, go there.

If all the major campaigns agree to it, then this deluge of "sky is falling! we're losing! donate now!" crap can end. It can come down to a centralized page listing the critical battlegrounds where funds are needed (top-10 style?), maybe an "act locally" page (again, top-10 style), a way to set up weekly/monthly/annual/one-off donations, and a way to set up either a list of recipients or a %-based auto-split.

It would expose a lot of phony/scam appeals, because they would be screened out. And I am very much of the opinion that many -- parhaps most -- of these relentless "help us! we're weak!" texts are NOT coming from legit Democratic Party sources.

Anyway, this seems to me to be a pretty simple way to correct this problem. And if it's obvious to me, it's gotta be obvious to people much more in the loop than I am.

So, anybody listening?


MDN

markodochartaigh

(5,390 posts)
8. I have abandoned my old email.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:52 PM
Aug 2025

Even unsubscribing only slowed the tidal wave of emails, many of them from states I have never been to. A few years back another site I used to spend a lot of time on would run a request to donate to several candidates simultaneously. Even though I got banned from that site years ago they still send me requests for money almost daily. I have no idea if they or some of those candidates "shared" my information. Until the last few months I only received a couple of emails a day from random candidates or causes.
But I started getting 75-100 emails a day. Unsubscribing helped some, but only for a few days.
So for family, banking, etc. I just abandoned that old email. Protonmail has free email.
Now, however, I have started to get phone calls and texts. I'm not sure how they got my phone number. Here in Florida everyone gets a couple of spam calls a day. Maybe that is a countrywide thing now. But at least one or two a day are identifiable as Democratic politicians, groups, or causes.
I never answer for unknown callers, and never empty my messages, so it isn't a major issue yet, but I wonder if my phone number will have to be changed like my email.

And, if I was a Republican who wanted to trash the Democratic small donor fundraising system what I would do is spread emails and phone numbers far and wide so that people would stop responding.
Ironically, I have very little to give now that I'm retired.

Mike Niendorff

(3,646 posts)
26. Exactly.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:15 PM
Aug 2025
And, if I was a Republican who wanted to trash the Democratic small donor fundraising system what I would do is spread emails and phone numbers far and wide so that people would stop responding.


Or they could just set up fake, spam-based campaigns and pocket the money. Which I am sure is being done as we speak.


MDN

usaf-vet

(7,789 posts)
40. I have tried a similar structure example. It falls on deaf ears. Look what they did to David Hogg & LeadersWeDeserve....
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:17 PM
Aug 2025

..... THIS IS OUR SAND BOX. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME!

usaf-vet

(7,789 posts)
61. They banished him because he was disrupting their sandbox. He saw the urgency of getting rid of those who are doing ...
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:08 AM
Aug 2025

.... just two things. OCCUPING a SEAT and using it to enrich themselves. Those who will not leave when their time comes because it's the best-paying, cushy job a person can have. HE RIGHTFULLY wanted to find new, younger challengers to occupy those seats.

So, depending on your point of view, he was pushed out, he got tired of Or he quit to continue his work from the outside of their sandbox, so he at least doesn't start his day by having to .

He is still finding and supporting challengers to the do-nothings. We still help with his activity by sending him a check every month.

A check with no names, addresses, or other IDing info. Just the necessary stuff to make it work. IS he the answer? Who knows, but he's doing something by kicking sand in the faces of those doing nothing.

At 78, you know when it is time to hire younger help.

summer_in_TX

(4,114 posts)
43. I ended up abandoning an old email for that reason too.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:02 PM
Aug 2025

I set up two new emails. My personal one and my more political one. It has helped a lot. Before that, I couldn't find my friends emails buried in the junk.

The latter email address is the one I give to retailers too, not just for donations and subscriptions. Much of the time, all I can do with that account is mark them all read, after a quick scan of subject heads. Sometimes not even that.

In the run up to the 2024 election I made some mistakes keeping the two email addresses separate and now the level of commercial/political stuff is starting to creep up. I'm going through and unsubscribing.

It's tedious but once I get it done, it's freeing. I used to have trouble making myself unsubscribe from emails from those I admire. But I've been following wise advice lately: protect your time so you have it to invest in other areas.

markodochartaigh

(5,390 posts)
44. "protect
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:11 PM
Aug 2025

your time so you have it to invest in other areas."


