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It's eugenics: the CDC you knew is over (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2025 OP
Kick. bronxiteforever Aug 2025 #1
Trump wants Americans to die. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #2
Minor correction - tRump wants NON-WEALTHY Americans to die. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2025 #3
Yes but with no public health, rich people will die too. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #14
RFK Jr is hooked on eugenics, as are Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #5
I have said this since day one, the plan is to kill the old, sick, infirm. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #15
Yup. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #33
I have said this since day one, the plan is to kill the old, sick, infirm. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #16
Magapublican voters JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #28
They refer to us as "non player characters" DBoon Aug 2025 #17
We serve no purpose if we do not make the wealthy richer. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #21
To them it is all like a game. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #32
They are psychopaths. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #34
Oh, and sadists too. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #35
Yes sadism is typical with psychopaths. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #36
Yup, he saw how well it worked for COVID IzzaNuDay Aug 2025 #19
Trump is projecting again. He likes idiots who think they know more than the trained, experienced professionals. surfered Aug 2025 #4
Well, sure. madamesilverspurs Aug 2025 #6
Centers for Disease IronLionZion Aug 2025 #7
The fewer Social Security recipients, the more money Trump can steal. LudwigPastorius Aug 2025 #8
yep pfitz59 Aug 2025 #9
RFK Jr. is the most dangerous in the Trump admin? Be one hellofa debate! Grins Aug 2025 #10
Junior is living proof that good genes aren't enough. Pinback Aug 2025 #11
He and his wife's Hollywood friends need to stop protecting him newdeal2 Aug 2025 #12
His wife is persona non grata in Hollywood BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #18
If the MAGA crowd responds the same as they did Delmette2.0 Aug 2025 #13
Please, DUers, read "War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race," Heidi Aug 2025 #20
Great writer: Edwin R. Black Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #22
Thank *you*. I think this deserves its own thread, Heidi Aug 2025 #24
P.S. Heidi Aug 2025 #25
Still kicking, my Friend. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #26
Again, elections have consequences gulliver Aug 2025 #23
It's not eugenics, it's arrogance and incompetence and Dunning-Kreuger. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #27
Yes. And eugenics. hedda_foil Aug 2025 #29
Multiple truths can exist in parallel. (nt) Heidi Aug 2025 #30
Disagree. applegrove Aug 2025 #31
Well, the way it looks to me is that vaccines ... ananda Aug 2025 #37

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
14. Yes but with no public health, rich people will die too.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 06:15 AM
Aug 2025

Yes the rich will get the best available care as always.

But even the rich get polio, whooping cough, etc if vaccines are no longer produced.
The drug companies may or may not make small batches just for the wealthy,

yellow dahlia

(6,488 posts)
5. RFK Jr is hooked on eugenics, as are Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:49 PM
Aug 2025

The new head of CDC, Jim O'Neill, is an associate of Thiel.

We can't make this shit up.

https://fortune.com/2025/08/29/who-is-jim-oneill-acting-head-cdc-peter-thiel-robert-kennedy/

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
15. I have said this since day one, the plan is to kill the old, sick, infirm.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 06:17 AM
Aug 2025

The rich think everyone but themselves are useless eaters.

Billionaires refuse to pay for their care.
All the money belongs to the rich, nothing for the people.

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
16. I have said this since day one, the plan is to kill the old, sick, infirm.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 06:17 AM
Aug 2025

The rich think everyone but themselves are useless eaters.

Billionaires refuse to pay for their care.
All the money belongs to the rich, nothing for the people.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
28. Magapublican voters
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 12:55 PM
Aug 2025

Think we are Useless Feeders and that's why they voted for Krasnov and vd.

DBoon

(25,148 posts)
17. They refer to us as "non player characters"
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:12 AM
Aug 2025

We are not quite human and completely disposable

yellow dahlia

(6,488 posts)
32. To them it is all like a game.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 02:20 PM
Aug 2025

They are emotionally undeveloped and socially maladjusted...and dangerous.

