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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI know this is just The Mirror, but it seems there is a lot of hopeful speculation.
After not being seen at all on Thursday or Friday, Trump has no scheduled events planned for the weekend, leading many online to believe that something drastic has happened to his health.
'Where is Trump?', 'It happened' and 'Trump is dead' have all trended on X over the past several hours, with the President doing nothing to quash these rumors. This comes as the White House were reportedly 'fuming' over the response to Trump's recent health issues.
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-dead-trends-online-1360777
Yes, terrible tragedies happen, Vance told USA Today. But I feel very confident the president of the United States is in good shape, is going to serve out the remainder of his term and do great things for the American people.
And if, God forbid, theres a terrible tragedy, I cant think of better on-the-job training than what Ive gotten over the last 200 days, Vance added.
Trump is 79 and was the oldest president to be sworn in at the time of his inauguration in January. His health has been in the spotlight after the White House announced last month that he had undergone medical testing for swelling in his legs and bruising on his hands.
JustAnotherGen
(37,679 posts)Can be broken. He's not liked. He has a punch worthy personality. He's not prepared.
We can break the travel influencers soul.
karynnj
(60,821 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:35 AM - Edit history (1)
I think the SC is with Trump because the majority, all Federalist picks, have the same goals. Ie it is not Trump as much as right wing goals.
Congress is different. Many might be afraid to challenge Trump for fear that he could cause them to lose a primary. The question might be whether Vance inherits that ability.
On one hand, he is certainly not charismatic. One warning might be that he might be able to use the base's grief from losing Trump to push them for support. (There are so many differences - ie LBJ's many years in Congressional leadership, skill, and the genuine shock of losing a young leader to assignation - but LBJ was able to get many things like Civil rights legislation partly in honor of JFK)
JustAnotherGen
(37,679 posts)Doesn't have the Krasnov glitter or ability to trigger rage monkeys on the right to rage. No one in Congress is afraid of him.
I also think the right (especially white women who believe white supremacy is their friend) will vote for a white male married to a non-white female.
LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,679 posts)Disease that penicillin won't take out. I heard couches can get their own version of vd . . . Bed bugs. Even the Orkin man can't get it out.
Dulcinea
(9,744 posts)Who knows what he's caught from all those couches?
Buns_of_Fire
(19,039 posts)millions of people are tentatively planning parties, buying champagne, and wondering what to call the new national holiday...
Dr. T
(529 posts)When it happens, I want to send an unmistakable public message to the MAGAts in my neighborhood.
electric_blue68
(26,147 posts)🧨🧨🎆🎇🎆
👍😄😄
NJCher
(42,591 posts)Wood grain contact paper for my street sign, which will be in the shape of a coffin. ⚰️
Ive saved enough orange cat fur to have some sticking out the side of the closed coffin.
It will be a nice effectlike we slammed the coffin on him.
Buh-bye.

A little extra orange fur, in case you need it, and some
Bill the Cat cat barf, for that added extra-special touch.
niyad
(129,911 posts)littlemissmartypants
(31,974 posts)electric_blue68
(26,147 posts)Henry203
(878 posts)malaise
(293,440 posts)Rec
CanonRay
(15,989 posts)Dia de los Muertos.
electric_blue68
(26,147 posts)littlemissmartypants
(31,974 posts)And what OJT has Shady Vance even had? He must be doing it online while he's on vay cay. He's a poser, lightweight.
Imagine Magic Mike for President! Wouldn't he be next in line?
What a lineup!
I'm so addled by all of this crap that I don't even remember how it all works anymore!!
I know that I'm ready to party and grave dance plus I will not feel guilty about it for a millisecond of a millisecond. Maybe even less.
Roy Rolling
(7,452 posts)Hes so full of shit his skin cant contain it anymore. Hie legs are swelling and his hands are bruising from the inside out.
Though I would expect hands to be brown with this diagnosis, maybe tiny size hands has something to do with it.
eShirl
(20,101 posts)Coventina
(29,270 posts)C Moon
(13,508 posts)and force Vance to wear it.
Hugin
(37,526 posts)What a legacy.
I can hear the MAGAts gathered down at the literal Cracker Barrel now, But, but
Hes got good jeans.
tavernier
(14,299 posts)Like from Men in Black.