This is so important. I'm coming to the end much more rapidly than I ever expected and I have a lot of things that I need to get done before I pass. But it is very important advice for young people too.

summer_in_TX

(4,114 posts)
63. There are those who deliberately suck us into conversations/debate that will never
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:47 AM
Aug 2025

bring about a change of mind, just to waste our time. Keeping us occupied with those sorts of things distract us from the important work of organizing, and also keep us so stirred up that our mental and physical health suffer.

GoodRaisin

(10,853 posts)
9. I untrapped myself from the endless political emails.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 04:54 PM
Aug 2025

If you go to the top of the email and click on the name of the sender, you will get on option to block the sender. That will send them to your trash from now on when that sender tries sending you another political request for money.

What I found out after doing this a few times, a lot of those different emails actually have the same sender. So the number of emails started dropping rapidly as they were all automatically going to the trash folder as I kept blocking new senders until I had just about all of them nailed. There actually were only relatively few senders I needed to block to clear them all out of my in box.

Soon, I could see my email in box much more clearly because most of the political emails were all gone to the trash folder.

Every now and then you can click on your trash folder and clear it out with a couple of clicks using a “select all” command.

I use iPhones and iPads but I expect that Android phones must have similar capabilities.

Hope this helps.

spooky3

(38,521 posts)
69. That's good. I also block texts and unsubscribe (and/or block senders of) emails, but
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:44 AM
Aug 2025

I get solicitations from every candidate for dog catcher across the country. They do not use the same sending address, unfortunately, so the blocks/unsubscribes are of limited use. I asked ActBlue not to share my info, but they replied that they could do nothing, legally. That's why I think it is time for the Dem leadership to recognize this problem and how it is hurting themselves, and do something about it.

GoodRaisin

(10,853 posts)
73. All I can say is the blocks have been totally effective for me. My in box used to be
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 02:11 PM
Aug 2025

drowned in political emails and blocking soon stopped the problem for me. I guess there could be a difference is the effectiveness of blocking in different systems/software, but it works great on my Apple devices. Now I only see an occasional political email from a new sender.

I tried using unsubscribe and it didn’t work. When people try to use “unsubscribe” they are relying on someone else to take action. Using block is taking the situation in one’s own hands.

spooky3

(38,521 posts)
74. I get far more texts than emails. Sounds as if you haven't made
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 02:13 PM
Aug 2025

It onto the spam text lists yet—hope your luck holds out.

GoodRaisin

(10,853 posts)
75. I think that's correct.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 02:25 PM
Aug 2025

I don’t get much spam on texts. The little I get I just wipe away.

iemanja

(57,721 posts)
10. 1.7% of funds raised through those fundraising emails and texts go to the Democratic party.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:00 PM
Aug 2025

The rest go to the parasitic fundraising companies. I will never give again until they sort that out.

MadameButterfly

(3,964 posts)
49. do you have sources for this?
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:54 AM
Aug 2025

I avoid the sensation captions and wonder about all the organizations I haven't heard of, but I tend to trust emails from known politicians. The idea that 98% of these donations are wasted seems extreme. And if true is a major scam we can't afford. Nor can we be ignoring real Democratic causes that need money.

iemanja

(57,721 posts)
50. There was an article about it posted on DU a few weeks ago
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:56 AM
Aug 2025

I don't have it handy now. If you post about it in GD, someone may be able to point to it.

LeftInTX

(34,094 posts)
52. I'm sorry. Our local party uses ActBlue. With the exception of tips, the funds go directly to the local party.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:08 AM
Aug 2025

Our treasurer gives a report every month. My donation, matches my ActBlue contribution.

I know where my money is going.

Also, the state posts contributions on Texas Ethics Commission site. I pay via ActBlue and my payments are on the candidates' financial statements.

________________

I also read that somewhere. Who wrote it and what was their motivation? What are they trying to accomplish? Think about it!

maspaha

(733 posts)
12. Mothership Strategies
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:06 PM
Aug 2025

Have y’all heard of this organization? Nicole Sandler discussed them on her podcast. Their specialty is targeting older folks for small donations and most of the “donation” goes to MS overhead. Very republican in nature, kinda grifty.

