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In It to Win It

(12,808 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:41 PM Aug 2025

BREAKING: Appeals court rejects Trump's authority to impose sweeping tariffs under IEEPA.

By a 7-4 vote, the full Federal Circuit has *affirmed* a lower-court ruling holding that many of President Trump’s tariffs exceed his statutory authority.

The ruling won’t go into effect until October 14, though—which gives the Trump administration plenty of time to seek intervention from #SCOTUS:

Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2025-08-29T21:48:28.799Z

BREAKING: Appeals court rejects Trump’s authority to impose sweeping tariffs under IEEPA. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney.bsky.social) 2025-08-29T21:31:55.391Z

The ruling, however, doesn’t take effect immediately. The court withheld the mandate for its decision until *Oct. 14*

Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney.bsky.social) 2025-08-29T21:42:06.173Z

BREAKING: Federal appeals court rejects Trump's sweeping tariff moves. 7-4. Doc: storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein.bsky.social) 2025-08-29T21:34:06.396Z
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BREAKING: Appeals court rejects Trump's authority to impose sweeping tariffs under IEEPA. (Original Post) In It to Win It Aug 2025 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Aug 2025 #1
Wow this is a BFD newdeal2 Aug 2025 #2
No US tariffs on imports from other countries, but they still can keep them on US goods? MichMan Aug 2025 #3
No, just Trump can't put them on, has to be Congress. Makes sense Blues Heron Aug 2025 #4
That will take them awhile MichMan Aug 2025 #9
Chris Hayes is covering this right now live! senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #5
K&R spanone Aug 2025 #6
From the Guardian malaise Aug 2025 #7
Thanks senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #8
Tariff Payment Paper Trail Is Critical for Building Refund Case LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #10
Can we start shouting, "Lock Him Up!" now? Ping Tung Aug 2025 #11

MichMan

(17,389 posts)
9. That will take them awhile
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:25 PM
Aug 2025
The United States alone has more than 12,000 possible tariff categories among 200 trading partners, according to the financial services firm UBS.


In the meantime, India has a 38% tariff on US tractors and 100% on US made cars

senseandsensibility

(25,497 posts)
5. Chris Hayes is covering this right now live!
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:17 PM
Aug 2025

Great show. Neal Katyal, who argued the case, is being interviewed.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,929 posts)
10. Tariff Payment Paper Trail Is Critical for Building Refund Case
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:47 PM
Aug 2025

trump and company promised the courts that they would refund any tariffs if they lose as a condition of the appeal of the first judgment. Lawyers are advising people and businesses on what information may be needed to get a refund of tariffs



https://news.bloomberglaw.com/in-house-counsel/tariff-payment-paper-trail-is-critical-for-building-refund-case

Trade lawyers are telling clients to keep thorough records of the tariffs they’re paying—starting immediately if they haven’t already—ahead of a court decision that could result in billions in refunds pouring back to companies......

Whether companies get a refund, how much gets refunded, and the process for getting money back to companies all hinge on the outcome of the litigation.

“A lot is riding on this case, both for the future as well as for the tariffs that have been collected already,” said Ginger Faulk, a partner at Eversheds Sutherland who leads the firm’s US and global sanctions practices.....

If the court declares the tariffs were entirely illegal, it’s almost certain that levies already paid would be eligible for a refund, said Michael Lowell, chair of Reed Smith’s global regulatory enforcement group.

The decision could also be more nuanced than a simple yes or no, Gamalski said. For example, the court could point to particular stretches of time when the legal status of the tariffs changed. It could rule that the national emergency justification for using IEEPA to impose tariffs was valid for some countries, but not others.

Any of those outcomes could require companies to more finely parse out what they paid and when, she added.

Meanwhile, lawyers said, it’s also not clear if refund payments would be issued automatically, or if companies would need to calculate what they’re owed and file for their refunds themselves.

“You should have all of your data ready because you might be going for everything; you might be having to isolate some of that,” Gamalski said. “And if you are starting at square zero of pulling everything together, it’s going to be just that much harder.

Collecting the refund of the tariffs will be interesting and fun to watch
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