BidenRocks
(2,857 posts)Buy a toe or a liver.
Some magat will take his shriveled heart.
The Final Grift!
IcyPeas
(24,967 posts)maybe he is rehearsing another assassination attemp. They said last time he disappeared for days was just before his alleged assassination attempt. I don't know if that's true or not.
Bluesky right now ...
— Cheshire Cat ááá¢, (@autismsupsoc.bsky.social) 2025-08-30T05:11:07.660Z
pdxflyboy
(911 posts)n/t.
johnnyfins
(3,501 posts)On the job training, and it just flies by. I dont know about you, but that doesnt instill a lot of confidence. How about a VP like Kamala Harris, who would have been ready to take over on DAY ONE of the Biden presidency if needed. I cant believe JD just admitted to the world how un-serious he is.
No, I take that back. I can believe it.
gordianot
(15,748 posts)LaRaven
(227 posts)gordianot
(15,748 posts)More live appearances of both Trump and Vance is also worth considering. I doubt JD can stand him more than anyone else hoping Trump expires. The whole bunch lies so much the more they tout Trump health the better possible outcome. If he does show in public the trousers should be extra baggy and news photographers will be interested in tiny hands.
DeeDeeNY
(3,908 posts)onenote
(46,009 posts)For what its worth.
Tree Lady
(13,044 posts)Her skin was paper thin with dark bruises and she lived to 96, ate sweets and rich food all her life, use to have stomach issues. And Trump has money for the best doctors and treatments that my mom didn't have. He will probably live at least 5 more years. I bet he is having a medical procedure and just doesn't want to talk about it because he likes to think he is a tough guy.
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LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)He had a heart cath last year and they put him blood thinners.
LuvLoogie
(8,565 posts)MissouriDem47
(401 posts)His kids will only show up for the reading of the will.
Henry203
(878 posts)To rewrite the will.
LuvLoogie
(8,565 posts)mucholderthandirt
(1,762 posts)Either Trump has done all the damage needed to bring America down, and he's going to be dead soon...
Or, he just needed some medication adjustment so he can go on another few months.
MAGA idiots won't complain about anything he does, he can completely make America not be America anymore. And he's pretty damned close right now. Then, Vance and Project 2025 can go on to rebuild the country into the fully fascist, "Christian" nation they want, where the super rich have all the control and they don't have to fake it by being nice to the unwashed masses.
No social safety network, no worker laws, no environmental laws, no nothing to help the average person. The oligarchy will have it all and we will end up dead. They don't need us anymore, they have robots and "AI" to run all the dirty jobs now.
Where any of them think they'll be living in a polluted, infected world, I can't say. Maybe they'll be launching a real Elysium any day now.
At any rate, Trump will be dead, and that will have to console us while we watch our lives be totally destroyed.
mwmisses4289
(3,391 posts)homes in countries that are doing a better job keeping them out of politics, countries that still have clean air, water and such.
TurboDem
(355 posts)in order to make a good showing at the funeral.
Lovie777
(22,001 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,519 posts)Bidens health!
area51
(12,577 posts)What training? The a-hole's been on vacation 8 times in 7 months!
littlemissmartypants
(31,974 posts)doc03
(38,869 posts)on DU three years ago.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,634 posts)I went through this with my late husband. All the signs point to that.
Swelling of the hands, feet, face, EVERYWHERE.
Kidney failure accompanies this as they begin to shut down. Liver failure also.
Exhaustion and difficulty breathing.
Excessive thirst.
Fluctuations in blood pressure, usually on the low side.
Agitation.
Bruising of the skin as blood flow decreases.
Trump is a dead man walking and it is a matter of time before Karma and her brother, Grim, inform TACO Don his numbered has been called. Time to pay the piper so to speak.
By the way! His soul is not going to go to Heaven!
Trueblue Texan
(4,230 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,634 posts)It's black and empty.
Ocelot II
(129,433 posts)The demands and stresses of the presidency would make a big difference for most people, but Trump doesn't seem to work very hard. His "work" seems to consist mostly of golf, rage-posting late at night, and enshittifying the decor and architecture of the White House. He could go on for quite awhile with whatever chronic conditions he might have.
LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)My grandmother had it and they told my mom, "She could live for decades with this". Eventually my grandmother died three years after breaking her hip. She refused to participate in rehab after breaking her hip. Her goal was to lay in bed, get pneumonia and die. She did this for three years and it took her three years to die.
I think her final diagnosis may have been internal gangrene. Probably from her hip site. She was very stubborn.
It's an extremely common diagnosis.
Trueblue Texan
(4,230 posts)Do you remember the "procedure" TSF underwent recently? What if that was placement of a fistula for dialysis? Maybe that's why he has days of not appearing. Home dialysis takes a lot longer than when it's done in a facility. They can't have him traipsing off to a facility...the whole world would know. And you and I know that heart disease and kidney disease go hand in hand. Clearly his kidneys aren't working, as evidenced by the cankles. My guess is dialysis, which also puts you on a super strict diet--which he will likely not comply with. All this would explain the bruising on his hands--blood draws, etc. If that's what's going on, things are more dire for TSF than anyone would have us know. It may be the reason for Vance appearing in public so much more recently.
LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)My husband is on them. No big deal. Bruising is ugly. Hubby is not on dialysis. He's on blood thinners because he got a stent a year ago. Blood thinners are often prescribed to prevent clogged arteries.
If you want to know who is really sick and is still alive, look at Dick Cheney!
He had his first heart attack when was 37!!!
By the time he was elected VP, he already had three heart attacks. And had already had a cardiac bypass.
He had another heart attack two weeks after the presidential election in 2000!
He was constantly having heart procedures done when he was VP.
He even had an internal defibrillator placed while he was VP.
He also was diagnosed with deep vein thrombosis and was put on blood thinners.
In 2007, he was diagnosed with arterial fibrillation
He had a heart transplant in 2012
He's still alive.
With all of these ailments, Dick Cheney was the shadow president and plotted the war on Iraq.
All of his health problems did not prevent him from being "Darth Vador"
I highly doubt that Trump has worse health than Dick Cheney.
Narcissistic people just don't die when they are up to trouble. Trump is not normal. He's evil, he's too focused on destroying America and trying to win Nobel prizes and take over the world to get sick and die. Physical illness is made worse by things such as stress and anxiety, (these are things that stress adrenal glands and hormones) but Trump doesn't get stressed because he has no empathy. He has no feelings. He doesn't have the emotions that normal person has that would normally strain most people physically. He's a dictator.
Since Dick Cheney accomplished alot of evil with much worse conditions than Trump, I just don't think Trump has a life threatening condition. I really don't think he's on dialysis. I would be surprised. But I highly doubt it.
Dulcinea
(9,744 posts)I'm not a doctor or a medical professional, but my uncle died from CHF, & the Fascist Felon shows a lot of the signs. He's also overweight, elderly, & has a poor diet. That will hasten his demise.
Trueblue Texan
(4,230 posts)...who are we to argue with God's will?
malaise
(293,440 posts)Along with my already chilled Blue Nun😂
Takket
(23,509 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,634 posts)Punches the clock from 11am to 4pm.
Sits at the head of the Board Table pretending to be working.
Takes weekends off.
Being POTUS is a 24/7 job. He's not wired for that. TACO Don is the type of man who thrills at the title, prestige of the title, without putting in the time required.
He's nothing more than a MOB BOSS who demands accolades and loyal tribute.
LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)LeftInTX
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Ocelot II
(129,433 posts)This supports my theory that he's technically alive but has had a sudden and noticeable decline in his already marginal ability to be coherent enough to speak in public. They can let him park his fat orange ass in a golf cart, get up and waddle over to a ball a caddy has dropped for his convenience, claim he won, and then go home for some pudding, as long as he doesn't talk to anybody.
BannonsLiver
(20,303 posts)I think the aim is to make it look like hes playing golf, which would be very easy. Oh sure, hes putting on his outfit and making a scene of going to the club but is he actually golfing? Im skeptical.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Marthe48
(22,779 posts)How long does it take for Polonium-210 to work? Or Novichok?
karynnj
(60,821 posts)Why would he want to get rid of him.
Marthe48
(22,779 posts)Maybe traitor felon has become too wackadoodle to be useful? Maybe putin didn't like the demands traitor made to end the war on Ukraine? Or the condemnation of India's increased imports of russian oil?
electric_blue68
(26,147 posts)😑😬
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