Celerity

(54,130 posts)
14. The Mothership Vortex: An Investigation Into the Firm at the Heart of the Democratic Spam Machine
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:15 PM
Aug 2025


How a single consulting firm extracted $282 million from a network of spam PACs while delivering just $11 million to actual campaigns.

https://data4democracy.substack.com/p/the-mothership-vortex-an-investigation



The digital deluge is a familiar annoyance for anyone on a Democratic fundraising list. It's a relentless cacophony of bizarre texts and emails, each one more urgent than the last, promising that your immediate $15 donation is the only thing standing between democracy and the abyss.

The main rationale offered for this fundraising frenzy is that it's a necessary evil—that the tactics, while unpleasant, are brutally effective at raising the money needed to win. But an analysis of the official FEC filings tells a very different story. The fundraising model is not a brutally effective tool for the party; it is a financial vortex that consumes the vast majority of every dollar it raises.

We all have that one obscure skill we’ve inadvertently maxed out. Mine happens to be navigating the labyrinth of campaign finance data. So, after documenting the spam tactics in a previous article, I told myself I’d just take a quick look to see who was behind them and where the money was going.

That "quick look" immediately pulled me in. The illusion of a sprawling grassroots movement, with its dozens of different PAC names, quickly gave way to a much simpler and more alarming reality. It only required pulling on a single thread—tracing who a few of the most aggressive PACs were paying—to watch their entire manufactured world unravel. What emerged was not a diverse network of activists, but a concentrated ecosystem built to serve the firm at its center: Mothership Strategies.

From Party Insiders to Extraction Engineers................

snip

dickthegrouch

(4,458 posts)
16. And why I mark all mail from political sources as junk now
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:32 PM
Aug 2025

They have completely lost me as any form of donor. For good.

MadameButterfly

(3,964 posts)
54. This needs to be an OP
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:15 AM
Aug 2025

How do we compete with Billionaires if their money goes directly to their cause and ours us used up by fundraisers?
This is making us powerless and the DNC is complicit
I am furious. THis is an emergency.
What can we do about it?

LeftInTX

(34,094 posts)
56. Don't donate to PACs that spring up overnight. We had that before Joe Biden resigned.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:25 AM
Aug 2025

Polls about Kamala, that led to a fundraiser to a PAC that I never heard of before.

Donate directly to candidates or if you are familiar with a PAC...(For instance Planned Parenthood Action), donate to them.

Here is what Mothership Strategies says about that report:

Setting the Record Straight: How Mothership Strategies Powers Progressive Change

https://medium.com/@mothershipstrategies/setting-the-record-straight-how-mothership-strategies-powers-progressive-change-136dc803fbdc

https://mothershipstrategies.com/

PACs spends money on:

Training programs for first-time candidates
Field organizers who knock on thousands of doors
Digital persuasion campaigns that reach millions of voters
Independent expenditures supporting Democratic candidates
Voter registration and turnout operations in critical swing districts


Field organizers need to eat. They're the bread and butter of many campaigns. PACS also work for numerous candidates, not just one. It's called a "Coordinated Campaign".

Don't contribute if you don't feel comfortable. But I feel this type of stuff is purposely put out there to hurt Democrats!

IbogaProject

(5,792 posts)
17. I didn't stop them during 20 or 24 but I have given up on this
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:33 PM
Aug 2025

While I will still vote and make donations, their email marketing swirl is dead to me. I reply stop to each and every one. The only one I am still not replying "Stop" to is ActBlue, but I may have to do that too. The msg have gotten too prolific and I am tired of this. The party needs small donors but they talk past and over us and still serve the big money donors. We need to step away from big money donors and run a people's party. This isn't rocket science, our whole revolution was done via pamphleteering. The issues are simple and the majority want what we want. Universal health care, single payer, and a progressive tax system that has Bezo, Zuckerberg, Musk and the old inherited money crowd paying a much larger share of our national costs. These tax cuts for the filthy rich harm us all by slowing the economy down. And this patch work health system leads to ER crowding which puts us all at risk.

