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Tommy Carcetti

(44,587 posts)
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:09 AM Aug 2025

Questions about sudden absences of a leader are a hallmark of authoritarian leadership regimes.

For example, in 2015, right after the murder of opposition figure Boris Nemtsov on the streets of Moscow (later conveniently blamed on Chechen extremists), Vladimir Putin disappeared from public view for 10 days. Not a single word from him or sight of him.

Then, just as he had gone, he suddenly reappeared, without any explanation.

Fiona Hill wrote about it at the time:



What If Putin Disappeared for Real?
The Russian president’s absence points to Russia’s looming succession crisis.

By FIONA HILL March 16, 2015

Well, he’s ba-ack, but Russia’s brief sojourn without Vladimir Putin in public view won’t be forgotten soon. Even as Putin rather airily dismissed the issue of his long public absence on Monday, saying life “would be boring without gossip,” the frenzied rumor-mongering over the Ten Days That Shook the Twitter World raised a lot of serious issues. Most of all, Putin’s temporary disappearance illustrated the fragility of the hyper-personalized political system that the president of this still-heavily-nuclear-armed nation has created around himself. And, just perhaps, it illustrated the danger to the rest of us.

We still don’t know the reason for Putin’s AWOL act. But the rumors that surrounded it are a sure sign of where Russian politics are headed: toward a succession crisis.

During the week and half that Putin was not seen in public—the mystery ended on Monday when he posed for the cameras with the president of Kyrgyzstan in St. Petersburg—stories choked the Internet about the usually ubiquitous Russian leader, who was first elected president 15 years ago this very month. The initial prosaic explanation that Putin might be sick and recuperating was dismissed not only by social media, but also at various times by his own press spokesman. The vacuum of information was filled with a host of rumors ranging from the whimsical and sentimental (abducted by aliens or attending the birth of his lovechild in Switzerland) to the disturbingly plausible: a coup was underway, the brutal murder of opposition leader Boris Nemtsov on a bridge below the Kremlin on February 27 was the product of vicious infighting inside the Kremlin’s walls. It was a provocation (as Putin himself declared when he got news of the assassination) and a power play to set off a change in presidential power.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/03/vladimir-putin-disappearance-russia-succession-116107/

Of course, that all was 10 years ago. Putin's still very much around, still very much in power, and continues to fuck this world sideways in everything he does.

I think it's part of a narcissistic trait in these types of people. They might like to step back for a while, as if to say, "What would life be like if I weren't around?", only to then re-emerge, basically saying, "Just kidding! You're still stuck with me!"
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Questions about sudden absences of a leader are a hallmark of authoritarian leadership regimes. (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Aug 2025 OP
Maybe he's been listening to some Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #1
Love that song Walleye Aug 2025 #3
The disappearance could just be a manipulation where he wants to see how people react and use that Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #2
That's what I think, he's just messing with us Walleye Aug 2025 #4
As Eminem once sang, Tommy Carcetti Aug 2025 #5
+1 dalton99a Aug 2025 #11
Or he could just be golfing Kaleva Aug 2025 #14
I have two Traildogbob Aug 2025 #6
It's possible Trump is doing the same thing, but unlike Putin, Ocelot II Aug 2025 #7
We have no idea what/where Putin is. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #8
He's golfing Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #9
Kick dalton99a Aug 2025 #10
when all things come from 'dear leader' - it's disorienting - perhaps a little frightening ... - -(nt)- stopdiggin Aug 2025 #12
I think he's sick iemanja Aug 2025 #13
Who Killed Stalin? struggle4progress Aug 2025 #15
It's *us* who are feeding the narcissism GenThePerservering Aug 2025 #16
Acutely observed by Hill: "the fragility of the hyper-personalized political system" Hekate Aug 2025 #17

Scrivener7

(60,076 posts)
2. The disappearance could just be a manipulation where he wants to see how people react and use that
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:19 AM
Aug 2025

as a loyalty test. Also, for those who do care about him, he probably enjoys seeing their distress. It's a form of power.

Walleye

(45,484 posts)
4. That's what I think, he's just messing with us
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:21 AM
Aug 2025

I’m sure everything he does is to please Putin. Including putting troops in the street I’m sure he thinks that’ll make him look real tough to the Russian leader.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,587 posts)
5. As Eminem once sang,
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:23 AM
Aug 2025

Guess who's back, back again?
Shady's back, tell a friend
Guess who's back, guess who's back
Guess who's back, guess who's back
Guess who's back, guess who's back
Guess who's back

*********

Now, this looks like a job for me
So, everybody, just follow me
'Cause we need a little controversy
'Cause it feels so empty without me
I said this looks like a job for me
So, everybody, just follow me
'Cause we need a little controversy
'Cause it feels so empty without me

Traildogbob

(13,163 posts)
6. I have two
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:25 AM
Aug 2025

Great bottle of wine on the ready.
Gotta have my heel sliced open on the 15th. I will be totally off my feet for two months, but God damnit, I bought knee pads and will dance 🕺 like a maniac on those knees when he is in full rotting mode with MAGA’ts crawling out of every one of his orifices, and the GQP heads are Slithering out of his dried up dead asshole.
🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷

Ocelot II

(131,242 posts)
7. It's possible Trump is doing the same thing, but unlike Putin,
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:31 AM
Aug 2025

Trump is the sort of narcissist who has to be in the spotlight all the time. Putin is calculating, controlled, and able to play a long game, while Trump is none of those things. It's hard to imagine him deciding to "disappear" for a few days just to see what kinds of rumors arise; he's too impatient and too desperate for attention. And he just suffered a major kick in the pants from an appellate court that declared his beautiful tariffs illegal, which must have enraged him. AFAIK only one single post on his fake Twitter has appeared, ranting about how ending the tariffs will destroy America (concluding with his usual hilariously irrelevant "Thank you for your attention to this matter" ), but I don't think he wrote it himself, because although it's stupid and sprinkled with random capitalizations, it's relatively coherent and everything is spelled correctly. It was probably produced by one of his loyal stooges, maybe Leung or Miller. Usually when things go sideways for him he stays up all night blasting out all-caps rants, but although this was very sideways, not another word. Allegedly he's golfing today, but is he really? I don't want to get my hopes up, but maybe they're doing a Weekend at Bernie's routine, dragging his corpse around a golf course.

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
8. We have no idea what/where Putin is.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:33 AM
Aug 2025

We know he has been in poor health for some time.
We know he uses body doubles.

stopdiggin

(15,639 posts)
12. when all things come from 'dear leader' - it's disorienting - perhaps a little frightening ... - -(nt)-
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 01:06 PM
Aug 2025

iemanja

(57,780 posts)
13. I think he's sick
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 01:10 PM
Aug 2025

and has too fragile of an ego to announce it.
If he were golfing, we'd know.

struggle4progress

(126,683 posts)
15. Who Killed Stalin?
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 01:57 PM
Aug 2025


Was Josef Stalin, one of the Worlds most powerful leaders killed? Or was the Communist party afraid of losing their power? Could the heart attack be a cover up? This documentary goes through secret KGB-files in search of truth.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0875528/

GenThePerservering

(3,717 posts)
16. It's *us* who are feeding the narcissism
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 03:38 PM
Aug 2025

So used to our daily dose of Trump that we pine when he's not around. I see it on this forum with this speculation on his health, whereabouts, etc.

What would happen if no one paid any attention?

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