IzzaNuDay

(1,342 posts)
19. Yup, he saw how well it worked for COVID
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:17 AM
Aug 2025

and US collective memory of his negligence and resulting hundreds of thousands of deaths didn’t even register in the 2024 election.

surfered

(14,301 posts)
4. Trump is projecting again. He likes idiots who think they know more than the trained, experienced professionals.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:43 PM
Aug 2025

Grins

(9,525 posts)
10. RFK Jr. is the most dangerous in the Trump admin? Be one hellofa debate!
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:13 PM
Aug 2025

Debate coaches would fear that resolution.

Pinback

(13,658 posts)
11. Junior is living proof that good genes aren't enough.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:17 PM
Aug 2025

He is such a pathetic, warped funhouse mirror distortion of his father that he is a powerful argument against eugenics.

newdeal2

(5,614 posts)
12. He and his wife's Hollywood friends need to stop protecting him
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:23 PM
Aug 2025

They should be speaking out loudly against Bobby’s dangerous actions. It’s no longer just his wacky opinions but policy.

Delmette2.0

(4,506 posts)
13. If the MAGA crowd responds the same as they did
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:30 PM
Aug 2025

During COVID, they may get sick first and spread it faster. They won't wear masks or follow any other preventive behavior.
I still have two boxes of masks. My son is careful also.

Heidi

(58,846 posts)
20. Please, DUers, read "War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race,"
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:20 AM
Aug 2025

by Edwin Black, American historian and author, syndicated columnist, and investigative journalist.

https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781568582580/mode/1up

Kid Berwyn

(25,109 posts)
22. Great writer: Edwin R. Black
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:30 AM
Aug 2025
Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection

Where the world-famous NAZI Steve Bannon got his schtick.



Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection

by Edwin Black
Sunday, November 9, 2003

Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a so-called Master Race.

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little-known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the pseudoscience aimed at "improving" the human race. In its extreme, racist form, this meant wiping away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in 27 states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the 20th century's first decades, California's eugenicists included potent but little-known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles Goethe, as well as members of the California state Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

CONTINUED...

Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20110623233349/https://waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/index.html

ORIGINAL NOW BROKEN LINK: http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/index.html

Alternate working link: https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1525/9780520961944-008/html?lang=en&srsltid=AfmBOoo81GHe_5Bj7jNNlCEA3E6NGF2UGozrwUKOZbK3ieipk5geHTE3

PS: Thank you, Heidi! This is an example of the kind of information that is fast-disappearing from the Internet -- Truth.

Heidi

(58,846 posts)
24. Thank *you*. I think this deserves its own thread,
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 12:12 PM
Aug 2025

like “books that made us truly human.” I don’t have time tonight as there are many for me. Maybe tomorrow—but if you want to start the discussion, I’ll happily contribute tomorrow. This, I think, is one way we can lift our community up.

gulliver

(14,075 posts)
23. Again, elections have consequences
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:32 AM
Aug 2025

The CDC guy who just resigned perfectly illustrates the issue. You can back (and be backed by) all the science in the world. Then you have to pepper your resignation letter with political, stupid, pandering pseudo-saintly sugar that no democratically backed organization of any identity asked you to use. (And, they probably didn't ask you to use it in the first place because the people who are actually affected by all this sweetie pie stuff think you are snooty jerks and look down on them.)

And so, here we go. I hope we've learned a lesson. You can undermine science, if you speak about science from the standpoint of someone who is irritating and unlikable and considers themselves a self-elected saint. And that's bad for everyone. And you get silly crap like RFK Jr. as your reward.

The sad part is, the people who so badly sell good ideas aren't the ones who suffer.

ananda

(35,518 posts)
37. Well, the way it looks to me is that vaccines ...
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 03:01 PM
Aug 2025

will always be available to the rich.

What Trump and co. want is complete privatization
of medicine across the board, with no quality or
price controls...

except for the rich.

Feel free to talk me down.

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