Wisky64

(9 posts)
18. No one should give even a nickel to the as@holes who send unsolicited texts, emails and certainly not telephone calls.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:35 PM
Aug 2025

These commercialized fund raisers, even on the Democratic side are quite scammy. The fund raiser gets a big cut and then sub contracts the actual work to himself at very generous rates. The National Committee then takes a cut and if there is anything left it goes to the candidate you were trying to support. The candidates often receive less than 10% of your contribution. Mass communication fund raising is a scam whether for charities or political candidates. Give directly to the charity or the candidate. NEVER donate ANYTHING to a mass communication fundraiser.

JoseBalow

(9,417 posts)
19. DuckDuckGo Email Protection Duck Addresses
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:45 PM
Aug 2025
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Hekate

(100,133 posts)
20. Save yourself-- in this case, the lifeline is Unsubscribe. Zap everything and start over. ...
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:47 PM
Aug 2025

Don’t worry — the ones you want to help will still find you (unfortunately, so will the ones you don’t want, but that’s another story)

Thank you for a lifetime of service, which I see runs in the family.

Be well

Jarqui

(10,896 posts)
21. For some time, I have felt like we're boxing shadows
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:02 PM
Aug 2025

Can't seem to land a meaningful punch

50 Shades Of Blue

(11,358 posts)
22. I get texts. Texts, texts, and more fucking texts.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:03 PM
Aug 2025

I just deleted 8 more of them. Typing "Stop" in response doesn't do a damn thing. Delete/reporting as junk doesn't stop them either. I finally set my default text tone to "none" so I would not be continually interrupted by the deluge.

madamesilverspurs

(16,495 posts)
23. You/We are not alone.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:12 PM
Aug 2025

The ones that really aggravate are the emails with surveys embedded; you answer the questions, and the last one is about how much you can donate, no option to participate in the "survey" without donating. Nope, not gonna play.

I already feel bad that I can't normally donate, my monthly budget just doesn't stretch. On the rare occasion that I can contribute, I send that donation to our local Democratic party office; helps a little to pay the rent and the phone bill, buy postage stamps, and just keep the door open. Back when I could volunteer in that office, it was always invigorating when someone would walk in to ask questions about issues or candidates (especially when they'd leave with a yard sign or two). Keep our doors open, I say.


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littlemissmartypants

(32,807 posts)
24. I unsubscribed to every single one. They can beg all they want.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:12 PM
Aug 2025

I expect returns on my investments. Until then, unsubscribe is my recommendation.

We are not bottomless pits and each of us deserves not to be treated like one.

❤️

AverageOldGuy

(3,694 posts)
28. I do not . . .
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:41 PM
Aug 2025

. . . even bother to own and read email, texts, or snail mail from candidates or parties. Just delete or toss in the trash

3Hotdogs

(15,270 posts)
30. I text "Stop" about 5 times a day.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:46 PM
Aug 2025

For some reason, I get very few emails that ask for $.

xuplate

(196 posts)
31. Block each new unwanted email and send it to trash or junk.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:54 PM
Aug 2025

Let it sit there a couple of days before deleting so your email security takes note of it. It’s not readily apparent how to block it—at least on my iPad—but it it very simple once someone shows you how. I must have blocked hundreds of these once I learned how to do it—did one just this morning—some politician I’ve never heard of.

Totally Tunsie

(11,761 posts)
33. Especially annoying to me is receiving a "Thank you for your recent donation"
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:01 PM
Aug 2025

text, e-mail, or snail mail that continues with "and now can you help us out with another...". Geez, I haven't yet received the credit card bill for the first donation, and their hand is out again. It never stops.

There are certain charities that I do like to regularly support such as Special Olympics or Habitat for Humanity, but they need to let me take a breath between requests. If I were to give as often as they ask, I would, in fact, become one of the needy that they supposedly help.

My daily texts/e-mails come in from candidates I've never heard of in states I've never visited. I suspect ActBlue has been receiving good payment for the lists of donors upon which I appear. There seems to be a direct connection.

Lastly, dear Colin Allred: You seem like a top-notch guy who presents well as a candidate. I happily supported you when you ran against Cancun Cruz last year even though I don't live in TX, but it was not to be. I get it. You're now running against John Cornyn in 2026, but anyone viewing my text log would be convinced you and I are embroiled in a hot and crazy affair based on how often you're in touch. Just stop it!

peacebuzzard

(5,856 posts)
34. It is endless.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:11 PM
Aug 2025

Every few days when I am stuck on a commute to work or home I go through the emails and either unsubscribe or lately I have been marking it Junk and delete.
I am stuck on these commutes but in a situation where I have the time to do so. Usually in a crowded area or waiting room or lounge where it is difficult to concentrate on much else so I try to clean up my emails. But it is endless. And a great waste of time.
I am going to try to figure out what one poster stated regarding a centralized website.

patphil

(8,949 posts)
36. I contributed to several House and Senate campaigns last year.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:24 PM
Aug 2025

Since then I get 3-4 mail solicitations and about 6-7 e-mail solicitations each day for all sorts of stuff.
I refuse to contribute to any campaign or party before July of 2026.
And, I only give to deserving causes when I have the money, which means a few times a year. The only one I give to each month is my regional food bank.
I know how important money is in elections, but I refuse to just throw money out there without any expectation of how it will actually be used.
When the actual campaigs start, I'll give what I can.

moonshinegnomie

(3,991 posts)
37. i refuse to give another dollar to a candidate
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:25 PM
Aug 2025

until i see real action im done. and if i do ever donate again im giving them a google voice phone number and a spam catcher email address. Im tired of the daily asks for me to "chip in" from across the country.

its one of teh reasons m not a fan of act blue

CaptainTruth

(8,161 posts)
38. I feel it, with every fiber of my being.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:34 PM
Aug 2025

However, I don't feel trapped, I feel ready to fight like hell, & I feel like that fight hasn't even yet begun.

LogDog75

(1,240 posts)
42. During the COVID-19 shutdown
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 10:33 PM
Aug 2025

I gave my stimulus check to three organizations.
One was to a food bank.
One was to Meals on Wheels.
One was to a kitchen that provide nutritional meals to those at risk of malnutrition due to critical illness such as HIV, cancer, congestive heart failure, type 2 diabetes, and chronic kidney disease.

I keep getting mail from them asking me to donate. I don't mind donating but I don't want them to keep asking me for more money. I'd rather donate cash anonymously than keep getting their mail.

Jack Valentino

(4,853 posts)
45. So open a new email account, only for healthcare and maybe bank/finance accounts,
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:15 PM
Aug 2025

and don't give it to anyone else...

and don't donate from it, ever...



Let those donation request pile up in your previous account,
and request unsubscription from them

 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
46. Change your voter registration
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:40 PM
Aug 2025

to "no party preference."

I haven't gotten a political begging e-mail since I changed mine 21 years ago.

Raine

(31,154 posts)
47. Yes. I've been unsubscribing everyday, I'm so sick of the
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 02:38 AM
Aug 2025

constant dunning for money. It takes me forever to go thru my mail ... I'm done!

Scrivener7

(59,262 posts)
53. I did unsubscribe from all those emails. I have a relative running for the Senate, so
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:14 AM
Aug 2025

all my money this time around will be going to him. It has been a relief not to get those emails.

Choose the specific ones you want to donate to and unsubscribe to all the rest.

Mblaze

(972 posts)
58. I choose individual candidates to donate to
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:02 AM
Aug 2025

I unsubscribe to any of the group appeals. When asked to supply a reason, I write "inundation".

MLAA

(19,709 posts)
62. Exactly! I go through and unsubscribe to literally 100 such emails for a few days of respite before they start up again
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:39 AM
Aug 2025

and multiply over night. It’s like I’ve lost use of my email.

k55f5r

(515 posts)
64. I've got my main email through Gmail, but
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:50 AM
Aug 2025

when I sign onto any site that's not my business or an interaction with close personal friends , I use a yahoo.mail account which I purge every week.

homegirl

(1,957 posts)
66. I sent this to the DCCC and cc'd to my Senators and Congressman..
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:26 AM
Aug 2025

DCCC
430 South Capitol Street SE
Washington, D.C. 20003

ATT:Chairwoman Suzane DelBene

July 17, 2025

Dear Ms. DelBene,

For many years I have been receiving petitions, questionnaires and requests for funding from the DCCC, I assume this is based on my lifelong voter participation, from the age of 21, when I voted for Adlai Stevenson for President.

I have been a life long Democrat and have served on my local, Sonoma County CA Democratic Central Committee. My experience during that service on the committee was that expensive paper mailings DO NOT WORK! Even I, as a political participant do not open the political mailings, be it from the DCCC, local, state or -most obnoxious- out of state politicians. I have even purchased and utilized a “RETURN TO SENDER” stamp, unfortunately the USPS returns 95% of these mailings to me!

My assessment of the situation of the Democratic party-from the top down is lack of an aggressive program. Advertising should be highly visible in public venues.

Billboards,
Signs on trucks in communities, shopping centers,
Advertising to captive audiences in movie theaters, sports stadiums,
Small give away items: handy inscribed letter openers, key chains, nail clippers, emery boards, pens, email address books and similar small, inexpensive handy items, even kitchen pot holders and dispensers for BBQ sauces!

Door to door is obviously the very best out reach and the most difficult to staff, so let’s move on to:

Programs designed and executed to enroll new young voters should be created, funded and implemented. My plan would:

Offer college credit to High School Seniors who participate in a credit earning Civics course, which would transfer the credits to a local college or junior college, or a college to which the student has been accepted.
And a voter registration opportunity tied to the Civics course. A Civics instructor from the local college or junior college would be contracted to run this program.


So, there you have it from a lifelong Democrat and proud American who is terrified at the path our country and my party is stumbling on. Get tough, playing nice is not going to defeat the Republican party that has surrendered to fascist, demented Donald Trump!

A favor, if possible, can you remove me from the mailing list? Thank you…



Sincerely,

Qutzupalotl

(15,782 posts)
67. Donate the way rich folks do...
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:38 AM
Aug 2025

Go to oath.vote and search for the candidate you want to support, or look for races close to flipping. They don't spam you and don't share your info.

Thanks to former DUer brooklynite for the tip. No more ActBlue, et al for me.

evilhime

(372 posts)
68. Ditto!
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:40 AM
Aug 2025

I have started unsubscribing to many of them (though others take their [places rapidly) - And while I realize that this is a national problem, candidates for whom I can’t vote are not getting support from me at least not yet . .. And TBH, unless a political candidate/group has proven they are really fighting the good fight through actions and words, they aren’t getting my money. And I hate the click bait emails that want answers to a survey only to make the submission contingent on donation . . . they may or may not be legitimate surveys (though lately I tend to doubt them) but they are almost as exhausting as the debacle in DC.

Klondike Kat

(936 posts)
72. Most email applications provide a way to "filter" the messages as they come in
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 01:31 PM
Aug 2025

You can create folders for the ones you consider important and then create a filter that will automatically file the incoming message in the appropriate folder. Some applications' filtering mechanisms work better than others, so your mileage may vary.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,194 posts)
82. I miss things, too, as a result of email avalanche, sometimes to my detriment.
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 11:16 AM
Aug 2025

I FINALLY had the phone call I had been hoping for, and driving myself to ultimate frustration trying to get it done, because....just try to get through to the fed. income tax people on the phone. AND, that is the only form of communication they will recognize for most vital topics, and I desperately needed this call to get my dental insurance renewed. (Thank you, Canada!!!) That was partly caused by emails being buried bu the stream of beseechers looking for my money, but I can only do so much.

I thought I'd reached the point where retirement would be at least safe, if not comfortable, but FAR from lavish. We are under water, on a monthly average, of about $600. Peppered throughout has been (hopefully) one-time larger expenses, and the combination sure is enough to batter one's financial fortress.

I suppose there are things that we could give up, but my wife and I have become rather accustomed to living indoors and eating every day, so no complaints allowed there. I do have perspective.

But, beyond that, what do we forgo? House insurance? Seems foolhardy. Wi-fi package, so doing without Internet, telephone andor television? Seems kind of bleak. Our car? Being without one would be seriously inconvenient, and by no means free - still cab fare for the necessary trips and $20 doesn't get you very far, let alone back again.

Even groceries are scaled back. Not long ago, a stranger in the meat dept. of the supermarket we frequent held up a package of meat for me to see. A LOVELY-looking T-bone with a really big chunk of meat on the filet side. Easily enough to feed 2 people that aren't gluttons, but...$57??? A typical pack of chicken breast is now $25-30?

So, I'm afraid that the upshot of all this is that worthy causes are going begging. If I ever start using "thoughts and prayers", please bash me in the head with something solid. Or perhaps just a resounding slap - we are getting more and more fragile.

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